Is it time to let dangerous dog breeds die out? (From Falmouth Packet)

here we go again, lets all blame the staffie , yes i agree these dogs are a danger in the wrong hands,as is any strong dog. i have 2 that are the most gentle dogs i have ever had, its time that licenses were brought in, i agree, blame the deed not the breed,

All you who voted Yes, should be ashamed of yourselfs. If your not to lazy type in your browser and type in: Pittbull Heroes Hall of Fame. It's not the dog that should be banned. If anything irresponsible owners are to blame. Also irrational government officials should take the blame for not doing thier research before coming to a conclusion to ban a breed.

Readers, please note all claims in the above article are the author's personal fantasies and are not in any way supported by actual facts. All praise the internet, where even Skipper can be considered a journalist.

i just wish people would do a little reseach before they put staffies and labs in the same artical....because Labs Bite more poeple then any other Breed besides Chihuahuas, yes they bite and are very very agressive....but we never hear about the attacks that happen when they are involved....ive personally been bite by 2 labs in the last year...but not one DANGEROUS BREED has bite me and im surrounded by them everyday,,,all i have to say in shame on you for voting yes...and I'd like t see someone try to take my staffies....period! have a great day and do some research...the media lies...why do you think Obamas in office.

Where in the heck did this authir come up with so much DISinformation???! It is a shame this person chooses to villify a breed with no true knowlege of the situation. This artiocle is WRONg. It is inflammatory. It errs. There is no true reason for breed specific legislation other than human IGNORANCE. I suggest this publication do a bit of research BEFORE publishing such trash. To take a poll based upon these lies is horrific. Shaades of fascism...Shame on all of you!! Pity the poor beloved dogs who stand to be slaughtered because of this insufferanle human bias and plain stubborn ignorance!! Sad.

when are people gonna realize BLAME THE OWNERS NOT THE DOGS!!!!!! idiots!!

Every time i read a story like this it makes my blood boil. To start with, the author is very naive. Any breed of dog has the capability to bite and be vicious if it is not raised by a responsible owner. I am proud to have owned both staffies and pit bulls, both of which were brought up alongside young children.

All those leaving comments here would do well to note that this is an OPINION COLUMN listed under the LETTERS page of a newspaper's website.

It's not an "article," it's opinion.

The Skipper is not writing here as a journalist.

And as for my two penneth on this whole dangerous dog debacle - I turn to old Winston for his age old wisdom:

"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it but in the end, there it is."

Look to the facts on dog attacks. The weight of evidence cannot be ignored.

Whoever wrote this article is clueless and uneducated about canine behavior and dogs in general. First, they are not “designed” to be aggressive or fight they are TAUGHT by barbaric humans by depriving them of basic necessities such as food, water and shelter. They go through horrific training methods and use bait dogs who are defenseless as practice on.
Staffordshire Terriers were the number one family dog in the USA for many years until human greed and selfishness began to exploit thier loyalty, intelligence and strength.
The bite of a Staffordshire Terrier is NOT more damaging than other breed and is a ridiculous statement. Bite pressures of different breeds:
Pitbull pressure bite - 235 lbs
German Shepherd bite - 238-850 lbs
Bulldog bite - 305 lbs
Rottweiler bite force - 328-350 lbs
Wolf bite force - 406-1800 lbs
tosa inu - 556 lbs
Turkish Kangal - -350-714 lbs
dutch shepherd 235 lbs
karelian bear dog 245 lbs
Belgian malinois 135 lbs

The bully breeds are born just as loving and gentle as any other breed, humans are to blame for the change we witness in fighting dogs. Ignorance promotes more ignorance and this is a perfect example.

But they sure can be twisted and manipulated to support inherent ignorance of prejudiced people. The FACTS prove many other breeds are FAR more likely to attack. And TRUE history shows these dogs were worshipped for 100 years as THE best dogs fir watching over children. FACTS, not media-driven hysterics.

JRosa1 wrote:
Readers, please note all claims in the above article are the author's personal fantasies and are not in any way supported by actual facts. All praise the internet, where even Skipper can be considered a journalist.

I agree 100% with the above comment. This article is made up of what the media does to this breed every time. Lets demonize a breed we don't understand, and only report on the attacks that this breed does, forget about the other millions of dog attacks each year. I know of many people who would agree and tear this article down piece by piece. Its irresponsible to see more misinformed, biased journalism on this breed, and more so to believe this garbage. Good luck with that backlash Skipper! That and go volunteer at a shelter, go watch them kill dogs, as that is what your asking for! See if you feel the same way! No dog deserves to die because of human error. Can't we all just pull our heads out and blame the humans responsible??!! And also consider other high biting little dogs as a nuisance, oh but they don't cause damage according to your article so who cares. This is a sad misinformed article, get a clue or don't write about it!

Truly pathetic to hear so called "journalists" calling the bull breeds 'fighting-dogs'??? At the turn of the last century they were known as 'nanny-dogs' as they were adopted to mind very young children. The most vicious dog I've ever had was a maltese-pomeranian cross!!! Go figure?? Never been bitten by a dog myself but my sister has been attacked by dogs on two seperate occassions, a beagle and a german shepherd. She OWNED a pit bull later when she was an adult and it was the sweetest animal i've ever had the pleasure to know and cuddle!! It was taken and adopted from a man that was trying to train it to fight... chopped up ears, chopped tail..etc, and yet this animal was like a teddy-bear to my niece... she sat on it, poked it in the eyes, bit it and it did nothing but love her. Shame on you 'journos' (and i use that term very, very loosely in this case), that are hell bent on venting whatever mental disorder possesses you on these wonderful creatures.

I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Perfect example of a lie, repeated often enough, being taken as truth. NO BREED OF DOG CAN LOCK THEIR JAW...PERIOD. No dog possesses such a mechanism, and such a trait would serve no purpose in nature. Pit breeds have a strong bite (about 1/3rd as strong as a German Shepherd, actually)...but they can NOT 'lock' them.

I've been bitten by a dog before, three times to be exact. Once was accidental, and twice because I got near an aggressive and poorly socialized dogs territory. None of the dogs were "pit bulls." All of the dogs were repeat offenders. Dogs bite out of fear, because of pain, due to poor socialization, due to mental instability, and so on, but they NEVER bite due to what breed, breed mix, or stereotype they are labeled.

All dogs are individuals and should be treated as such. Don't give in to the hype or the trolls.

If you want to learn more about "pit bulls ," please visit www.badrap.org.

Any dog can be a problem dog. The Cocker Spaniel was the #1 biter in the 1980's. I know an attorney who was attacked by her Cocker and required >200 stitches. Nobody wanted to ban Cockers. Doxies, Shih Tzu, Jack Russell/Parsons are all equally as aggressive and dangerous. If owners were punished for not having better trained/behaved animals, there would be less problems (and less dogs). I do not have a problem with euthanizing a dog with a serious behavior problem. I do have a problem with banning a breed and I am absolutely in favor of severe fines and punishment for negligent dog owners. Put the responsibility back on the owner, not the dog.

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Perfect example of a lie, repeated often enough, being taken as truth. NO BREED OF DOG CAN LOCK THEIR JAW...PERIOD. No dog possesses such a mechanism, and such a trait would serve no purpose in nature. Pit breeds have a strong bite (about 1/3rd as strong as a German Shepherd, actually)...but they can NOT 'lock' them.

My late husband owned a Staff years ago and my point being was, when the dog attacked other dogs it was near impossible to release the Staffs jaw, which would have been easier on another breed. The dog was brought up perfectly and was good with children but it did not alter the fact it was a pain in the, arse for attacking other dogs, I therefore still agree with Skipper and think these dogs should be fased out as pets gradually by discontinuing breading.

Should have read 'fazed'.

This moron states dog fighting has died out!! It is worse than ever and worldwide. It is the owner not the breed for any dog.
As for being bred to fight, so was the English bulldog!! Get your facts straight before you go spouting off!!

Zella wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Perfect example of a lie, repeated often enough, being taken as truth. NO BREED OF DOG CAN LOCK THEIR JAW...PERIOD. No dog possesses such a mechanism, and such a trait would serve no purpose in nature. Pit breeds have a strong bite (about 1/3rd as strong as a German Shepherd, actually)...but they can NOT 'lock' them.

My late husband owned a Staff years ago and my point being was, when the dog attacked other dogs it was near impossible to release the Staffs jaw, which would have been easier on another breed. The dog was brought up perfectly and was good with children but it did not alter the fact it was a pain in the, arse for attacking other dogs, I therefore still agree with Skipper and think these dogs should be fased out as pets gradually by discontinuing breading.

Easier still would have been to train the dog properly so the fights didn't occur. But then, that makes the owner responsible for the problem...and we can't have that, right? The dog wasn't the problem. Your husband was.

should have read 'breeding' too.

Wow, Skipper ... you're a complete idiot! Why don't you turn off Fox News and stop wasting time on dogbite.org and start doing some REAL factual research. Better yet, why aren't you advocating the repeal of the 2nd Amendment and blaming GUNS for shootings? If you are going to write "news" for the public to read ... take the time to please educate yourself so you don't continue sounding like a complete moron with an IQ of 25.

Zella wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Perfect example of a lie, repeated often enough, being taken as truth. NO BREED OF DOG CAN LOCK THEIR JAW...PERIOD. No dog possesses such a mechanism, and such a trait would serve no purpose in nature. Pit breeds have a strong bite (about 1/3rd as strong as a German Shepherd, actually)...but they can NOT 'lock' them.

My late husband owned a Staff years ago and my point being was, when the dog attacked other dogs it was near impossible to release the Staffs jaw, which would have been easier on another breed. The dog was brought up perfectly and was good with children but it did not alter the fact it was a pain in the, arse for attacking other dogs, I therefore still agree with Skipper and think these dogs should be fased out as pets gradually by discontinuing breading.

Again, another idiot. Pit bulls and pit bull type dogs have a weaker bite strength than many dogs, including Rottweilers (#1) and German Shepherds (#2). If your husband had dogs whose bites could not be stopped on another dog, then your husband had no business having ANY dogs. There are many methods used to stop a dog fight, and trying to stop the dog from biting is NOT one of them.

BTW- I'm a plenty strong 200lb, 6' guy, and when my mother's Cocker Spaniel attacked my Westie, **I** could not pry his mouth open to release my dog. Also, Cocker Spaniels are FAR more prone to attacking. So, just how far does this BSL nonsense need to go?

clagow wrote:
Wow, Skipper ... you're a complete idiot! Why don't you turn off Fox News and stop wasting time on dogbite.org and start doing some REAL factual research. Better yet, why aren't you advocating the repeal of the 2nd Amendment and blaming GUNS for shootings? If you are going to write "news" for the public to read ... take the time to please educate yourself so you don't continue sounding like a complete moron with an IQ of 25.

Hey Clagow, you seem like a lovely person, very balanced and just the sort who should be owning a dangerous breed of dog. If you'd bothered looking at this site through your rage filled eyes you might have noticed it is based in the UK, so not likely to campaign against US law.

This is just an opinion piece, and in this country free speech is still allowed, even if their opinion differs from your own. Sad to see that is not the case over the pond any more....

Skipper, I think we should let stupid humans die out...with you leading the pack. Staffies bred for aggression? You lack of historical fact checking for a reporter is laughable. And dog fighting has died out? Unfortunately, it has not...and many dogs are used in dog fighting. You should be very embarrassed to call yourself a writer/reporter. I'm glad no one seems to be giving you any credibility.

Why blame the dog blame the owner i have a STB's all my life and never has one savaged anybody. What i do think its time people like yourself develop a brain and stop pointing the finger and it probably wasnt even a "Staffie" that did it more chance of it being some xbreed thing some chav is claiming to be one...

JRosa1 wrote:
BTW- I'm a plenty strong 200lb, 6' guy, and when my mother's Cocker Spaniel attacked my Westie, **I** could not pry his mouth open to release my dog. Also, Cocker Spaniels are FAR more prone to attacking. So, just how far does this BSL nonsense need to go?

You do not attempt to pry a dog's mouth open to break up a fight! That's the complete WRONG thing to do! There are several methods to break up a dog fight, but the most widely used and most typically effective is the "wheelbarrow" ... lift the BITING dog off the ground by its hind legs. The dog will be thrown off balance and will be distracted from biting. Anyone who attempts to disengage a biting dog is begging to be bitten in the process. Good luck to you all. I see education is not of much importance in the UK any longer.

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Grow a brain they don't lock anything they just have strong jaws

Johnny Rotting wrote:

clagow wrote:
Wow, Skipper ... you're a complete idiot! Why don't you turn off Fox News and stop wasting time on dogbite.org and start doing some REAL factual research. Better yet, why aren't you advocating the repeal of the 2nd Amendment and blaming GUNS for shootings? If you are going to write "news" for the public to read ... take the time to please educate yourself so you don't continue sounding like a complete moron with an IQ of 25.

Hey Clagow, you seem like a lovely person, very balanced and just the sort who should be owning a dangerous breed of dog. If you'd bothered looking at this site through your rage filled eyes you might have noticed it is based in the UK, so not likely to campaign against US law.

This is just an opinion piece, and in this country free speech is still allowed, even if their opinion differs from your own. Sad to see that is not the case over the pond any more....

There is NO inherently dangerous breed of dog, Rotting (nice name by the way). People shape animals into what they want them to be. If I take a chihuahua and chain it outside, abuse it, neglect it, tease it ... at some point that dog is going to lash out at someone. It's not a dangerous breed of dog ... it's reacting to its tortuous treatment.

JRosa1, you first state that my late husband was the problem not the dog, then you say your mothers dog attacked your dog, so does that make your mother the problem!!

Clagow, surely you must see that an angry chihuahua is not going to cause the same damage as and angry bull terrier.
Now I'm not agreeing with banning the breed, but blindly defending your stance and dismissing any other opinion as 'stupid' is no way to argue your corner.
Education is fine and well in the UK by the way, I will not stoop to pointing out your own typos in order to win a petty point in an Internet argument.....

Zella wrote:
JRosa1, you first state that my late husband was the problem not the dog, then you say your mothers dog attacked your dog, so does that make your mother the problem!!

Yes. That wasn't clear?

registered to place a comment: what a complete idiot you haven't got a clue bsl is just a form of racism there designed to fight and be aggressive what a load of bs ive had my female staff on her own for 3 years then last week i got another and guess what no aggression what so ever from either they get on like they been together all there life my niece and nephew climb all over my female she loves it and when i babysit my nephew she gos and lays with him and will not leave his side why do u think they been named nanny dogs in the right hands they just the same as any other dog i agree on putting to sleep aggressive dogs that have been trained to be that way but you cannot tar all with the same brush And zeela go educate yourself staffies cannot lock there jaws the only animal that can do that is a croc staffies have a powerful bite but not as powerful as some other breeds staffords are a cross of the old english bulldog and white terrier should them breeds also be put to sleep and fazed out look at the scum that have children and dont teach them right from wrong they then grow up to be scum themselfs should we just kill them too as they wasnt trained right its how they are raised not the dog itself

clagow wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:
BTW- I'm a plenty strong 200lb, 6' guy, and when my mother's Cocker Spaniel attacked my Westie, **I** could not pry his mouth open to release my dog. Also, Cocker Spaniels are FAR more prone to attacking. So, just how far does this BSL nonsense need to go?

You do not attempt to pry a dog's mouth open to break up a fight! That's the complete WRONG thing to do! There are several methods to break up a dog fight, but the most widely used and most typically effective is the "wheelbarrow" ... lift the BITING dog off the ground by its hind legs. The dog will be thrown off balance and will be distracted from biting. Anyone who attempts to disengage a biting dog is begging to be bitten in the process. Good luck to you all. I see education is not of much importance in the UK any longer.

A- USA, here, not UK... not that location is relevant. We did give the world "Jersey Shore", after all. :)

B- Yes, I know you don't do that AFTER trying it 20+ years ago (and I got a very nice bite out of it). Live and learn. Haven't done that since. :)

"Skipper" (of what I dread to think), you have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about. Have you ever had a dog as a pet? I doubt it. You say "Now clearly, in most cases, the owners must take a lot of the blame" - no, you numpty, in ALL cases the owners must take the blame. Have you even asked yourself why someone might be attacked? Have you considered that some poor dog may have been tormented mercilessly for hours before eventually having had enough and snapping? I doubt it.

Staffies ARE loyal and docile family pets. Maybe you should get one yourself and see.

Skipper? How about Skip Over. Because that's what I'll be doing in future.

Skipper so clear to me it is that you are a fan of the sun! There are no figures or data to back you up quite the opposite really. Blue Cross, Battersea dogs home and Kennel Club all recommend and support this dog.

Owners really are the ones to blame. I own two dogs none of which have bitten anybody as they are well trained and well socialised. You do nothing more than slander a good breed on a few examples of bad ownership.

I personally am petitioning against the DDA and to have better laws in place to protect responsible dog owners, the public and dogs. I myself have been bitten by a Labrador but as it did not fit in with the medias bad dog image no one was interested.

“Sadly, it is too simple just to blame the owner and to not even look at the breed of dog in question.” If you had taken the time an effort to research before writing your inaccurate and derogative article you would have learnt that Staffordshire bull Terriers do not even make the top ten of the dogs most likely to attack.

top ten most aggressive breed:
1. Dachshunds
2. Chihuahua
3. Jack Russell
4. Australian Cattle Dog
5. Cocker Spaniel
6. Beagle
7. Border Collie
8. Pit Bull Terrier
9. Great Dane
10. English Springer Spaniel


You also incorrectly states that dog fighting has died out. It hasn’t. Even though it is illegal there are still underground groups that fight.
On the 14th of July there are Peaceful marches planned across the UK to end BSL and protesting for better laws. As humans and adults its about time we stopped blaming breeds and started blaming owners.
Education not discrimination!

I think you should think before you type and consider looking at these links. I can provide dozen more with actual facts not hearsay , scaremongering and finger pointing.
http://www.dogbitecl
aims.co.uk/dangerous
-breeds.html
http://www.bluecross
.org.uk/100136/respe
ctabull.html

Quote - "There are plenty of Labradors or Spaniels which have been neglected, but they have not earned the same reputation as the Staffie."

What the author fails to realise, probebly due to lack of proper research or general knowledge on the subect, is that it is the staffie that is favoured by the type of owner that will fail to train/train to fight or neglect their dog. Labradors and spaniels are not so widely used in this way. This is why staffies have such a bad reputation.
Yes, licenses should be reintroduced because at the moment, anyone can own a dog, and be responsible for training it and for breeding it. This is totally wrong as not everyone is responsible enough or wants a dog for the riht reasons, which leads to attacks like the one on this poor young girl.
There is no reason to add staffies to a dangerous dogs list purely because of their breed. It is totally illogical. I own a staffie who is registered with PET or "pets as therapy". She visits vulnerable older people on a weekly basis, is a great comfort to them and much loved by them all. It would be ludicrous to think that she should be on a dangerous dogs list simply beause of her breed!
A dangerous owners list sounds like a much more sensible suggestion.

djsj78 wrote:

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Grow a brain they don't lock anything they just have strong jaws

grow a brain yourself. certain breeds bite down hard and they choose to continue the bite until the victim is dead. certain breeds have geater bite strenth. cartain breeds are emotionally very excitable. these three categories of breeds should never be bred to each other, but are great breeds to breed only to their own category.

AndreaMichelle wrote:

djsj78 wrote:

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Grow a brain they don't lock anything they just have strong jaws

grow a brain yourself. certain breeds bite down hard and they choose to continue the bite until the victim is dead. certain breeds have geater bite strenth. cartain breeds are emotionally very excitable. these three categories of breeds should never be bred to each other, but are great breeds to breed only to their own category.

I have a better idea. Why don't we just stop cross breeding. Outlaw back yard breeding and bring back licences.

serica wrote:
here we go again, lets all blame the staffie , yes i agree these dogs are a danger in the wrong hands,as is any strong dog. i have 2 that are the most gentle dogs i have ever had, its time that licenses were brought in, i agree, blame the deed not the breed,

You don't have mandatory dog licencing? Why not? Every dog owner should be educated on their dog's breed, demonstrate to a vatrinarian that they have adequate space and fences to keep the dog from unsupervised intearactions with dogs and children, and have proof of vaccinations, as a matter of public heath.

think it says it all really, its not the bull breeds that need to be got rid of , its the bad owners , no one will ever take my two staffies away , which by the way have never bitten any one , they in fact have been snaped at a few times by little dogs which they could have killed easily , but they just walk away ,, why is it that its always in the papers when a staffie bites , but no when its another breed of dog , to all the staffie haters out there you dont no what you are missing , they are a very loveing breed of dog

Johnny Rotting wrote:

clagow wrote:
Wow, Skipper ... you're a complete idiot! Why don't you turn off Fox News and stop wasting time on dogbite.org and start doing some REAL factual research. Better yet, why aren't you advocating the repeal of the 2nd Amendment and blaming GUNS for shootings? If you are going to write "news" for the public to read ... take the time to please educate yourself so you don't continue sounding like a complete moron with an IQ of 25.

Hey Clagow, you seem like a lovely person, very balanced and just the sort who should be owning a dangerous breed of dog. If you'd bothered looking at this site through your rage filled eyes you might have noticed it is based in the UK, so not likely to campaign against US law.

This is just an opinion piece, and in this country free speech is still allowed, even if their opinion differs from your own. Sad to see that is not the case over the pond any more....

Oh we still have free speech over here, that doesn't stop us from telling people like "Clagus" to shut up/ saying "shut up" is protected free speech, too. He's probably way over on your site , as a result of being told to shut up over here.

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Perfect example of a lie, repeated often enough, being taken as truth. NO BREED OF DOG CAN LOCK THEIR JAW...PERIOD. No dog possesses such a mechanism, and such a trait would serve no purpose in nature. Pit breeds have a strong bite (about 1/3rd as strong as a German Shepherd, actually)...but they can NOT 'lock' them.

My late husband owned a Staff years ago and my point being was, when the dog attacked other dogs it was near impossible to release the Staffs jaw, which would have been easier on another breed. The dog was brought up perfectly and was good with children but it did not alter the fact it was a pain in the, arse for attacking other dogs, I therefore still agree with Skipper and think these dogs should be fased out as pets gradually by discontinuing breading.

Easier still would have been to train the dog properly so the fights didn't occur. But then, that makes the owner responsible for the problem...and we can't have that, right? The dog wasn't the problem. Your husband was.

No, certain dog breeds have a reflex that makes them unable to let go after they bite. And yes that "lock" does exist, it can't be found in the skeleton because it's an involuntary reflex, not a bone. no human behavior can change this reflex in adog who was born with it, the only things humans can do about it is to choose not to breed dogs with locking jaws, to excitable breeds nor to breeds with greater bite strenth.

staffielover2 wrote:
registered to place a comment: what a complete idiot you haven't got a clue bsl is just a form of racism there designed to fight and be aggressive what a load of bs ive had my female staff on her own for 3 years then last week i got another and guess what no aggression what so ever from either they get on like they been together all there life my niece and nephew climb all over my female she loves it and when i babysit my nephew she gos and lays with him and will not leave his side why do u think they been named nanny dogs in the right hands they just the same as any other dog i agree on putting to sleep aggressive dogs that have been trained to be that way but you cannot tar all with the same brush And zeela go educate yourself staffies cannot lock there jaws the only animal that can do that is a croc staffies have a powerful bite but not as powerful as some other breeds staffords are a cross of the old english bulldog and white terrier should them breeds also be put to sleep and fazed out look at the scum that have children and dont teach them right from wrong they then grow up to be scum themselfs should we just kill them too as they wasnt trained right its how they are raised not the dog itself

I won't tell you to shut up. I will tell you that Freedom of speech is not a guarantee that using your mouth without using your brain first, will result in anything worth printing.

Unbelievable!! Yet again another reporter jumping on the bandwagon before checking their facts. Just so you know SBT's are NOT responsible for the most attacks in the UK, far from it. In fact so called 'family dogs' are, especially collies, jack russells and labs but that's just not sensational enough for you narrow minded bigots who just want to get a reaction and slander the breed, ANY dog can attack. Staffies are used now by 'Thugs' who train them to be aggressive, and use them as a status symbol as they cannot own Pits, and the majority of attacks blamed on Staffies are in fact cross breeds (usually with pits). Also Staffies were called 'Nanny dogs' because of their natural affinity and love of children and were used to mind children in boarding schools and childrens homes at night, hence Nanny dog! I have a Staffie and I have 2 young children, but my dog has been raised in a loving household, well trained and socialised and all you are doing is scaremongering so people who see my dog actually cross the road!!! So in future check your facts before joining this pathetic slander on an amazing breed of dog!

AndreaMichelle wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Perfect example of a lie, repeated often enough, being taken as truth. NO BREED OF DOG CAN LOCK THEIR JAW...PERIOD. No dog possesses such a mechanism, and such a trait would serve no purpose in nature. Pit breeds have a strong bite (about 1/3rd as strong as a German Shepherd, actually)...but they can NOT 'lock' them.

My late husband owned a Staff years ago and my point being was, when the dog attacked other dogs it was near impossible to release the Staffs jaw, which would have been easier on another breed. The dog was brought up perfectly and was good with children but it did not alter the fact it was a pain in the, arse for attacking other dogs, I therefore still agree with Skipper and think these dogs should be fased out as pets gradually by discontinuing breading.

Easier still would have been to train the dog properly so the fights didn't occur. But then, that makes the owner responsible for the problem...and we can't have that, right? The dog wasn't the problem. Your husband was.

No, certain dog breeds have a reflex that makes them unable to let go after they bite. And yes that "lock" does exist, it can't be found in the skeleton because it's an involuntary reflex, not a bone. no human behavior can change this reflex in adog who was born with it, the only things humans can do about it is to choose not to breed dogs with locking jaws, to excitable breeds nor to breeds with greater bite strenth.

http://pitstopnc.tri
pod.com/id2.html

There is no such thing as lock jaw.

http://www.dogwatch.
net/myths/lock_jaw.h
tml
Lock Jaw is a myth

http://www.badrap.or
g/monster-myths

AndreaMichelle wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Perfect example of a lie, repeated often enough, being taken as truth. NO BREED OF DOG CAN LOCK THEIR JAW...PERIOD. No dog possesses such a mechanism, and such a trait would serve no purpose in nature. Pit breeds have a strong bite (about 1/3rd as strong as a German Shepherd, actually)...but they can NOT 'lock' them.

My late husband owned a Staff years ago and my point being was, when the dog attacked other dogs it was near impossible to release the Staffs jaw, which would have been easier on another breed. The dog was brought up perfectly and was good with children but it did not alter the fact it was a pain in the, arse for attacking other dogs, I therefore still agree with Skipper and think these dogs should be fased out as pets gradually by discontinuing breading.

Easier still would have been to train the dog properly so the fights didn't occur. But then, that makes the owner responsible for the problem...and we can't have that, right? The dog wasn't the problem. Your husband was.

No, certain dog breeds have a reflex that makes them unable to let go after they bite. And yes that "lock" does exist, it can't be found in the skeleton because it's an involuntary reflex, not a bone. no human behavior can change this reflex in adog who was born with it, the only things humans can do about it is to choose not to breed dogs with locking jaws, to excitable breeds nor to breeds with greater bite strenth.

I'm betting there's something doesn't show up in your X-rays either...specificall
y between the ears. Once again- your claim has no basis in fact. An animal whose mouth becomes impossible to open INVOLUNTARILY?!? So such a dog could conceivably die of heat stroke because it can no longer pan?? Or even starve to death from this amazing feature not found anywhere in nature- only in your imagination? By all means, go ahead and try to provide some proof of this fantasy.

Any dog that attacks a human should be shot and any dog that threatens a human should be dealt with likewise.

Anyone who puts a dog's life above a human's is backward and all dog lovers are idiots.

Argue over that, you numbskulls.

AndreaMichelle wrote:

staffielover2 wrote:
registered to place a comment: what a complete idiot you haven't got a clue bsl is just a form of racism there designed to fight and be aggressive what a load of bs ive had my female staff on her own for 3 years then last week i got another and guess what no aggression what so ever from either they get on like they been together all there life my niece and nephew climb all over my female she loves it and when i babysit my nephew she gos and lays with him and will not leave his side why do u think they been named nanny dogs in the right hands they just the same as any other dog i agree on putting to sleep aggressive dogs that have been trained to be that way but you cannot tar all with the same brush And zeela go educate yourself staffies cannot lock there jaws the only animal that can do that is a croc staffies have a powerful bite but not as powerful as some other breeds staffords are a cross of the old english bulldog and white terrier should them breeds also be put to sleep and fazed out look at the scum that have children and dont teach them right from wrong they then grow up to be scum themselfs should we just kill them too as they wasnt trained right its how they are raised not the dog itself

I won't tell you to shut up. I will tell you that Freedom of speech is not a guarantee that using your mouth without using your brain first, will result in anything worth printing.

so your saying that i did not use my brain haha listen to u how is what i said not worth printing what i stated is perfectly relevant people need to understand that it isnt the dog its the owner and what i said shows that i am one that has brought them up the correct way so why should the responsible owners loose there beloved family member due to the irresponsible scum that see them as status symbols

Your dog is a "beloved family member"???

Aww, do you let it eat off the same plate as you and share your ice cream cone as well?

Sicko.

JRosa1 wrote:

AndreaMichelle wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:

Zella wrote:
I agree with the 'Skipper' Staffs lock their jaws when they attack, making it harder to release their victims.

Perfect example of a lie, repeated often enough, being taken as truth. NO BREED OF DOG CAN LOCK THEIR JAW...PERIOD. No dog possesses such a mechanism, and such a trait would serve no purpose in nature. Pit breeds have a strong bite (about 1/3rd as strong as a German Shepherd, actually)...but they can NOT 'lock' them.

My late husband owned a Staff years ago and my point being was, when the dog attacked other dogs it was near impossible to release the Staffs jaw, which would have been easier on another breed. The dog was brought up perfectly and was good with children but it did not alter the fact it was a pain in the, arse for attacking other dogs, I therefore still agree with Skipper and think these dogs should be fased out as pets gradually by discontinuing breading.

Easier still would have been to train the dog properly so the fights didn't occur. But then, that makes the owner responsible for the problem...and we can't have that, right? The dog wasn't the problem. Your husband was.

No, certain dog breeds have a reflex that makes them unable to let go after they bite. And yes that "lock" does exist, it can't be found in the skeleton because it's an involuntary reflex, not a bone. no human behavior can change this reflex in adog who was born with it, the only things humans can do about it is to choose not to breed dogs with locking jaws, to excitable breeds nor to breeds with greater bite strenth.

I'm betting there's something doesn't show up in your X-rays either...specificall

y between the ears. Once again- your claim has no basis in fact. An animal whose mouth becomes impossible to open INVOLUNTARILY?!? So such a dog could conceivably die of heat stroke because it can no longer pan?? Or even starve to death from this amazing feature not found anywhere in nature- only in your imagination? By all means, go ahead and try to provide some proof of this fantasy.

Undeliverable as you can no doubt tell from this guys "SKIPPER" has no intelligence what so ever and is just running of the back of the media spin quoting on factual evidence what so ever.

NO DOG IN THE WORLD HAS THIS MYSTICAL **LOCKJAW** it's an urban myth just ask any vet

DogsKillBabies wrote:
Any dog that attacks a human should be shot and any dog that threatens a human should be dealt with likewise.

Anyone who puts a dog's life above a human's is backward and all dog lovers are idiots.

Argue over that, you numbskulls.

any dog that attacks a human should be put to sleep i agree but to basically say as a human we are better than any other animal is a dumbass comment we may be the most intelligent species on the planet excusing a few so this is all i got to say to u your just trolling

"Undeliverable?"

What are you talking about, you prat.

And staffielover2 - right back at you.

You're part of the problem, not the solution.

DogsKillBabies wrote:
And staffielover2 - right back at you.

You're part of the problem, not the solution.

how am i part of the problem? the problem is the idiots giving them a bad name how is raising my dogs the correct way part of the prob

DogsKillBabies wrote:
Your dog is a "beloved family member"???

Aww, do you let it eat off the same plate as you and share your ice cream cone as well?

Sicko.

Yes. But you can't. I like dogs WAY better than ignorant bigots.

DogsKillBabies wrote:
Any dog that attacks a human should be shot and any dog that threatens a human should be dealt with likewise.

Anyone who puts a dog's life above a human's is backward and all dog lovers are idiots.

Argue over that, you numbskulls.

Nothing to argue about. I'd shoot any human that attacked my dogs, absolutely. And were it you, I'd actually quite enjoy it. Bigot.

Now that's just cruel. I'm not prejudiced - I just happen to think that you're insane and the views you hold are retarded.

JRosa1 wrote:

DogsKillBabies wrote:
Any dog that attacks a human should be shot and any dog that threatens a human should be dealt with likewise.

Anyone who puts a dog's life above a human's is backward and all dog lovers are idiots.

Argue over that, you numbskulls.

Nothing to argue about. I'd shoot any human that attacked my dogs, absolutely. And were it you, I'd actually quite enjoy it. Bigot.

haha well said jrosa1 him/her just trolling seeking attention il reload your gun for u

DogsKillBabies wrote:
Now that's just cruel. I'm not prejudiced - I just happen to think that you're insane and the views you hold are retarded.

Fine by me, as your opinion means not a thing to any thinking person.

I hardly think death threats are appropriate.

If you don't like what you've read, why not sod off back to an American website and stop cluttering up this comments board.

Otherwise, I might just request your IP addresses.

May I remind you that the maximum sentence for making a threat to kill is 10 years in jail.

DogsKillBabies wrote:
Your dog is a "beloved family member"???

Aww, do you let it eat off the same plate as you and share your ice cream cone as well?

Sicko.

yes family member dumbass and no i dont allow them to eat of my plate you actually got me laughing your such a clown but enough said as was stated by jrosa1 your opinion means not a thing to any thinking person.

DogsKillBabies wrote:
I hardly think death threats are appropriate.

If you don't like what you've read, why not sod off back to an American website and stop cluttering up this comments board.

Otherwise, I might just request your IP addresses.

May I remind you that the maximum sentence for making a threat to kill is 10 years in jail.

Coward's response. I threatened no one. I spoke of how I'd respond to anyone who attacked my family...so do kindly shove it.

staffielover2 wrote:

JRosa1 wrote:

DogsKillBabies wrote:
Any dog that attacks a human should be shot and any dog that threatens a human should be dealt with likewise.

Anyone who puts a dog's life above a human's is backward and all dog lovers are idiots.

Argue over that, you numbskulls.

Nothing to argue about. I'd shoot any human that attacked my dogs, absolutely. And were it you, I'd actually quite enjoy it. Bigot.

haha well said jrosa1 him/her just trolling seeking attention il reload your gun for u

dont bother replying to dogskillbabies , they have nothing to offer on this topic , just a billy no mates looking for attention

this person really needs to do his research properly, staffys are no more dangerous than any other dog, i have owned staffys for 20years and never ever had a problem with them, i surggest he goes and gets one then he can comment on the breed till then dont judge the breed

DogsKillBabies wrote:
Any dog that attacks a human should be shot and any dog that threatens a human should be dealt with likewise.

Anyone who puts a dog's life above a human's is backward and all dog lovers are idiots.

Argue over that, you numbskulls.

I am a dog owner and actually love all animals more than I could love some humans - get off this site as you are not contributing anything of sense - just ridiculous abuse. I am neither backward or an idiot nor am I a numbskull - pot, kettle black perhaps!!

chinatessstorm wrote:
this person really needs to do his research properly, staffys are no more dangerous than any other dog, i have owned staffys for 20years and never ever had a problem with them, i surggest he goes and gets one then he can comment on the breed till then dont judge the breed

well said chinatesstorm

@DogsKillBabies. It is fact that man is far more dangerous than dog. Man kills how many children and babies each day through use of abortion and wars, you can't refute that so think a little before you speak. A pomeranian kills a baby, you don't hear people calling to phase them out do you!
@Zella, it's obvious your husband does not know how to properly socialize a dog with other animals. It's not something a dog is raised with, good owners teach thier dogs. Unfortunately, to many idiots get a dog and don't spend the time it takes to train them properly. It makes me wonder how these owners were raised by thier own parents. Ask the Romaro family how they feel about missy the pittbull that saved thier young boy from being mauled by two akita's. Or Lilly the pitt who lost her leg saving her owner from being hit by a train. Pitt banning is a stupid idea concocted by stupid people, period. God loves Pitts as well as all living creatures no matter what people's prejudices are against them. God loves people even the ignorant ones as well. Those of us who know the breed and live with them responsibly, we know the truth. Unfortunately, we have looked down upon the ingnorant ones and hope one day their brain will kick in.

well what a load of tosh, having been around many kinds of dogs over the years ie for security work , pets etc, the most dangerous dog i encountered was an ex military GSD, obviously bred and taught to be that way. dogs like humans will only learn what they get taught by the owners never have i come across a dangerous staffie. I have always encountered nasty braindead humans, as is the case with whoever journo behind the story. is it not time to ensure bad reporters are banned , or let them encounter a good staffie owner, to sort the truth from the lies

alfmarshmutt wrote:
well what a load of tosh, having been around many kinds of dogs over the years ie for security work , pets etc, the most dangerous dog i encountered was an ex military GSD, obviously bred and taught to be that way. dogs like humans will only learn what they get taught by the owners never have i come across a dangerous staffie. I have always encountered nasty braindead humans, as is the case with whoever journo behind the story. is it not time to ensure bad reporters are banned , or let them encounter a good staffie owner, to sort the truth from the lies

i agree totally

How about asking these saintly, blameless dog owners some simple questions before jumping into the "born demon dog", pro-Nazi law bandwagon? Ask them what kind of training and socialization they put their dog through. Maybe just watch them skate on asphalt while walking their dogs, which they might have purchased or adopted with the best of intentions and the utmost level of oblivion to the fact that some dog types and breeds are not for inexperienced, lazy, or too-busy-to-be-respo
nsible dog owners.
You might also stop and consider the fact that, contrary to the media reports you seem so gullible about, there are countless non-maligned dog breeds causing serious, at times fatal injuries to people. And again, it's all thanks to their owners' lack of responsibility. Look up "The Calgary model", you might learn a thing or two.

And finally, you might consider the implications of applying the "kill any species with a history of and potential for dangerous behaviour" rule in the real world, because I don't think I need to remind you which species would be the first to become extinct under that sort of policy.

Here we go, the paranoid dog nazi's are on the warpath yet again! What idiot wrote this article? Do you have a clue what you are talking about? Have you ever owned a staffie? If you must ban something, how about banning irresponsible dog owners? There is no such thing as a 'bad' dog, only bad owners! My daughter was savaged badly on her calf muscle by a cocker spaniel, so how about adding that breed to the dangerous dogs list? I have never read so much knee jerk bull in my life.

@DogsKillBabies, are you one of the irresponsible parents that let's a dog near a baby? Because that is the only way that any dog, if inclined could get close enough to kill a baby. Maybe bad parents should be shot aswell, and while we are on the subject, please control your children.

All these foreigners sticking their nose in where it's not wanted or needed.

You might not like what I have to say, but I live in this country & I'm entitled to my opinions.

You don't live here. So STFU.

Lazy and sloppy reporting!

"The breed is responsible for a much higher proportion of dog attacks in the UK than it should be"

There are NO available statistics on breed and bite incidents. There are, however, journalists slavvering over any negative incident involving a Stafford, pen poised for some sensationalist reporting, resulting in sloppy journalism.

Whoever wrote this steaming pile is clearly looking for a job with the Sun on Sunday.

Once again someone in the media is condemning a breed of dogs which they have no knowledge about, yes they were originally bred to attack bulls which is why they are called Staffordshire BULL Terriers. They went onto dog fighting after that.

ALL dogs that are used for dog fighting HAVE to be good with us humans, their owners need to be able to get hold of them when they are in full fighting mode, if they were aggressive to humans they would have been putting their loves at risk so any aggression to humans was bred out of them by killing any dog that showed aggression to humans.

When they were used as fighting dogs it was common to find a badly injured Staffy put in the pram with the baby to take him home, if these were naturally aggressive to humans they couldn't have done this.

I have a rescue Staffy, he nearly died of starvation but is a very loving dog, he is also one of the best dogs I have had with other dogs so no, they are not all aggressive to other dogs.

On Breakfast TV this morning they reported on teenagers, a survey has been done which shows that most teenagers have high morals, it is just a very small percentage that do the damage that all teenagers are blamed for.

All dogs can bite and do a lot of damage but Staffies are now a status symbol for the small percentage of aggressive men who put their aggression into the dog.

Staffies have also been bred to have a high tollerance to pain, in order to turn them aggressive to humans they are kept isolated so never meet humans apart from their owner. This isn't enough for the idiots who want a fighting dog, they then abuse them, beating, kicking, punching, etc to turn them aggressive.

Next time you seen an aggressive Staffy, or any other breed for that matter, instead of condeming him, think about what he has been through to get like that, if it is a Bull breed it may have been abused as well.

I have a Greyhound cross, she is terrified of people, I don't think she will bite but can't guarentee it and I suspect she is more likely to bite than my Staffy.

There is a well known man on TV who also contributes to aggressive dogs by the way he treats the dogs he trains, we are never told how many of the dogs are pts because they have been made worse, but I have been told it is approximately 90%

Maybe instead of attacking dogs, why not educate people on how to take care and train dogs using positive methods instead of the old fashioned way of punishing them.

another lame excuse to malign a certain "type" of canine. Apparently this person watches too much FOX news to ascertain what facts vs sensationalism is. Remember this: in the '70s they came for the german shepherd; in the 80's they came for the dobie; in the 90's they came for the rottweiler; now its pitties turn for the evilness. When will it be the human's turn for someone to come after? After all, it is humans who have done this, not the "type"!

DogsKillBabies wrote:
All these foreigners sticking their nose in where it's not wanted or needed.

You might not like what I have to say, but I live in this country & I'm entitled to my opinions.

You don't live here. So STFU.

Welcome to the internet... where it's not your decision who gets to speak when! What a fascist.

bloody gobby yanks - why don't you all just do one?

DogsKillBabies wrote:
bloody gobby yanks - why don't you all just do one?

Because, again, nobody cares what you want.

Berk.

DogsKillBabies wrote:
Berk.

Burp.

DogsKillBabies wrote:
Any dog that attacks a human should be shot and any dog that threatens a human should be dealt with likewise. Anyone who puts a dog's life above a human's is backward and all dog lovers are idiots. Argue over that, you numbskulls.

Any human that attacks another human should be shot, there are more human on human attacks than dog on human attacks.

DogsKillBabies wrote:
All these foreigners sticking their nose in where it's not wanted or needed.

You might not like what I have to say, but I live in this country & I'm entitled to my opinions.

You don't live here. So STFU.

how on earth do you know (think) we are all foreigners - I most certainly am not - I'm Cornish born and bred thank you very much!!!

I really can’t stand it when people speak with authority of things about which they know nothing. When they don’t check their information, and hence write something completely wrong as if it weren’t. For example:
• “a bite from a Staffie will inevitably cause far more damage than an attack by another breed.”
• “These dogs were bred as fighting dogs, and designed for aggression and strength.”
• “Happily dog fighting as a sport has all but died out over the years”
How about getting your facts right before putting garbage in writing?

Here’s a saying that might help you: ‘It’s better to keep your mouth closed and be thought an idiot, than to open it and prove it’

Is it time to let dangerous dog breeds die out? No, because who judges which dog is dangerous? It IS time to let dangerous people die out – the kind that write this sort of propaganda.

You advocate genocide. Really? How does it feel to have the same morals and values as Hitler???

I value life and innocent souls … all of them! I can never condone killing an innocent because of how they look, that would make me a gormless monster.

Here’s an idea: meet a few Staffies before you make judgement on them. You’ll learn something.

Seems to me you can’t spell either - Correctly spelled, you’d be Foulmouth Racket!

Between this sad incident and the last, how many teens got attacked with a knife? Any paper writing about that? Any paper asking to ban knifes?

How many car accidents since then? How many people got killed by cars last week alone? Not "just" hurt, but killed? Anyone writing about it? Anyone yelling 'ban cars'?

How many people died alcohol related since? A few hundred! How many people got hurt by someone drunk? Does anyone care screaming 'ban alcohol'?
What about tobacco? Tens of thousands DEAD each year. Diabetes caused by bad eating habits and poor quality food? Thousands die of it year after year. Ban a certain breed of dog? Strange priorities some have...


There are people in this world who don't like dogs, some even hate them. That's ok. I don't like kids, so what? Ban them? Not possible really?...hmmm, incarcerate until maturity then. Please do.

Semi-factual and ill researched articles written by utter morons like this skipper are aimed at the biggest part of any population - other poorly educated morons. Instigating and stirring up senseless fear is so much easier then doing a proper research and writing unbiased. Of course, said biggest part of the population wouldn't read it then.

Same principle applies in politics - satisfy the majority, right or wrong. Instigators like this skipper are unable to research objectively, are unable to educate their readers, hence all what is left is instigating. Populistic crap. That's why articles like this are dangerous and cannot be neglected.



I would like to point to an unpopular and provocative question, but I believe it must be asked if one wants to be objective and find a way to prevent such incidents in future: Why was the girl bitten? I know, I know. She wanted to help the poor dog. Speaks for her good heart, yes. Was she qualified to do so? Did she had any experience with 'dangerous' dogs? Clearly not. I wonder if staying in the car and calling the authorities about a stray staffy would have caused bites?

As said above unpopular, but a dog had been destroyed because of someone unqualified wanting to help. I can't drive a train or fly a plane. In an emergency, if I take the wheel because I think I can and cause a crash with dozens of passengers killed - would anyone say 'hey ok, you are not to blame'?

Statistics show that, for example, farmer's children do not have such incidents with dogs. Not with their own, not with strays. Farmer's children learn very early how to interact with animals, including dogs.

What happened is sad, but it could have been avoided. By the dog's owner, and by the girl.

Banning Staffs will not change a single thing. Since BSL was introduced not a single bite statistic shows decreasing attacks. In any country with BSL.
To avoid dog bites one would have to ban ALL dogs with a snout big enough to put a finger in, because morons will find a replacement to polish their image with whatever dog is considered the most dangerous available. That's why teens carry knifes, looser drink to much and drive to fast - to feel good about themselves. Not because they like (or can handle) dogs, knifes, fast cars or alcohol. They like how it makes them feel, the image.


If one REALLY want to reduce dog related incidents, there is only one way: Enforce and control responsible dog ownership, dog licence would certainly be helpful and welcomed by most 'responsible' dog owners. No biggie really, everyone wanting a car needs a drivers licence and it is doable for tens of millions of drivers.
Enforce and control responsible breeding. Prohibit unlicensed breeding. Require and enforce any dog sold to be neutered/spayed. Require and enforce microchipping. Enforce severe punishments for breaching any of the above.

Educate the public how to behave around dogs, particularly strange dogs - starting in school with children.

Dog bites will never be eliminated as long as there are humans interacting with dogs. Any kind of dog. Banning certain breeds is proven over and over again NOT to help.


Articles like this http://www.azdogbite
firm.com/2012/07/01/
why-dogs-bite/ are much more useful in approaching the issue.

This whole article is a load of bs! It claims staffies attack disproportionate to their numbers. This is nothing but a lie!
1. dog bites and dog attacks are not held in one location in the uk, so it is impossible to see how many occur or what breeds are responsible.
2. As there is no licensing or registration it is impossible to say how many dogs there are of each breed as huge numbers are not registered with the kennel club making it impossible to see what % of each breed attacks.
3. even if that was possible all other factors would have to be taken into account, such as its training, the situation that lead to the attack, the animals previous behaviour, victim behaviour, who breed the dog and for what purpose, how many are owned by responsible owners to irresponsible ones, and so on.

Dog attacks are the result of people`s irresponsibility! Too many people choose what breed of dog the get based on the look of the dog or what they’ve hear d about it, instead of researching what breed best suits their life style. Too many people choose their new puppy for the price or because it was quicker to get rather than waiting until a responsible breeder has their next litter. This has created a large number of back yard breeders and puppy mills who breed dogs without and regard of the temperament or health or the dogs their breeding. Too many people don’t learn basic dog safety or teach it to their children. Too many people take their dogs into public places knowing its aggressive, without muzzling it or worse letting it of the lead resulting in dog fights or/and attacks. With all of this that the HUMANS are doing wrong, don’t let me it’s the dogs fault when an attack occurs! It’s time that people took the responsibility because whatever side of the nature v nurture debate you’re on, humans can control both when it comes to dogs!

ITS time to scrap the breed specific approach which has failed for the past 21 years and to strictly regulate the breeding and supply of dogs, so that only responsible breeders can breed, only healthy and good tempered animals can be breed from and so that irresponsible owners can’t get hold of a good full stop, because if they can’t get a dog that can’t create dog attacks. Health and temperament problems within breeds goes down, irresponsible ownership goes down so attacks go down and responsible owners can still own their breed of choose, a win win situation.

FelicityLynch wrote:
This whole article is a load of bs! It claims staffies attack disproportionate to their numbers. This is nothing but a lie!
1. dog bites and dog attacks are not held in one location in the uk, so it is impossible to see how many occur or what breeds are responsible.
2. As there is no licensing or registration it is impossible to say how many dogs there are of each breed as huge numbers are not registered with the kennel club making it impossible to see what % of each breed attacks.
3. even if that was possible all other factors would have to be taken into account, such as its training, the situation that lead to the attack, the animals previous behaviour, victim behaviour, who breed the dog and for what purpose, how many are owned by responsible owners to irresponsible ones, and so on.

Dog attacks are the result of people`s irresponsibility! Too many people choose what breed of dog the get based on the look of the dog or what they’ve hear d about it, instead of researching what breed best suits their life style. Too many people choose their new puppy for the price or because it was quicker to get rather than waiting until a responsible breeder has their next litter. This has created a large number of back yard breeders and puppy mills who breed dogs without and regard of the temperament or health or the dogs their breeding. Too many people don’t learn basic dog safety or teach it to their children. Too many people take their dogs into public places knowing its aggressive, without muzzling it or worse letting it of the lead resulting in dog fights or/and attacks. With all of this that the HUMANS are doing wrong, don’t let me it’s the dogs fault when an attack occurs! It’s time that people took the responsibility because whatever side of the nature v nurture debate you’re on, humans can control both when it comes to dogs!

ITS time to scrap the breed specific approach which has failed for the past 21 years and to strictly regulate the breeding and supply of dogs, so that only responsible breeders can breed, only healthy and good tempered animals can be breed from and so that irresponsible owners can’t get hold of a good full stop, because if they can’t get a dog that can’t create dog attacks. Health and temperament problems within breeds goes down, irresponsible ownership goes down so attacks go down and responsible owners can still own their breed of choose, a win win situation.

at last someone with a bit of sense , well said

I'd like someone to post a list of dogs that are not dangerous- ever. I'd happily provide the proof to the contrary.

In the end, the argument isn't about dangerous dogs. It's about dogs that people have a fear of, no matter how irrational.

How about those folks that still cross to the other side of the street when a non-white person is coming toward them. Same thing. It's ignorant racism, now applied to a species that has no voice, no legal recourse to defend itself.

It's bigotry, nothing else.

WHAT A LOADA CRAP!!! Once again the poor staffie gets it!!! ITS NOT THE BREED ITS THE DEED!!! Some ppl are so bloody ignorant!!!

Could someone tell me where I can purchase a "bite pressure gauge" from. So that if I'm bitten by one of these 'pets', I can check it's not applying too much pressure !.

titanium wrote:
Could someone tell me where I can purchase a "bite pressure gauge" from. So that if I'm bitten by one of these 'pets', I can check it's not applying too much pressure !.

You can make one with a good air pressure gauge inside a sealed rubber sleeve. If you plan to test more than Pit Bulls tho, be sure to get one that reads over 300lbs, or else a lesser gauge will break when the German Shepherd applies it's bite at THREE TIMES that of a Pit Bull (another inconvenient FACT). Which brings up another point- will all Police K9s also be killed for being 'of type'? They tend to bite fairly routinely in the performance of their duties.

Domestication of all animals was a cruel, unnatural mistake.

Pet dogs of all hues have been robbed of their liberty and forced to obey the will of "masters," who deem themselves kind and tolerant merely because they do not beat, harass or injure their prisoners.

Everyone here is right in saying that it is humans who are to blame for domesticated dog's deeds.

It is our species who brought these tainted aberrations into existence.

And because the spectre of extirpation breeds such contempt amongst those who would keep these prisoners, it is our species who must foot the bill.

What's a few mauled teenage girls by the wayside?

After all, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.