Students should not be treated differently

 I am a student of University College Falmouth and I’ve recently been reading Packet letters concerning students.

No offence intended, but the letters I’ve read are very petty. They condemn all students based on very small numbers. Where people have suggested that students are the problem with Falmouth, I disagree and believe that the letter writers just have problem students living next to them; a problem I believe they are dealing with badly. Students are not some other type of being, believe it or not. It might appear that we can run on Pot Noodles and crisps, but I assure you, we are human adults too; and as human adults, I believe you should treat us as such.

For instance, issues with bins, noise, aggressive behaviour etc are issues that people should be dealing with by speaking to the correct local authority; not writing gossipy letters into a local newspaper. Also to all those who seem to be angry at students for whatever reasons, I urge them to ask themselves one question before they write letters, or get wound up over nothing. What would I do if they were not students? There are two benefits to this question. Firstly, that is what people should do anyway since we are all adults. Secondly, if people would behave differently towards non-students in the same situations, it may help them decide what is worth getting worked up over.

Mitchell Slater, Woodlane, Falmouth

Comments(16)

Zella says...
4:07pm Wed 18 Jul 12

There is good and bad in all walks of life. Take the rubbish problems on the streets of Falmouth, Helston and Porthleven for example, this has been highlighted in the 'Packet' on several occasions. Unprotected rubbish put out for collection, this is not purely a problem caused by students, in a good majority of cases it is caused by householders other than students. I believe everyone should be classed as individuals and as such treated accordingly. I believe that one should not generalize.

Poldark says...
11:59am Thu 19 Jul 12

When the students pay council tax, for the collection of rubbish and the use of services that the students use then we will be on a level playing field.

It's not a case either of students living next door, it a case of fitting in with th local community also behaving approprately, and respecting them, not the continuous noise and parties
that some of the residents of Falmouth have to put up with..

ucsweb says...
12:01pm Thu 19 Jul 12

In the majority of cases I am sure that is is not the students that are the problem.
The problem is the number of students. Our councils should have organised an infrastructure to support and house this large increase in the local population. As far as I am aware no research was done on the impact the university would have on the area. I am sorry if the students feel they are being picked on, a lot more should have been done to prepare for their arrival.
It is a shame that both locals and students are now paying the price for the failings of our councils.

GrahamHarris says...
2:26pm Thu 19 Jul 12

The writer has a point - 'what would we do if they weren't students?'. If the problems were caused by 'bank staff' or 'gardeners' or 'pensioners' then would we moan at them?

The thing is though, unfortunately for the writer, every house that has booming music coming out of it at 3am is occupied by students.

The houses that generally have rubbish all over the front garden or the recycling boxes out 4 or 5 days too early, are occupied by students.

Pairs of trainers that have been thrown on to telephone wires so that they dangle there for weeks on end, I'm reasonably sure would have been thrown there by students!

So, yes, I'm sorry if the normal hard working people of Falmouth seem to be picking on students, but if you'd like to live by the rules the rest of us have to live by, then we'd all get along just fine.

steve eva says...
5:52pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Mitchell do not dispair it is not only Students who are treated different its also myself and Cllr Varney.
There are those who continue to moan about the Council Tax even though it is a Goverment Policy which has absolutely nothing to do with Cornwall Council but they blame us.
We all know there is an element of all society that lets down the rest whether Student,Youth or otherwise. No of this matters because they just like to moan and blame the easy targets.
A wise man once said before he died that there is one thing worse than being talked about and thats not being talked about. That was my father and the words are always comfort during the continued moaning from those who know no better.

Zella says...
8:01pm Thu 19 Jul 12

Sometimes I think some people forget that behind the title 'Councillor' there is just a normal person trying to do a job. I myself am guilty of complaining about the council in general, for instance, giving a contract to a bus company that I and others consider are not running a satisfactory service on a certain route. However, I do not actually lay the blame on individual councillors, as I realize they are working within the system and financial restraints. Therefore I additionally contact the bus company to try to rectify things. I personally would try to rectify any problems with students by going through the proper channels as one would do with any problem neighbour. Limiting the number of students in local properties is a separate issue and is not going to solve any current noise/nuisance/rubbi
sh issues that are currently on going. Trying to blame certain individual Cornwall Councillors in my opinion is not going to help. I personally would contact envoiromental health and my local town councillors to start with.

steve eva says...
12:04am Fri 20 Jul 12

If only others followed your actions what a better place it would be

Zella says...
7:45am Fri 20 Jul 12

I have had anti social neighbours in the past (not students) one was in private rented and one was a council rented tenant. I sorted out both issues without picking fault with my local councillors or blaming the council.

themaid says...
8:15am Fri 20 Jul 12

This letter really made me think. I do suffer from the noise of students but have to admit that the so called working people living next door are worse than the students in reality out all night chatting and drinking with friends to the detriment of their neighbours. So it is not only students and the fact is it is not their fault they do not pay rates rather the law's fault which is why I believe there should be a law where the owners of these houses are made to pay business rates.

As for Councillors Eva and Varney I will say this I may not always agree with you but it is your outspoken attitude that I love. These may not be the right words but you do fight for what you believe in and as it as been said you are ordinary people trying to do a job for the benefit of others and lets not forget we cannot defame these people who have been fairly elected unless we are prepared to stand for council ourselves, which seems on the whole to be a thankless task. So on reflection to all Councillors but in particularly these two especially Councillor Eva who does comment under his own name on this website I applaud you and apologise.

ucsweb says...
9:22am Fri 20 Jul 12

I have never replied directly to any comments before. But, I have a quote for Councillor Eva.
"People should not be afraid of their governments, goverments should be afraid of their people." Thomas Jefferson (Paraphrased in V for Vendetta).

falmouthborn says...
2:14pm Fri 20 Jul 12

The problem is the idea that you can put a university student population into two small towns without it having a major impact. We know who is to blame for that, Candy"how shall I vote tony" Atherton.
But there seems to be an attitude within Cornwall County Council that Falmouth and Penryn have to take it no matter what the effect on local people. At the end of the day students are hear for a few years in most cases, the local population is here for life but they seemed to be ignored.
You would expect our County Councilors to fight for Falmouth, but they don't. Enoch Powell said all political careers end in failure. Come the next County Council elections, we shall see that come true. I wouldn't put my pension on any of the incumbent County Councilors being voted in again and that includes you Mr.Mayor

Lanty Slee says...
7:42pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Vested interests are at the heart of this matter, I feel.

What controls are there on the conversion of "family homes" into HMO's?

What limitations on "student ghettos" springing up in both Falmouth and Penryn?

The elusive Article 4 Direction would surely help this matter.

But, alas, in the words of Sophocles:

'Money is the worst currency that ever grew among mankind. This sacks cities, this drives men from their homes, this teaches and corrupts the worthiest minds to turn base deeds.'

Zella says...
8:12pm Fri 20 Jul 12

Money is not everyones top priority, it certainly isn't mine. Probably why I havn't got any.

ucsweb says...
8:49am Sat 21 Jul 12

I am not so sure that vested interests are driving this. Most landlords are absentee, few if any councillors are landlords, few if any local businesses profit from it.
I could be wrong, but I feel this is down to a few people trying to get a name for themselves for bringing the university here. Of course it has back-fired and they are too proud or arrogant to admit they were so wrong.
All I here is anecdotal evidence of how much money Falmouth and Penryn are making from the university and students. Lets see these locally owned businesses who are benefitting come forward so that we can recognise and celebrate something positive from this.
If they exist!

DCI Jen says...
8:58pm Sat 21 Jul 12

First buses must be gaining money surely, running all those buses to the campus. They must get the money from somewhere.

victoriameldrew says...
3:51pm Mon 23 Jul 12

steve eva wrote:
Mitchell do not dispair it is not only Students who are treated different its also myself and Cllr Varney.
There are those who continue to moan about the Council Tax even though it is a Goverment Policy which has absolutely nothing to do with Cornwall Council but they blame us.
We all know there is an element of all society that lets down the rest whether Student,Youth or otherwise. No of this matters because they just like to moan and blame the easy targets.
A wise man once said before he died that there is one thing worse than being talked about and thats not being talked about. That was my father and the words are always comfort during the continued moaning from those who know no better.
oh boo hoo

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