New Helston town slogan is announced

Following last week’s announcement of the new brand for Helston, the slogan to accompany it has also been revealed.

This will be ‘Positive people, perfect place’. The option of the Cornish translation, ‘tus posedhek, tyller perfydh’ is also available.

The slogan will be used next to the Celebration Star logo, which was voted the winner from six designs that were put to the public to choose from.

Now the branding has been decided it will be used to promote Helston nationally and internationally.

What do you think, have your say below.

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7:04am Thu 13 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

I think that was the best out of all the choices and probably the most accurate.
I think that was the best out of all the choices and probably the most accurate. Gill Zella Martin 09
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7:17am Thu 13 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

I believe it accurately reflects what people are trying to achieve for Helston, being positive for the future of the town and making it that perfect place to live in or to visit.
I believe it accurately reflects what people are trying to achieve for Helston, being positive for the future of the town and making it that perfect place to live in or to visit. Gill Zella Martin 09
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7:22am Thu 13 Dec 12

Three Word Wonder says...

I agree, 'positive people' is accurate for now,and the future

but 'perfect place' may just take a little while longer to aspire to


therefore Helston still remains

Quaint Cornish Town
I agree, 'positive people' is accurate for now,and the future but 'perfect place' may just take a little while longer to aspire to therefore Helston still remains Quaint Cornish Town Three Word Wonder
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7:25am Thu 13 Dec 12

Three Word Wonder says...

And soon I heard such a bustling and prancing, And then I saw the whole village was dancing, In and out of the houses they came, Old folk, young folk, all the same, In that quaint old Cornish town.....
And soon I heard such a bustling and prancing, And then I saw the whole village was dancing, In and out of the houses they came, Old folk, young folk, all the same, In that quaint old Cornish town..... Three Word Wonder
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7:31am Thu 13 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

I like it.
I like it. Gill Zella Martin 09
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12:48pm Fri 14 Dec 12

molesworth says...

Doesn't sound remotely like a slogan. It's just 2 disconnected statements that sound like they came out of a focus group. It doesn't 'talk' to you in anyway and it doesn't reflect anything real about Helston (or I doubt anywhere else for that matter). It's excruciating, it really is.
God, I hope Falmouth doesn't do this as well...
Doesn't sound remotely like a slogan. It's just 2 disconnected statements that sound like they came out of a focus group. It doesn't 'talk' to you in anyway and it doesn't reflect anything real about Helston (or I doubt anywhere else for that matter). It's excruciating, it really is. God, I hope Falmouth doesn't do this as well... molesworth
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1:46pm Fri 14 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

It's a claim you could make for any town. Tells people nothing about how unique Helston is. Disappointed with this thing.
It's a claim you could make for any town. Tells people nothing about how unique Helston is. Disappointed with this thing. ronedgcumbe
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1:50pm Fri 14 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

Sorry "whole thing.
Sorry "whole thing. ronedgcumbe
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1:52pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Three Word Wonder says...

I'll have a pee please Bob

Helston, Home of the Furry Dance, and neither the Brand 'design' or slogan truly reflects this

I agree Molesworth, all too modern for Helston which is a


Quaint Cornish Town
I'll have a pee please Bob Helston, Home of the Furry Dance, and neither the Brand 'design' or slogan truly reflects this I agree Molesworth, all too modern for Helston which is a Quaint Cornish Town Three Word Wonder
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3:58pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Well the other two options as far as I remember were 'Helston completely Cornish' or 'Helston the friendliest town' and in my opinion they could not accurately have 'Helston Completely Cornish' because they have continental markets and not everyone in Helston is Cornish, and if they had 'Helston the friendliest town' then that would be open to debate with other towns.
Well the other two options as far as I remember were 'Helston completely Cornish' or 'Helston the friendliest town' and in my opinion they could not accurately have 'Helston Completely Cornish' because they have continental markets and not everyone in Helston is Cornish, and if they had 'Helston the friendliest town' then that would be open to debate with other towns. Gill Zella Martin 09
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4:58pm Fri 14 Dec 12

molesworth says...

How about 'We're not sure what we are but we're happy'? Or 'I went to a communications expert and all I got was this lousy slogan'? Sorry Thre Word Wonder made me laugh and now I've gone silly...
How about 'We're not sure what we are but we're happy'? Or 'I went to a communications expert and all I got was this lousy slogan'? Sorry Thre Word Wonder made me laugh and now I've gone silly... molesworth
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9:12pm Fri 14 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

How about "Full of Helston promise"
How about "Full of Helston promise" ronedgcumbe
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7:23am Sat 15 Dec 12

molesworth says...

Brilliant!
Brilliant! molesworth
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10:21am Sat 15 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
How about "Full of Helston promise"
I agree Ron that is a good one.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: How about "Full of Helston promise"[/p][/quote]I agree Ron that is a good one. Gill Zella Martin 09
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1:51pm Sat 15 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

Thank you. I think the reason the logo for Helston has ended up being so poor is that you never get anything creative or origonal from a commitee.
What we have got now is so weak I think it could course damage to the image Helston already has.
Thank you. I think the reason the logo for Helston has ended up being so poor is that you never get anything creative or origonal from a commitee. What we have got now is so weak I think it could course damage to the image Helston already has. ronedgcumbe
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5:47pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

'Achieving positive outcomes' can be difficult as everyone has different ideas, however, I personally would be more likely attracted to a town if the branding showed you something or told you something about what the town offers. A combined picture of Flora day, Christmas lights, the museum and Coronation lake alongside coffee shops would attract me into the town if I had never been there. With a slogan of ' Helston, something to see and do all year round' alongside a logo that was plain and simple like a Lilly of the valley flower. (Not one that only resembles a Lilly of the valley flower sort of, if you stare at in the middle with a vivid imagination after drinking a couple of Baileys)
'Achieving positive outcomes' can be difficult as everyone has different ideas, however, I personally would be more likely attracted to a town if the branding showed you something or told you something about what the town offers. A combined picture of Flora day, Christmas lights, the museum and Coronation lake alongside coffee shops would attract me into the town if I had never been there. With a slogan of ' Helston, something to see and do all year round' alongside a logo that was plain and simple like a Lilly of the valley flower. (Not one that only resembles a Lilly of the valley flower sort of, if you stare at in the middle with a vivid imagination after drinking a couple of Baileys) Gill Zella Martin 09
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6:50pm Sat 15 Dec 12

rwarwicker says...

How about
"Be a clown, visit Helston town". From a few times I've been to Helston would be silly like a clown to visit again.
How about "Be a clown, visit Helston town". From a few times I've been to Helston would be silly like a clown to visit again. rwarwicker
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7:07pm Sat 15 Dec 12

meerkats says...

Gill Zella Martin 09 wrote:
'Achieving positive outcomes' can be difficult as everyone has different ideas, however, I personally would be more likely attracted to a town if the branding showed you something or told you something about what the town offers. A combined picture of Flora day, Christmas lights, the museum and Coronation lake alongside coffee shops would attract me into the town if I had never been there. With a slogan of ' Helston, something to see and do all year round' alongside a logo that was plain and simple like a Lilly of the valley flower. (Not one that only resembles a Lilly of the valley flower sort of, if you stare at in the middle with a vivid imagination after drinking a couple of Baileys)
Iagree , the combined picture you suggested would be a much better idea. Simple, and showing what Helston has to offer ,rather than having to use your imagination staring at a logo, which even now i still can't see any resemblance to the middle of a lily of the valley flower!! (or anything else come to that).
[quote][p][bold]Gill Zella Martin 09[/bold] wrote: 'Achieving positive outcomes' can be difficult as everyone has different ideas, however, I personally would be more likely attracted to a town if the branding showed you something or told you something about what the town offers. A combined picture of Flora day, Christmas lights, the museum and Coronation lake alongside coffee shops would attract me into the town if I had never been there. With a slogan of ' Helston, something to see and do all year round' alongside a logo that was plain and simple like a Lilly of the valley flower. (Not one that only resembles a Lilly of the valley flower sort of, if you stare at in the middle with a vivid imagination after drinking a couple of Baileys)[/p][/quote]Iagree , the combined picture you suggested would be a much better idea. Simple, and showing what Helston has to offer ,rather than having to use your imagination staring at a logo, which even now i still can't see any resemblance to the middle of a lily of the valley flower!! (or anything else come to that). meerkats
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7:08pm Sat 15 Dec 12

meerkats says...

rwarwicker wrote:
How about
"Be a clown, visit Helston town". From a few times I've been to Helston would be silly like a clown to visit again.
very negative comment .
[quote][p][bold]rwarwicker[/bold] wrote: How about "Be a clown, visit Helston town". From a few times I've been to Helston would be silly like a clown to visit again.[/p][/quote]very negative comment . meerkats
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7:34pm Sat 15 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

Needs to be a four word word slogan so is unacceptable.
Needs to be a four word word slogan so is unacceptable. ronedgcumbe
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8:14pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

rwarwicker wrote:
How about
"Be a clown, visit Helston town". From a few times I've been to Helston would be silly like a clown to visit again.
Is that not rather a contradictory statement, because if you visited Helston a few times, then that means that you already visited again.
[quote][p][bold]rwarwicker[/bold] wrote: How about "Be a clown, visit Helston town". From a few times I've been to Helston would be silly like a clown to visit again.[/p][/quote]Is that not rather a contradictory statement, because if you visited Helston a few times, then that means that you already visited again. Gill Zella Martin 09
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8:17pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Four word slogan- power to the people.
Four word slogan- power to the people. Gill Zella Martin 09
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8:28pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

meerkats wrote:
Gill Zella Martin 09 wrote:
'Achieving positive outcomes' can be difficult as everyone has different ideas, however, I personally would be more likely attracted to a town if the branding showed you something or told you something about what the town offers. A combined picture of Flora day, Christmas lights, the museum and Coronation lake alongside coffee shops would attract me into the town if I had never been there. With a slogan of ' Helston, something to see and do all year round' alongside a logo that was plain and simple like a Lilly of the valley flower. (Not one that only resembles a Lilly of the valley flower sort of, if you stare at in the middle with a vivid imagination after drinking a couple of Baileys)
Iagree , the combined picture you suggested would be a much better idea. Simple, and showing what Helston has to offer ,rather than having to use your imagination staring at a logo, which even now i still can't see any resemblance to the middle of a lily of the valley flower!! (or anything else come to that).
I was in Carnon Downs garden centre today and saw a white Lilly flower and thought about the Helston logo and so i stared into the centre of the Lilly trying to visualise the inner shape of the Helston logo and the fact that it is supposed to mirror the image of the centre of a Lilly of the valley flower, however, all that happened was the flower dropped off.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Zella Martin 09[/bold] wrote: 'Achieving positive outcomes' can be difficult as everyone has different ideas, however, I personally would be more likely attracted to a town if the branding showed you something or told you something about what the town offers. A combined picture of Flora day, Christmas lights, the museum and Coronation lake alongside coffee shops would attract me into the town if I had never been there. With a slogan of ' Helston, something to see and do all year round' alongside a logo that was plain and simple like a Lilly of the valley flower. (Not one that only resembles a Lilly of the valley flower sort of, if you stare at in the middle with a vivid imagination after drinking a couple of Baileys)[/p][/quote]Iagree , the combined picture you suggested would be a much better idea. Simple, and showing what Helston has to offer ,rather than having to use your imagination staring at a logo, which even now i still can't see any resemblance to the middle of a lily of the valley flower!! (or anything else come to that).[/p][/quote]I was in Carnon Downs garden centre today and saw a white Lilly flower and thought about the Helston logo and so i stared into the centre of the Lilly trying to visualise the inner shape of the Helston logo and the fact that it is supposed to mirror the image of the centre of a Lilly of the valley flower, however, all that happened was the flower dropped off. Gill Zella Martin 09
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8:55pm Sat 15 Dec 12

rwarwicker says...

Gill Zella Martin 09 wrote:
rwarwicker wrote:
How about
"Be a clown, visit Helston town". From a few times I've been to Helston would be silly like a clown to visit again.
Is that not rather a contradictory statement, because if you visited Helston a few times, then that means that you already visited again.
Yes it is contradictory, as none of my other visits have been through my own choice, but enforced due to various reasons.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Zella Martin 09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rwarwicker[/bold] wrote: How about "Be a clown, visit Helston town". From a few times I've been to Helston would be silly like a clown to visit again.[/p][/quote]Is that not rather a contradictory statement, because if you visited Helston a few times, then that means that you already visited again.[/p][/quote]Yes it is contradictory, as none of my other visits have been through my own choice, but enforced due to various reasons. rwarwicker
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7:04am Sun 16 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

rwarwicker, I would be interested to know what your negative thoughts on Helston are, I believe it is always good to be open to constructive criticism and think that the town council and town management would maybe benefit from listening to feedback from visitors to the town, as should Falmouth, after all, there is in my opinion not much point pretending everything is fine if it isn't if they are trying to encourage people into the town.
rwarwicker, I would be interested to know what your negative thoughts on Helston are, I believe it is always good to be open to constructive criticism and think that the town council and town management would maybe benefit from listening to feedback from visitors to the town, as should Falmouth, after all, there is in my opinion not much point pretending everything is fine if it isn't if they are trying to encourage people into the town. Gill Zella Martin 09
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7:34am Sun 16 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

I know the HBIP and the town management team are trying to improve Helston and increase footfall in the town and the logo/slogan/branding is all part of trying to promote Helston here and internationally but I do think it is always best to try to aim wherever possible, to give people what they want rather than than what you think they should have. It is alright to a degree to sit in an office/meeting deciding what to do but I additionally think it is beneficial to get out on the streets and ascertain real opinions and feedback from visitors to a town and local people. Generally speaking it is local people that support the town shops all year round as opposed to just during the tourist season and therefore I believe they should be listened to. We know best attitude may work to a certain degree but if people vote with their feet and shop elsewhere then what long term would have been achieved by spending money that all of Helston/Falmouth residents should have had a say in regarding their respective towns. Never mind a vote on a logo choice how about a vote on various options on how the money should be spent.
I know the HBIP and the town management team are trying to improve Helston and increase footfall in the town and the logo/slogan/branding is all part of trying to promote Helston here and internationally but I do think it is always best to try to aim wherever possible, to give people what they want rather than than what you think they should have. It is alright to a degree to sit in an office/meeting deciding what to do but I additionally think it is beneficial to get out on the streets and ascertain real opinions and feedback from visitors to a town and local people. Generally speaking it is local people that support the town shops all year round as opposed to just during the tourist season and therefore I believe they should be listened to. We know best attitude may work to a certain degree but if people vote with their feet and shop elsewhere then what long term would have been achieved by spending money that all of Helston/Falmouth residents should have had a say in regarding their respective towns. Never mind a vote on a logo choice how about a vote on various options on how the money should be spent. Gill Zella Martin 09
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8:51am Sun 16 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

I vote we stop wasting money on employing people we dont need.
I also vote we increase footfall in the town by making more free parking in coinagehall street and the trengrouse way car park free for the first two hours.We will then have a level playing field with the supermarkets which is what the money was intended for.
I vote we stop wasting money on employing people we dont need. I also vote we increase footfall in the town by making more free parking in coinagehall street and the trengrouse way car park free for the first two hours.We will then have a level playing field with the supermarkets which is what the money was intended for. ronedgcumbe
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9:33am Sun 16 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
I vote we stop wasting money on employing people we dont need.
I also vote we increase footfall in the town by making more free parking in coinagehall street and the trengrouse way car park free for the first two hours.We will then have a level playing field with the supermarkets which is what the money was intended for.
I think if anything, they should compromise and only employ one apprentice on a trial basis. I do agree Ron that free parking is really the only thing that would make it a level playing field with the supermarkets. Porthleven is good because a pound covers all day which I am quite happy to pay, the point being is that I am not clock watching then worrying about the car park if I decide to stay longer. Very often if I am am going home from somewhere further afield I will go through Porthleven and pick up my shopping in Cost Cutters and any other shopping/take away meal because the parking is easier and cheaper than Helston.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: I vote we stop wasting money on employing people we dont need. I also vote we increase footfall in the town by making more free parking in coinagehall street and the trengrouse way car park free for the first two hours.We will then have a level playing field with the supermarkets which is what the money was intended for.[/p][/quote]I think if anything, they should compromise and only employ one apprentice on a trial basis. I do agree Ron that free parking is really the only thing that would make it a level playing field with the supermarkets. Porthleven is good because a pound covers all day which I am quite happy to pay, the point being is that I am not clock watching then worrying about the car park if I decide to stay longer. Very often if I am am going home from somewhere further afield I will go through Porthleven and pick up my shopping in Cost Cutters and any other shopping/take away meal because the parking is easier and cheaper than Helston. Gill Zella Martin 09
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11:49am Sun 16 Dec 12

meerkats says...

FRIENDS OF JOHN BOASE wrote:
This is the best the group of us can come up with:

FREELOADER BOOZE SACKED

TOWN LEAPS AHEAD

6 words that exactly summaries what has been happening to our lovely Town.
With friends like you, who needs enemies. here we go yet again.
[quote][p][bold]FRIENDS OF JOHN BOASE[/bold] wrote: This is the best the group of us can come up with: FREELOADER BOOZE SACKED TOWN LEAPS AHEAD 6 words that exactly summaries what has been happening to our lovely Town.[/p][/quote]With friends like you, who needs enemies. here we go yet again. meerkats
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12:10pm Sun 16 Dec 12

The Good Shepheard says...

I think you are reaching the wrong conclusions meerkats.

This group, whoever they are, were extremely vocal about supporting John Boase, trashing anyone who posted a less than flattering comment. They lobbied very hard and applied enormous pressure to get two councillors to change their mind, which they eventually did,
and thus he was re-elected by the slimmest of majorities. So in that sense they were his strongest supporters.

However when he lost the vote of no confidence, and then was found to have broken his own code of conduct, abd with the fiasco over his Masonic links, they clearly decided enough was enough and began to call for him to go.

I think to dismiss this group, who obviously were operating with Boase support and encouragement, is a mistake.

They clearly know a lot more about the situation than us outsiders, but I would be very interested to hear, if they want to, as to why they had this complete change of heart.
I think you are reaching the wrong conclusions meerkats. This group, whoever they are, were extremely vocal about supporting John Boase, trashing anyone who posted a less than flattering comment. They lobbied very hard and applied enormous pressure to get two councillors to change their mind, which they eventually did, and thus he was re-elected by the slimmest of majorities. So in that sense they were his strongest supporters. However when he lost the vote of no confidence, and then was found to have broken his own code of conduct, abd with the fiasco over his Masonic links, they clearly decided enough was enough and began to call for him to go. I think to dismiss this group, who obviously were operating with Boase support and encouragement, is a mistake. They clearly know a lot more about the situation than us outsiders, but I would be very interested to hear, if they want to, as to why they had this complete change of heart. The Good Shepheard
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1:00pm Sun 16 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

It dosnt matter why they changed their mind about supporting Mr Boase, it still gives no reason to make personal derogatory comments about someone, particularly months later. I read all the original comments that they posted and the reason they gave for withdrawing their support and some of which may still remain in the archives of the articles on this website. Mr Boase is the one that has had the decency and intelligence never to retaliate to those people that insult him.
It dosnt matter why they changed their mind about supporting Mr Boase, it still gives no reason to make personal derogatory comments about someone, particularly months later. I read all the original comments that they posted and the reason they gave for withdrawing their support and some of which may still remain in the archives of the articles on this website. Mr Boase is the one that has had the decency and intelligence never to retaliate to those people that insult him. Gill Zella Martin 09
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1:20pm Sun 16 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

I don't think meerkats is reaching the wrong conclusion at all.

I personally would not be influenced by the opinions of anyone that cannot hold a rational debate without making personal derogatory comments to someone, at least not if they did not apologize.
I don't think meerkats is reaching the wrong conclusion at all. I personally would not be influenced by the opinions of anyone that cannot hold a rational debate without making personal derogatory comments to someone, at least not if they did not apologize. Gill Zella Martin 09
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1:24pm Sun 16 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

If people are treated like this In Helston, they will have a problem promoting it.
If people are treated like this In Helston, they will have a problem promoting it. Gill Zella Martin 09
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2:46pm Sun 16 Dec 12

meerkats says...

The Good Shepheard wrote:
I think you are reaching the wrong conclusions meerkats.

This group, whoever they are, were extremely vocal about supporting John Boase, trashing anyone who posted a less than flattering comment. They lobbied very hard and applied enormous pressure to get two councillors to change their mind, which they eventually did,
and thus he was re-elected by the slimmest of majorities. So in that sense they were his strongest supporters.

However when he lost the vote of no confidence, and then was found to have broken his own code of conduct, abd with the fiasco over his Masonic links, they clearly decided enough was enough and began to call for him to go.

I think to dismiss this group, who obviously were operating with Boase support and encouragement, is a mistake.

They clearly know a lot more about the situation than us outsiders, but I would be very interested to hear, if they want to, as to why they had this complete change of heart.
I dont think i have jumped to the wrong conclusion , perhaps the Friends of John Boase can explain their comment.
[quote][p][bold]The Good Shepheard[/bold] wrote: I think you are reaching the wrong conclusions meerkats. This group, whoever they are, were extremely vocal about supporting John Boase, trashing anyone who posted a less than flattering comment. They lobbied very hard and applied enormous pressure to get two councillors to change their mind, which they eventually did, and thus he was re-elected by the slimmest of majorities. So in that sense they were his strongest supporters. However when he lost the vote of no confidence, and then was found to have broken his own code of conduct, abd with the fiasco over his Masonic links, they clearly decided enough was enough and began to call for him to go. I think to dismiss this group, who obviously were operating with Boase support and encouragement, is a mistake. They clearly know a lot more about the situation than us outsiders, but I would be very interested to hear, if they want to, as to why they had this complete change of heart.[/p][/quote]I dont think i have jumped to the wrong conclusion , perhaps the Friends of John Boase can explain their comment. meerkats
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5:01pm Sun 16 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

The Good Shepheard wrote:
I think you are reaching the wrong conclusions meerkats.

This group, whoever they are, were extremely vocal about supporting John Boase, trashing anyone who posted a less than flattering comment. They lobbied very hard and applied enormous pressure to get two councillors to change their mind, which they eventually did,
and thus he was re-elected by the slimmest of majorities. So in that sense they were his strongest supporters.

However when he lost the vote of no confidence, and then was found to have broken his own code of conduct, abd with the fiasco over his Masonic links, they clearly decided enough was enough and began to call for him to go.

I think to dismiss this group, who obviously were operating with Boase support and encouragement, is a mistake.

They clearly know a lot more about the situation than us outsiders, but I would be very interested to hear, if they want to, as to why they had this complete change of heart.
The Good Shepheard mentions the code of conduct.

Cornwall Council 'hearings' into the code of conduct that could be dealt with 'in house' within local town councils cost the local tax payers hundreds of pounds unnecessarily. Therefore may I suggest that next time anyone is considering bringing about about a code of conduct hearing, they ask themselves is it really worth the cost to the tax payer and are they doing it for the right reasons, or subjective reasons, because I very much doubt anyone likes tax payers money wasted, particularly if it were to be instigated by a town councillor.

I thought the new Helston logo/slogan was supposed to be Positive People, Perfect Place.
[quote][p][bold]The Good Shepheard[/bold] wrote: I think you are reaching the wrong conclusions meerkats. This group, whoever they are, were extremely vocal about supporting John Boase, trashing anyone who posted a less than flattering comment. They lobbied very hard and applied enormous pressure to get two councillors to change their mind, which they eventually did, and thus he was re-elected by the slimmest of majorities. So in that sense they were his strongest supporters. However when he lost the vote of no confidence, and then was found to have broken his own code of conduct, abd with the fiasco over his Masonic links, they clearly decided enough was enough and began to call for him to go. I think to dismiss this group, who obviously were operating with Boase support and encouragement, is a mistake. They clearly know a lot more about the situation than us outsiders, but I would be very interested to hear, if they want to, as to why they had this complete change of heart.[/p][/quote]The Good Shepheard mentions the code of conduct. Cornwall Council 'hearings' into the code of conduct that could be dealt with 'in house' within local town councils cost the local tax payers hundreds of pounds unnecessarily. Therefore may I suggest that next time anyone is considering bringing about about a code of conduct hearing, they ask themselves is it really worth the cost to the tax payer and are they doing it for the right reasons, or subjective reasons, because I very much doubt anyone likes tax payers money wasted, particularly if it were to be instigated by a town councillor. I thought the new Helston logo/slogan was supposed to be Positive People, Perfect Place. Gill Zella Martin 09
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8:49pm Sun 16 Dec 12

helztonboy says...

with all of your wonderful positive comments and ideas I'm looking forward to seeing you all put yourself up for election for the next town council, or maybe volunteer to help the BIP by joining their committees
with all of your wonderful positive comments and ideas I'm looking forward to seeing you all put yourself up for election for the next town council, or maybe volunteer to help the BIP by joining their committees helztonboy
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9:42pm Sun 16 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

You can certainly put me down for the first option. I just hope that overs will join me and we can have a proper town council fully elected by the people of the town with a mandate to move the town forward to what it deserves too be.
You can certainly put me down for the first option. I just hope that overs will join me and we can have a proper town council fully elected by the people of the town with a mandate to move the town forward to what it deserves too be. ronedgcumbe
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7:42am Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

helztonboy wrote:
with all of your wonderful positive comments and ideas I'm looking forward to seeing you all put yourself up for election for the next town council, or maybe volunteer to help the BIP by joining their committees
The comments on this article reflect the decision that has already been made for the branding by the town manager, therefore I wouldn't really expect to find any ideas on here, only opinions on the branding, although Ron has come up with some good ones re parking etc. I personally do not think you need large committees with some paid members necessarily to achieve things, take a look at Cornwall Council, you have the cabinet that make most of the decisions (and probably money) to the detriment of the opinions of the majority of the rest of the councillors, luckily enough, that is about to change in the near future. I therefore think it is all about the BIP and the town management team engaging and listening to the residents of Helston, obviously someone has to make a final decision, and if you hire a town manager then you have to let him manage, but, to me the branding idea was not explained to the public properly up front nor were the public opinions taken very much into consideration. It is after all the public that they are trying to encourage into Helston to shop. I think Ron would make a good councillor because he seems to want to sort out the basics first. I am not saying the BIP is not a good idea, however, what I am saying is that any ideas they come up with or the town management team come up with would be better put to the public first and ascertaining the general consensus and additionally not having secret meetings to discuss possibilities of taking on apprentices and the like.
[quote][p][bold]helztonboy[/bold] wrote: with all of your wonderful positive comments and ideas I'm looking forward to seeing you all put yourself up for election for the next town council, or maybe volunteer to help the BIP by joining their committees[/p][/quote]The comments on this article reflect the decision that has already been made for the branding by the town manager, therefore I wouldn't really expect to find any ideas on here, only opinions on the branding, although Ron has come up with some good ones re parking etc. I personally do not think you need large committees with some paid members necessarily to achieve things, take a look at Cornwall Council, you have the cabinet that make most of the decisions (and probably money) to the detriment of the opinions of the majority of the rest of the councillors, luckily enough, that is about to change in the near future. I therefore think it is all about the BIP and the town management team engaging and listening to the residents of Helston, obviously someone has to make a final decision, and if you hire a town manager then you have to let him manage, but, to me the branding idea was not explained to the public properly up front nor were the public opinions taken very much into consideration. It is after all the public that they are trying to encourage into Helston to shop. I think Ron would make a good councillor because he seems to want to sort out the basics first. I am not saying the BIP is not a good idea, however, what I am saying is that any ideas they come up with or the town management team come up with would be better put to the public first and ascertaining the general consensus and additionally not having secret meetings to discuss possibilities of taking on apprentices and the like. Gill Zella Martin 09
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11:00am Mon 17 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

we live in a modern democracy,whereby under a s106 agreement, huge monopolies donated a meagre proportion of their profits to help a poor,decimated Cornish Town fight the effects of their domination and stranglehold.

the news article said

''Now the branding has been decided it will be used to promote Helston nationally and internationally''

Everyone connected with spending the Supermarkets filthy lucre should concentrate on getting local people in to the Town Centre first, then worry about visitors from Stratford and New York last.
we live in a modern democracy,whereby under a s106 agreement, huge monopolies donated a meagre proportion of their profits to help a poor,decimated Cornish Town fight the effects of their domination and stranglehold. the news article said ''Now the branding has been decided it will be used to promote Helston nationally and internationally'' Everyone connected with spending the Supermarkets filthy lucre should concentrate on getting local people in to the Town Centre first, then worry about visitors from Stratford and New York last. telstar1962
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12:58pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

What we have is people fund raising to white wash the walls to improve the look of the town which in turn could encourage people to return to the town if they turn up and it looks lovely and clean and painted up. It is all very well saying the section 106 money has restrictions on it, yes it does to a degree but painting the town up to me is no different to some of the other things the section 106 money is to be spent on, it all seems a little selective to me, so therefore why couldn't some of the money have been spent on white washing the walls, cleaning the kennels etc. If I visit other places and they look run down then I probably would not return whereas if they look clean/painted and cared for it would encourage me to return. I think it is brilliant and very commendable what the voluntary group are doing in trying to raise money to get the walls painted up, however I think it is wrong that the section 106 money could not have helped towards it . The look of the town is a contributary factor as to whether or not it encourages people in. The supermarkets are painted up and look clean and smart and if the town isn't then surely that constitutes a detrimental effect on town trade, because it gives them another added advantage over the town along with their free parking.
What we have is people fund raising to white wash the walls to improve the look of the town which in turn could encourage people to return to the town if they turn up and it looks lovely and clean and painted up. It is all very well saying the section 106 money has restrictions on it, yes it does to a degree but painting the town up to me is no different to some of the other things the section 106 money is to be spent on, it all seems a little selective to me, so therefore why couldn't some of the money have been spent on white washing the walls, cleaning the kennels etc. If I visit other places and they look run down then I probably would not return whereas if they look clean/painted and cared for it would encourage me to return. I think it is brilliant and very commendable what the voluntary group are doing in trying to raise money to get the walls painted up, however I think it is wrong that the section 106 money could not have helped towards it . The look of the town is a contributary factor as to whether or not it encourages people in. The supermarkets are painted up and look clean and smart and if the town isn't then surely that constitutes a detrimental effect on town trade, because it gives them another added advantage over the town along with their free parking. Gill Zella Martin 09
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1:45pm Mon 17 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

It is noticable that the grass verges or lawns which the supermarkets are responsible for are always neatly maintained, in stark contrast to the overgrown,weed-strew
n grass verges which are the responsibility of Cornwall Council.

It is not all about money, but having pride in your local community ( what do Truro or Camborne office staff care what the outskirts of Helston looks like?)

My post was more about making it easy for residents to shop in Town, than spending time and effort enticing customers from 'up country' or from 'across the globe'

Get it right for your own citizens first, then concentrate on the rest of the world
It is noticable that the grass verges or lawns which the supermarkets are responsible for are always neatly maintained, in stark contrast to the overgrown,weed-strew n grass verges which are the responsibility of Cornwall Council. It is not all about money, but having pride in your local community ( what do Truro or Camborne office staff care what the outskirts of Helston looks like?) My post was more about making it easy for residents to shop in Town, than spending time and effort enticing customers from 'up country' or from 'across the globe' Get it right for your own citizens first, then concentrate on the rest of the world telstar1962
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2:08pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

I agree it is not always about money but having pride in your local community, however, many projects cost money, and it is seems a bit unfair for people to have to fund raise entirely, to white wash the walls when there is all that 106 money. I additionally agree it is more important to concentrate on getting the local trade into Helston, after all, it is mainly the locals that support the shops all year round. How many holiday makers go into Helston and buy a tin of paint or an armchair or order some carpet etc
I agree it is not always about money but having pride in your local community, however, many projects cost money, and it is seems a bit unfair for people to have to fund raise entirely, to white wash the walls when there is all that 106 money. I additionally agree it is more important to concentrate on getting the local trade into Helston, after all, it is mainly the locals that support the shops all year round. How many holiday makers go into Helston and buy a tin of paint or an armchair or order some carpet etc Gill Zella Martin 09
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3:21pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

One way of encouraging people to shop in Helston from the outlying villages in my opinion is to make sure the bus services which are contracted by Cornwall Council are reliable. The town manager previously informed me in a reply email, words to the effect "he is not responsible for buses" I was already aware of that but I had thought some input from him might have been beneficial. However, not one to let things go, I had a meeting with the customer services manager for Wales and the South West from Bristol which was very productive, and to give credit where due there has been a lot of issues resolved, Cornwall Council Passenger Transport Unit have also been brilliant. I know of a lot of people from the outlying villages that like to visit Helston town and rely on the buses, so I do think that one way to encourage people to shop in Helston town is to ask them what would encourage them to and to try to address those issues. I personally have bought a car now again so can shop further afield if I choose, but maybe if someone had helped address the bus service issue sooner I may not have got fed up. My point being in all of this is how many more people will not shop in Helston because of various issues that are important to them that are just not being addressed or even maybe discussed such as ronedgecumbe says about free parking. I really think people need to listen to the public or the public will go elsewhere, I know supermarket shopping is a financial choice for many people including myself but there is usually scope to support the town centre as well. I know the Helston BIP are working hard to address issues in Helston as are the town council but to suggest the employment of three more town management team paid members without explaining to the public in detail why they are required is a mistake in my opinion. Yes we on this website know why they want them but how many more members of the public do?
One way of encouraging people to shop in Helston from the outlying villages in my opinion is to make sure the bus services which are contracted by Cornwall Council are reliable. The town manager previously informed me in a reply email, words to the effect "he is not responsible for buses" I was already aware of that but I had thought some input from him might have been beneficial. However, not one to let things go, I had a meeting with the customer services manager for Wales and the South West from Bristol which was very productive, and to give credit where due there has been a lot of issues resolved, Cornwall Council Passenger Transport Unit have also been brilliant. I know of a lot of people from the outlying villages that like to visit Helston town and rely on the buses, so I do think that one way to encourage people to shop in Helston town is to ask them what would encourage them to and to try to address those issues. I personally have bought a car now again so can shop further afield if I choose, but maybe if someone had helped address the bus service issue sooner I may not have got fed up. My point being in all of this is how many more people will not shop in Helston because of various issues that are important to them that are just not being addressed or even maybe discussed such as ronedgecumbe says about free parking. I really think people need to listen to the public or the public will go elsewhere, I know supermarket shopping is a financial choice for many people including myself but there is usually scope to support the town centre as well. I know the Helston BIP are working hard to address issues in Helston as are the town council but to suggest the employment of three more town management team paid members without explaining to the public in detail why they are required is a mistake in my opinion. Yes we on this website know why they want them but how many more members of the public do? Gill Zella Martin 09
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4:29pm Mon 17 Dec 12

meerkats says...

i am surprised that there hasnt been free parking in the run up to christmas. It would have encouraged people into the town. I do think also that the t c need to keep the public more informed of things ,.if everyone pulled together it would be a step towards making Helston the perfect place it strives to be..
i am surprised that there hasnt been free parking in the run up to christmas. It would have encouraged people into the town. I do think also that the t c need to keep the public more informed of things ,.if everyone pulled together it would be a step towards making Helston the perfect place it strives to be.. meerkats
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5:39pm Mon 17 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

GZM makes sense ( as usual )

1. Park and Ride from supermarkets,or land near to Premier Inn to Town Centre ?

2. A trial free bus service for everyone for certain days leading up to Christmas ?

3.Free parking on certain days before Christmas?

Just three ideas which could be explored. No doubt the problem being red-tape and bureaucracy ?

But if we now have positive people,and are widely advertising this fact,then someone should be pushing for the redevelopment of the land opposite the Premier Inn, to bring businesses or a small shopping mall to the outskirts of town.

I sent an e-mail to the Town Clerk some time ago which was not responded to, suggesting the derelict land should be looked at again for other purposes other than what has already been agreed.

In many other towns, having new development in the area actually helps and stimulates other small businesses, if set up correctly.

A small out-of-town shopping area,with controlled free parking, a transport shuttle to and from the town centre etc etc

These are just some of my ideas as a positive person, and if the larger project as described is a non-starter, then at least would somebody reading this from the various interested parties, HBIP,Focus Groups,Breakfast Clubs, Town Council,Town Mayor, Town Centre Manager, Town Centre Manager's Secretary, Town Centre Manager's Apprentices, Town Councillors, County Councillors, Business Owners,Church Leaders,Bus Operators,.... take note of a couple of the simple things as described above, and try them in 12 months time ?
GZM makes sense ( as usual ) 1. Park and Ride from supermarkets,or land near to Premier Inn to Town Centre ? 2. A trial free bus service for everyone for certain days leading up to Christmas ? 3.Free parking on certain days before Christmas? Just three ideas which could be explored. No doubt the problem being red-tape and bureaucracy ? But if we now have positive people,and are widely advertising this fact,then someone should be pushing for the redevelopment of the land opposite the Premier Inn, to bring businesses or a small shopping mall to the outskirts of town. I sent an e-mail to the Town Clerk some time ago which was not responded to, suggesting the derelict land should be looked at again for other purposes other than what has already been agreed. In many other towns, having new development in the area actually helps and stimulates other small businesses, if set up correctly. A small out-of-town shopping area,with controlled free parking, a transport shuttle to and from the town centre etc etc These are just some of my ideas as a positive person, and if the larger project as described is a non-starter, then at least would somebody reading this from the various interested parties, HBIP,Focus Groups,Breakfast Clubs, Town Council,Town Mayor, Town Centre Manager, Town Centre Manager's Secretary, Town Centre Manager's Apprentices, Town Councillors, County Councillors, Business Owners,Church Leaders,Bus Operators,.... take note of a couple of the simple things as described above, and try them in 12 months time ? telstar1962
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6:03pm Mon 17 Dec 12

meerkats says...

telstar1962 wrote:
GZM makes sense ( as usual )

1. Park and Ride from supermarkets,or land near to Premier Inn to Town Centre ?

2. A trial free bus service for everyone for certain days leading up to Christmas ?

3.Free parking on certain days before Christmas?

Just three ideas which could be explored. No doubt the problem being red-tape and bureaucracy ?

But if we now have positive people,and are widely advertising this fact,then someone should be pushing for the redevelopment of the land opposite the Premier Inn, to bring businesses or a small shopping mall to the outskirts of town.

I sent an e-mail to the Town Clerk some time ago which was not responded to, suggesting the derelict land should be looked at again for other purposes other than what has already been agreed.

In many other towns, having new development in the area actually helps and stimulates other small businesses, if set up correctly.

A small out-of-town shopping area,with controlled free parking, a transport shuttle to and from the town centre etc etc

These are just some of my ideas as a positive person, and if the larger project as described is a non-starter, then at least would somebody reading this from the various interested parties, HBIP,Focus Groups,Breakfast Clubs, Town Council,Town Mayor, Town Centre Manager, Town Centre Manager's Secretary, Town Centre Manager's Apprentices, Town Councillors, County Councillors, Business Owners,Church Leaders,Bus Operators,.... take note of a couple of the simple things as described above, and try them in 12 months time ?
i agree re the derelict land near the Premier Inn being put to use as at the moment it seems to be used for a dog walking area, A retail park would be ideal .like the idea too of the shuttle service, i believe that they have one at Falmouth which has proved very popular. Positive people coming up with good ideas , lets hope someone takes notice.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: GZM makes sense ( as usual ) 1. Park and Ride from supermarkets,or land near to Premier Inn to Town Centre ? 2. A trial free bus service for everyone for certain days leading up to Christmas ? 3.Free parking on certain days before Christmas? Just three ideas which could be explored. No doubt the problem being red-tape and bureaucracy ? But if we now have positive people,and are widely advertising this fact,then someone should be pushing for the redevelopment of the land opposite the Premier Inn, to bring businesses or a small shopping mall to the outskirts of town. I sent an e-mail to the Town Clerk some time ago which was not responded to, suggesting the derelict land should be looked at again for other purposes other than what has already been agreed. In many other towns, having new development in the area actually helps and stimulates other small businesses, if set up correctly. A small out-of-town shopping area,with controlled free parking, a transport shuttle to and from the town centre etc etc These are just some of my ideas as a positive person, and if the larger project as described is a non-starter, then at least would somebody reading this from the various interested parties, HBIP,Focus Groups,Breakfast Clubs, Town Council,Town Mayor, Town Centre Manager, Town Centre Manager's Secretary, Town Centre Manager's Apprentices, Town Councillors, County Councillors, Business Owners,Church Leaders,Bus Operators,.... take note of a couple of the simple things as described above, and try them in 12 months time ?[/p][/quote]i agree re the derelict land near the Premier Inn being put to use as at the moment it seems to be used for a dog walking area, A retail park would be ideal .like the idea too of the shuttle service, i believe that they have one at Falmouth which has proved very popular. Positive people coming up with good ideas , lets hope someone takes notice. meerkats
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6:12pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Telstar, excellent idea, a park and ride into the town from the supermarkets or Premier Inn, Premier Inn may have more restricted parking spaces though. Can't see why it couldn't be done from Tescos though, although they have camera operated car park limited to three hours so that would have to be altered. Could do it from the Fairground car park seeing as that is council owned.
Telstar, excellent idea, a park and ride into the town from the supermarkets or Premier Inn, Premier Inn may have more restricted parking spaces though. Can't see why it couldn't be done from Tescos though, although they have camera operated car park limited to three hours so that would have to be altered. Could do it from the Fairground car park seeing as that is council owned. Gill Zella Martin 09
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6:34pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

I doubt Cornwall Councillors would like the idea in case they lost revenue from their car parks but then we would have to teach them how to be positive people and how they could start charging for the Fairground car park and with the money they make on that subsidise the in town council car parks and make them a pound all day the same as Porthleven.
I doubt Cornwall Councillors would like the idea in case they lost revenue from their car parks but then we would have to teach them how to be positive people and how they could start charging for the Fairground car park and with the money they make on that subsidise the in town council car parks and make them a pound all day the same as Porthleven. Gill Zella Martin 09
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6:34pm Mon 17 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

But Zella, if Tesco do not just want to pay lip-service to their ''we want to be a good neighbour and run a business that is responsible, honest and fair.", then they could be involved. Just handing over £400,000 and washing their hands, is not good enough.

A partnership between the supermarkets and all the groups in Town. Are the supermarkets involved in all the Clubs and Groups recently set up to help the Town ?

If not, why not ?

The park and ride could be operated from numerous locations
But Zella, if Tesco do not just want to pay lip-service to their ''we want to be a good neighbour and run a business that is responsible, honest and fair.", then they could be involved. Just handing over £400,000 and washing their hands, is not good enough. A partnership between the supermarkets and all the groups in Town. Are the supermarkets involved in all the Clubs and Groups recently set up to help the Town ? If not, why not ? The park and ride could be operated from numerous locations telstar1962
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6:40pm Mon 17 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

The object of the exercise is to have a lively, vibrant Town Centre which is easier to get in and out of. If the occupancy rate for business premises was nearer 100% then Cornwall Council would be receiving lots more NDR (Business Rates) and could then readjust their targets for car parking fees
The object of the exercise is to have a lively, vibrant Town Centre which is easier to get in and out of. If the occupancy rate for business premises was nearer 100% then Cornwall Council would be receiving lots more NDR (Business Rates) and could then readjust their targets for car parking fees telstar1962
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6:50pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

telstar you are right about Tesco and their 'claim'. However, I think they already went against that when they introduced cameras in the car park, because with the old Tesco car park I know of people that did their shopping in Tescos then left their car in the car park and walked down the town to do additional shopping/ have coffee/ lunch etc. Tescos have put a stop to this by the introduction of cameras. Maybe this should have been discussed at point of planning permission.
telstar you are right about Tesco and their 'claim'. However, I think they already went against that when they introduced cameras in the car park, because with the old Tesco car park I know of people that did their shopping in Tescos then left their car in the car park and walked down the town to do additional shopping/ have coffee/ lunch etc. Tescos have put a stop to this by the introduction of cameras. Maybe this should have been discussed at point of planning permission. Gill Zella Martin 09
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7:14pm Mon 17 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

What you have just stated Zella, is all the more reason why management of supermarkets should be in constant communication with local representatives of businesses in Town.

With a capacity of 480 spaces in Tesco's new car park, there will always be a minority who abuse, but I have never seen every space occupied

Is anyone aware if people on the various organizations I listed on a previous post actually read this site ?
What you have just stated Zella, is all the more reason why management of supermarkets should be in constant communication with local representatives of businesses in Town. With a capacity of 480 spaces in Tesco's new car park, there will always be a minority who abuse, but I have never seen every space occupied Is anyone aware if people on the various organizations I listed on a previous post actually read this site ? telstar1962
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7:30pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Well it has been proven telstar that at least one member of the HBIP reads this website as he has interacted with commenters and posted comments himself in the past.
Well it has been proven telstar that at least one member of the HBIP reads this website as he has interacted with commenters and posted comments himself in the past. Gill Zella Martin 09
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7:34pm Mon 17 Dec 12

meerkats says...

telstar1962 wrote:
The object of the exercise is to have a lively, vibrant Town Centre which is easier to get in and out of. If the occupancy rate for business premises was nearer 100% then Cornwall Council would be receiving lots more NDR (Business Rates) and could then readjust their targets for car parking fees
Good comment once again, went to Penzance on Saturday and it was really busy ,it would be lovely to see Helston like this. Instead of logos and slogans ,get the town back to a lovely shopping area like it used to be.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: The object of the exercise is to have a lively, vibrant Town Centre which is easier to get in and out of. If the occupancy rate for business premises was nearer 100% then Cornwall Council would be receiving lots more NDR (Business Rates) and could then readjust their targets for car parking fees[/p][/quote]Good comment once again, went to Penzance on Saturday and it was really busy ,it would be lovely to see Helston like this. Instead of logos and slogans ,get the town back to a lovely shopping area like it used to be. meerkats
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7:37pm Mon 17 Dec 12

meerkats says...

The Original Delboy regularly leaves comments on this website he is a member of HBIP
The Original Delboy regularly leaves comments on this website he is a member of HBIP meerkats
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8:00pm Mon 17 Dec 12

helztonboy says...

just a thought..
you mention Penzance was busy and it would be nice to see Helston busy like it.

If you and others were shopping in Helston rather than in Penzance then Helston would be busier!

There is no magic wand and shops wont come just because we would like them to, they come to busy towns to make money, more people coming to Helston to use what's already there will attract new shops.

From what I can see the BIP are doing their best, its now down to the shoppers to start using the town more.

parking appears to be an excuse, its only a £1 for two hours, I bet most of us could save that by using the local shops. Or better still rather than overspending at the supermarkets and falling for their super 2 for 3 deals and then throwing it away when its out of date, buy locally and just buy what you need.

its up to us as shoppers to change things and improve Helston.

dont take the easy option and buy everything in the supermarkets,
why not use the fruit and veg shop and buy one or two locally grow apples rather than a big bag of South African apples which you might throw a few away?
why not use the butchers and buy some local meat rather than getting a ready meal?
why not buy a small loaf of locally made bread rather than artificial bread in a long life bag?
why not use the 'tub' shop and many products cheaper and in the quantities you really want and need?
why not use the sweet shop in town and buy local fudge rather than a multipack of cheap sweet chocolate?

Why not use the town, because if you dont more businesses will close and things will get worse.
Use it and more shops will come.
Dont be lazy, spend a pound in the car parks and save your town!
just a thought.. you mention Penzance was busy and it would be nice to see Helston busy like it. If you and others were shopping in Helston rather than in Penzance then Helston would be busier! There is no magic wand and shops wont come just because we would like them to, they come to busy towns to make money, more people coming to Helston to use what's already there will attract new shops. From what I can see the BIP are doing their best, its now down to the shoppers to start using the town more. parking appears to be an excuse, its only a £1 for two hours, I bet most of us could save that by using the local shops. Or better still rather than overspending at the supermarkets and falling for their super 2 for 3 deals and then throwing it away when its out of date, buy locally and just buy what you need. its up to us as shoppers to change things and improve Helston. dont take the easy option and buy everything in the supermarkets, why not use the fruit and veg shop and buy one or two locally grow apples rather than a big bag of South African apples which you might throw a few away? why not use the butchers and buy some local meat rather than getting a ready meal? why not buy a small loaf of locally made bread rather than artificial bread in a long life bag? why not use the 'tub' shop and many products cheaper and in the quantities you really want and need? why not use the sweet shop in town and buy local fudge rather than a multipack of cheap sweet chocolate? Why not use the town, because if you dont more businesses will close and things will get worse. Use it and more shops will come. Dont be lazy, spend a pound in the car parks and save your town! helztonboy
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8:16pm Mon 17 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

Well said, Helztonboy.

That's exactly what I've done for the last two years, and found I do not need to shop at Tesco.

Strange but true

A few more of you should try it. It works and in the long run you save money shopping local

A park n ride would encourage shoppers to do the same. It just needs a nudge in the right direction, because shoppers have been brainwashed into thinking that Tesco is all they need
Well said, Helztonboy. That's exactly what I've done for the last two years, and found I do not need to shop at Tesco. Strange but true A few more of you should try it. It works and in the long run you save money shopping local A park n ride would encourage shoppers to do the same. It just needs a nudge in the right direction, because shoppers have been brainwashed into thinking that Tesco is all they need telstar1962
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8:23pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

helztonboy wrote:
just a thought..
you mention Penzance was busy and it would be nice to see Helston busy like it.

If you and others were shopping in Helston rather than in Penzance then Helston would be busier!

There is no magic wand and shops wont come just because we would like them to, they come to busy towns to make money, more people coming to Helston to use what's already there will attract new shops.

From what I can see the BIP are doing their best, its now down to the shoppers to start using the town more.

parking appears to be an excuse, its only a £1 for two hours, I bet most of us could save that by using the local shops. Or better still rather than overspending at the supermarkets and falling for their super 2 for 3 deals and then throwing it away when its out of date, buy locally and just buy what you need.

its up to us as shoppers to change things and improve Helston.

dont take the easy option and buy everything in the supermarkets,
why not use the fruit and veg shop and buy one or two locally grow apples rather than a big bag of South African apples which you might throw a few away?
why not use the butchers and buy some local meat rather than getting a ready meal?
why not buy a small loaf of locally made bread rather than artificial bread in a long life bag?
why not use the 'tub' shop and many products cheaper and in the quantities you really want and need?
why not use the sweet shop in town and buy local fudge rather than a multipack of cheap sweet chocolate?

Why not use the town, because if you dont more businesses will close and things will get worse.
Use it and more shops will come.
Dont be lazy, spend a pound in the car parks and save your town!
I shop in Helston regularly, Oliver's butchers, WHS, Super Drug, Boots, Factory shop, jewellers for repairs, Williams, furniture, flooring., sweets newspapers, the post office, independent shops etc, bearing in mind I live in a outlying village and support the village shops as well, plus Porthleven shops seeing as I spend a lot of time there. I am not lazy and am quite happy to pay a pound for parking. However, I face reality and there are a lot of people that will not pay for parking and there are a lot of people that rely on buses and there are bus shelters at the supermarkets there are none in the town. I listen to what others want out of a town. To suggest that people they are lazy is not in my opinion the best way to promote Helston. Other people do have to visit other towns for hospitals and work commitments as well and therefore may shop while they are there. I personally think it is not wise to judge people or their circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]helztonboy[/bold] wrote: just a thought.. you mention Penzance was busy and it would be nice to see Helston busy like it. If you and others were shopping in Helston rather than in Penzance then Helston would be busier! There is no magic wand and shops wont come just because we would like them to, they come to busy towns to make money, more people coming to Helston to use what's already there will attract new shops. From what I can see the BIP are doing their best, its now down to the shoppers to start using the town more. parking appears to be an excuse, its only a £1 for two hours, I bet most of us could save that by using the local shops. Or better still rather than overspending at the supermarkets and falling for their super 2 for 3 deals and then throwing it away when its out of date, buy locally and just buy what you need. its up to us as shoppers to change things and improve Helston. dont take the easy option and buy everything in the supermarkets, why not use the fruit and veg shop and buy one or two locally grow apples rather than a big bag of South African apples which you might throw a few away? why not use the butchers and buy some local meat rather than getting a ready meal? why not buy a small loaf of locally made bread rather than artificial bread in a long life bag? why not use the 'tub' shop and many products cheaper and in the quantities you really want and need? why not use the sweet shop in town and buy local fudge rather than a multipack of cheap sweet chocolate? Why not use the town, because if you dont more businesses will close and things will get worse. Use it and more shops will come. Dont be lazy, spend a pound in the car parks and save your town![/p][/quote]I shop in Helston regularly, Oliver's butchers, WHS, Super Drug, Boots, Factory shop, jewellers for repairs, Williams, furniture, flooring., sweets newspapers, the post office, independent shops etc, bearing in mind I live in a outlying village and support the village shops as well, plus Porthleven shops seeing as I spend a lot of time there. I am not lazy and am quite happy to pay a pound for parking. However, I face reality and there are a lot of people that will not pay for parking and there are a lot of people that rely on buses and there are bus shelters at the supermarkets there are none in the town. I listen to what others want out of a town. To suggest that people they are lazy is not in my opinion the best way to promote Helston. Other people do have to visit other towns for hospitals and work commitments as well and therefore may shop while they are there. I personally think it is not wise to judge people or their circumstances. Gill Zella Martin 09
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8:36pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Incidentally I personally do not shop in Tescos unless I want to buy something like a television, where in the town centre can I buy a television since ETS closed? I do not buy multi packs of things and throw half away and I do buy local bakers bread. Supermarket shopping for things like televisions can also be down to financial restraints.
Incidentally I personally do not shop in Tescos unless I want to buy something like a television, where in the town centre can I buy a television since ETS closed? I do not buy multi packs of things and throw half away and I do buy local bakers bread. Supermarket shopping for things like televisions can also be down to financial restraints. Gill Zella Martin 09
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8:39pm Mon 17 Dec 12

helztonboy says...

I'm not accusing anyone on here of being lazy, more most of us as a population have become lazy in our habits and the the supermarkets and profiting from it. Many of us on here have already started to change our shopping habits, and that is great, but many more have not. I'm as guilty as many of being lazy and using the supermarkets because it is easy.

I'm now aware of the problems and am trying my best to change my shopping habits.

what I am saying is at least the BIP, TCM and TC are trying to make things better, BUT its now up to the shoppers.

The more we spend in Helston the better it will get
I'm not accusing anyone on here of being lazy, more most of us as a population have become lazy in our habits and the the supermarkets and profiting from it. Many of us on here have already started to change our shopping habits, and that is great, but many more have not. I'm as guilty as many of being lazy and using the supermarkets because it is easy. I'm now aware of the problems and am trying my best to change my shopping habits. what I am saying is at least the BIP, TCM and TC are trying to make things better, BUT its now up to the shoppers. The more we spend in Helston the better it will get helztonboy
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8:47pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

I couldn't get what I wanted In bowdens as they didn't stock them so I had no option but to go to B&Qs at Penryn. The fact remains if one cannot buy what one needs locally then one will go elsewhere.
I couldn't get what I wanted In bowdens as they didn't stock them so I had no option but to go to B&Qs at Penryn. The fact remains if one cannot buy what one needs locally then one will go elsewhere. Gill Zella Martin 09
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8:51pm Mon 17 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

GZM, I do not think it's a case of laziness

Most people are creatures of habit, and they need to be shown that there are alternatives to their shopping habits.

Busy,positive people find time to do more in one day, than lazy people could ever do in one week
GZM, I do not think it's a case of laziness Most people are creatures of habit, and they need to be shown that there are alternatives to their shopping habits. Busy,positive people find time to do more in one day, than lazy people could ever do in one week telstar1962
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8:56pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

helztonboy wrote:
I'm not accusing anyone on here of being lazy, more most of us as a population have become lazy in our habits and the the supermarkets and profiting from it. Many of us on here have already started to change our shopping habits, and that is great, but many more have not. I'm as guilty as many of being lazy and using the supermarkets because it is easy.

I'm now aware of the problems and am trying my best to change my shopping habits.

what I am saying is at least the BIP, TCM and TC are trying to make things better, BUT its now up to the shoppers.

The more we spend in Helston the better it will get
I do understand what you are saying about the HBIP and TCM and TC are trying to make things better, and it is up to shoppers but it still brings me back to saying that the HBIP, TCM and Town Council need to listen to what people want, I strongly believe communication is important. Why the need for secret meetings.
[quote][p][bold]helztonboy[/bold] wrote: I'm not accusing anyone on here of being lazy, more most of us as a population have become lazy in our habits and the the supermarkets and profiting from it. Many of us on here have already started to change our shopping habits, and that is great, but many more have not. I'm as guilty as many of being lazy and using the supermarkets because it is easy. I'm now aware of the problems and am trying my best to change my shopping habits. what I am saying is at least the BIP, TCM and TC are trying to make things better, BUT its now up to the shoppers. The more we spend in Helston the better it will get[/p][/quote]I do understand what you are saying about the HBIP and TCM and TC are trying to make things better, and it is up to shoppers but it still brings me back to saying that the HBIP, TCM and Town Council need to listen to what people want, I strongly believe communication is important. Why the need for secret meetings. Gill Zella Martin 09
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9:10pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

telstar1962 wrote:
GZM, I do not think it's a case of laziness

Most people are creatures of habit, and they need to be shown that there are alternatives to their shopping habits.

Busy,positive people find time to do more in one day, than lazy people could ever do in one week
I can't say I am a creature of habit, the only thing I am habitual in is the fact that I am habitually broke.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: GZM, I do not think it's a case of laziness Most people are creatures of habit, and they need to be shown that there are alternatives to their shopping habits. Busy,positive people find time to do more in one day, than lazy people could ever do in one week[/p][/quote]I can't say I am a creature of habit, the only thing I am habitual in is the fact that I am habitually broke. Gill Zella Martin 09
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9:22pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Oh yeah, and I've always bought my petrol at Fords (Flora Motors) as well and not in the supermarket.
( can't think why they all hide when I turn up though)
Oh yeah, and I've always bought my petrol at Fords (Flora Motors) as well and not in the supermarket. ( can't think why they all hide when I turn up though) Gill Zella Martin 09
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9:36pm Mon 17 Dec 12

meerkats says...

helztonboy wrote:
just a thought..
you mention Penzance was busy and it would be nice to see Helston busy like it.

If you and others were shopping in Helston rather than in Penzance then Helston would be busier!

There is no magic wand and shops wont come just because we would like them to, they come to busy towns to make money, more people coming to Helston to use what's already there will attract new shops.

From what I can see the BIP are doing their best, its now down to the shoppers to start using the town more.

parking appears to be an excuse, its only a £1 for two hours, I bet most of us could save that by using the local shops. Or better still rather than overspending at the supermarkets and falling for their super 2 for 3 deals and then throwing it away when its out of date, buy locally and just buy what you need.

its up to us as shoppers to change things and improve Helston.

dont take the easy option and buy everything in the supermarkets,
why not use the fruit and veg shop and buy one or two locally grow apples rather than a big bag of South African apples which you might throw a few away?
why not use the butchers and buy some local meat rather than getting a ready meal?
why not buy a small loaf of locally made bread rather than artificial bread in a long life bag?
why not use the 'tub' shop and many products cheaper and in the quantities you really want and need?
why not use the sweet shop in town and buy local fudge rather than a multipack of cheap sweet chocolate?

Why not use the town, because if you dont more businesses will close and things will get worse.
Use it and more shops will come.
Dont be lazy, spend a pound in the car parks and save your town!
I Live in Helston ,so dont need to use the car parks, and i am not lazy. The reason why i went to Penzance was because i could not get what i wanted in Helston.
[quote][p][bold]helztonboy[/bold] wrote: just a thought.. you mention Penzance was busy and it would be nice to see Helston busy like it. If you and others were shopping in Helston rather than in Penzance then Helston would be busier! There is no magic wand and shops wont come just because we would like them to, they come to busy towns to make money, more people coming to Helston to use what's already there will attract new shops. From what I can see the BIP are doing their best, its now down to the shoppers to start using the town more. parking appears to be an excuse, its only a £1 for two hours, I bet most of us could save that by using the local shops. Or better still rather than overspending at the supermarkets and falling for their super 2 for 3 deals and then throwing it away when its out of date, buy locally and just buy what you need. its up to us as shoppers to change things and improve Helston. dont take the easy option and buy everything in the supermarkets, why not use the fruit and veg shop and buy one or two locally grow apples rather than a big bag of South African apples which you might throw a few away? why not use the butchers and buy some local meat rather than getting a ready meal? why not buy a small loaf of locally made bread rather than artificial bread in a long life bag? why not use the 'tub' shop and many products cheaper and in the quantities you really want and need? why not use the sweet shop in town and buy local fudge rather than a multipack of cheap sweet chocolate? Why not use the town, because if you dont more businesses will close and things will get worse. Use it and more shops will come. Dont be lazy, spend a pound in the car parks and save your town![/p][/quote]I Live in Helston ,so dont need to use the car parks, and i am not lazy. The reason why i went to Penzance was because i could not get what i wanted in Helston. meerkats
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9:41pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

There is one thing though, if no one shopped in Tescos Sainsbury's Morrisons Azdas Lidals Aldi etc where would they all park in the town centres, and thousands of people would be out of work.
There is one thing though, if no one shopped in Tescos Sainsbury's Morrisons Azdas Lidals Aldi etc where would they all park in the town centres, and thousands of people would be out of work. Gill Zella Martin 09
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7:17am Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Looking at the other side of things.
Where is the cheapest place in Helston to buy butter, toilet rolls, washing liquid, bottled water, (needed because of the interruption to the water supply because of new build properties being built just for profit) the cheapest place being possibly Tesco's or Sainsbury's, when it is pouring with rain and you have a young child/children to walk round with at their speed or an elderly person and if it is Wednesday and you want to buy some meat (the butchers is closed all day Wednsedays in the town) and you live on the Lizard, the nearest shop is Sainsbury's, free parking no camera car park to worry about, in store cafe with breakfast from half eight in the morning and modern clean toilets. One issue Helston town seriously needs to address to compete with supermarkets is toilet facilities.
Looking at the other side of things. Where is the cheapest place in Helston to buy butter, toilet rolls, washing liquid, bottled water, (needed because of the interruption to the water supply because of new build properties being built just for profit) the cheapest place being possibly Tesco's or Sainsbury's, when it is pouring with rain and you have a young child/children to walk round with at their speed or an elderly person and if it is Wednesday and you want to buy some meat (the butchers is closed all day Wednsedays in the town) and you live on the Lizard, the nearest shop is Sainsbury's, free parking no camera car park to worry about, in store cafe with breakfast from half eight in the morning and modern clean toilets. One issue Helston town seriously needs to address to compete with supermarkets is toilet facilities. Gill Zella Martin 09
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7:24am Tue 18 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

Again,Zella, Tesco and the like will always have some customers, but it is the job of the newly appointed teams etc in Helston, with the money they have been given, to attract more shoppers into Town

Where would they all park ? you ask

If they live in Town they don't need to drive in

If they live out of Town, then park your car and do Park n Ride, like a lot of other Towns have started doing.

It is a question of changing peoples routines (whether you think you have one or not)

Finally, and repeating myself, get the customers of the local area back first, then concentrate on the rest of the UK and the world tourists after.
Again,Zella, Tesco and the like will always have some customers, but it is the job of the newly appointed teams etc in Helston, with the money they have been given, to attract more shoppers into Town Where would they all park ? you ask If they live in Town they don't need to drive in If they live out of Town, then park your car and do Park n Ride, like a lot of other Towns have started doing. It is a question of changing peoples routines (whether you think you have one or not) Finally, and repeating myself, get the customers of the local area back first, then concentrate on the rest of the UK and the world tourists after. telstar1962
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7:27am Tue 18 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

cheapest place for most supermarket items is Lidl
cheapest place for most supermarket items is Lidl telstar1962
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8:45am Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Yes but Lidal dosnt have cafe and toilets all under one roof, and you have to add on the VAT when you get to the till, no good with my maths skills :) although the cafe in the park is good. I agree about a park and ride.
I don't have a routine, especially not with my shopping habits, apart from where I buy my petrol. I agree it is the job of the town management team and the HBIP to spend all that lovely money and attract the locals back into town. They could use some of the money and offer vouchers to people for a discounted meal/ drink/cake etc to be used in a cafe of their choice on the town on a certain day of the week.
Yes but Lidal dosnt have cafe and toilets all under one roof, and you have to add on the VAT when you get to the till, no good with my maths skills :) although the cafe in the park is good. I agree about a park and ride. I don't have a routine, especially not with my shopping habits, apart from where I buy my petrol. I agree it is the job of the town management team and the HBIP to spend all that lovely money and attract the locals back into town. They could use some of the money and offer vouchers to people for a discounted meal/ drink/cake etc to be used in a cafe of their choice on the town on a certain day of the week. Gill Zella Martin 09
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8:46am Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Yes but Lidal dosnt have cafe and toilets all under one roof, and you have to add on the VAT when you get to the till, no good with my maths skills :) although the cafe in the park is good. I agree about a park and ride.
I don't have a routine, especially not with my shopping habits, apart from where I buy my petrol. I agree it is the job of the town management team and the HBIP to spend all that lovely money and attract the locals back into town. They could use some of the money and offer vouchers to people for a discounted meal/ drink/cake etc to be used in a cafe of their choice in the town on a certain day of the week.
Yes but Lidal dosnt have cafe and toilets all under one roof, and you have to add on the VAT when you get to the till, no good with my maths skills :) although the cafe in the park is good. I agree about a park and ride. I don't have a routine, especially not with my shopping habits, apart from where I buy my petrol. I agree it is the job of the town management team and the HBIP to spend all that lovely money and attract the locals back into town. They could use some of the money and offer vouchers to people for a discounted meal/ drink/cake etc to be used in a cafe of their choice in the town on a certain day of the week. Gill Zella Martin 09
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9:20am Tue 18 Dec 12

meerkats says...

To get people in to town we need shops like Iceland ,Poundland etc both that other towns have and do well. Shops wont come into town if it is not busy enough ,and shoppers wont come in if they cant get what they want, so its a difficult situation all round. Ido shop at Tesco but only for groceries, and use the shops in town,ie chemist ,newsagents etc . i dont think its right that supermarkets can sell everything ,but on the other hand if they didnt sell electrical items,many people would be stuck as there is nothing in town since ETS Shut..
To get people in to town we need shops like Iceland ,Poundland etc both that other towns have and do well. Shops wont come into town if it is not busy enough ,and shoppers wont come in if they cant get what they want, so its a difficult situation all round. Ido shop at Tesco but only for groceries, and use the shops in town,ie chemist ,newsagents etc . i dont think its right that supermarkets can sell everything ,but on the other hand if they didnt sell electrical items,many people would be stuck as there is nothing in town since ETS Shut.. meerkats
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10:17am Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

meerkats wrote:
To get people in to town we need shops like Iceland ,Poundland etc both that other towns have and do well. Shops wont come into town if it is not busy enough ,and shoppers wont come in if they cant get what they want, so its a difficult situation all round. Ido shop at Tesco but only for groceries, and use the shops in town,ie chemist ,newsagents etc . i dont think its right that supermarkets can sell everything ,but on the other hand if they didnt sell electrical items,many people would be stuck as there is nothing in town since ETS Shut..
Completely agree, only I tend to use Sainsbury's as it has no camera operated car park and a better cafe. I did however buy a TV in Tescos although I do think the TV is a bit rubbish because it rattles and I couldn't take it back because I threw the packaging away and couldn't be bothered with the hassle of taking it back. My car rattled as well but I took that back to Fords and they fixed it, wonder if they are any good with TVs.

I do shop regularly in Helston town, I always think the atmosphere for shopping in the town centre is so much nicer than a supermarket. You get a real service too from shops like Williams etc. The Coffee Bean does lovely meals too.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: To get people in to town we need shops like Iceland ,Poundland etc both that other towns have and do well. Shops wont come into town if it is not busy enough ,and shoppers wont come in if they cant get what they want, so its a difficult situation all round. Ido shop at Tesco but only for groceries, and use the shops in town,ie chemist ,newsagents etc . i dont think its right that supermarkets can sell everything ,but on the other hand if they didnt sell electrical items,many people would be stuck as there is nothing in town since ETS Shut..[/p][/quote]Completely agree, only I tend to use Sainsbury's as it has no camera operated car park and a better cafe. I did however buy a TV in Tescos although I do think the TV is a bit rubbish because it rattles and I couldn't take it back because I threw the packaging away and couldn't be bothered with the hassle of taking it back. My car rattled as well but I took that back to Fords and they fixed it, wonder if they are any good with TVs. I do shop regularly in Helston town, I always think the atmosphere for shopping in the town centre is so much nicer than a supermarket. You get a real service too from shops like Williams etc. The Coffee Bean does lovely meals too. Gill Zella Martin 09
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10:27am Tue 18 Dec 12

meerkats says...

yes i agree ,the atmosphere for shopping in town is much nicer, as they have more time for you ,unlike the supermarkets,where you are usually rushed through. . I Like the Coffee Bean and the Park cafe at Horse and Jockey is very nice too.
yes i agree ,the atmosphere for shopping in town is much nicer, as they have more time for you ,unlike the supermarkets,where you are usually rushed through. . I Like the Coffee Bean and the Park cafe at Horse and Jockey is very nice too. meerkats
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10:33am Tue 18 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

Don't worry, fellow commenters: now that Helston has that great slogan in place, its problems are over. Visitors will flock to see the town with such an unusual slogan. The signs bearing it will become tourist attractions in their own right...
While other places such as Warwickshire ('Shakespeare's county") and Nottingham ("Home of Robin Hood") lamely content themselves with stating specific famous connections, Helston has gone all vague and opted to take the P, four of them to be precise ("Positive People, Perfect Place"). Prospective visitors may indeed feel that the michael is being extracted by this use of such a debatable and woolly slogan and decide not to visit or not to linger.
I think they’ve probably missed a trick by not just stating something nice and simple such as "Home of the Floral Dance", which is after all just about the town’s only claim to fame.
A new updated version of the Terry Wogan hit (in a rap or other modern style perhaps??) could then have been perhaps released by a local artist/band to mark the launch of the new branding.
Don't worry, fellow commenters: now that Helston has that great slogan in place, its problems are over. Visitors will flock to see the town with such an unusual slogan. The signs bearing it will become tourist attractions in their own right... While other places such as Warwickshire ('Shakespeare's county") and Nottingham ("Home of Robin Hood") lamely content themselves with stating specific famous connections, Helston has gone all vague and opted to take the P, four of them to be precise ("Positive People, Perfect Place"). Prospective visitors may indeed feel that the michael is being extracted by this use of such a debatable and woolly slogan and decide not to visit or not to linger. I think they’ve probably missed a trick by not just stating something nice and simple such as "Home of the Floral Dance", which is after all just about the town’s only claim to fame. A new updated version of the Terry Wogan hit (in a rap or other modern style perhaps??) could then have been perhaps released by a local artist/band to mark the launch of the new branding. Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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11:29am Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Well looking on the positive side, the new slogan is a good bit of alliteration, and the logo flags up that Helston is full of people that can stare at the centre of something and find another image in it. (The centre of the logo is supposed to mirror the image of looking into the trumpet bit of the Lilly of the valley flower) Therefore the slogan/logo could hold the message that if we all look at the centre of Helston maybe we can see it in a different and better image.
Well looking on the positive side, the new slogan is a good bit of alliteration, and the logo flags up that Helston is full of people that can stare at the centre of something and find another image in it. (The centre of the logo is supposed to mirror the image of looking into the trumpet bit of the Lilly of the valley flower) Therefore the slogan/logo could hold the message that if we all look at the centre of Helston maybe we can see it in a different and better image. Gill Zella Martin 09
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11:57am Tue 18 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

Oh finally I get it. It's just a joke. How stupid am I thinking anyone would wasted the Towns money on something as pointless as this.
Oh finally I get it. It's just a joke. How stupid am I thinking anyone would wasted the Towns money on something as pointless as this. ronedgcumbe
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12:07pm Tue 18 Dec 12

meerkats says...

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe wrote:
Don't worry, fellow commenters: now that Helston has that great slogan in place, its problems are over. Visitors will flock to see the town with such an unusual slogan. The signs bearing it will become tourist attractions in their own right...
While other places such as Warwickshire ('Shakespeare's county") and Nottingham ("Home of Robin Hood") lamely content themselves with stating specific famous connections, Helston has gone all vague and opted to take the P, four of them to be precise ("Positive People, Perfect Place"). Prospective visitors may indeed feel that the michael is being extracted by this use of such a debatable and woolly slogan and decide not to visit or not to linger.
I think they’ve probably missed a trick by not just stating something nice and simple such as "Home of the Floral Dance", which is after all just about the town’s only claim to fame.
A new updated version of the Terry Wogan hit (in a rap or other modern style perhaps??) could then have been perhaps released by a local artist/band to mark the launch of the new branding.
love your comments lol
[quote][p][bold]Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe[/bold] wrote: Don't worry, fellow commenters: now that Helston has that great slogan in place, its problems are over. Visitors will flock to see the town with such an unusual slogan. The signs bearing it will become tourist attractions in their own right... While other places such as Warwickshire ('Shakespeare's county") and Nottingham ("Home of Robin Hood") lamely content themselves with stating specific famous connections, Helston has gone all vague and opted to take the P, four of them to be precise ("Positive People, Perfect Place"). Prospective visitors may indeed feel that the michael is being extracted by this use of such a debatable and woolly slogan and decide not to visit or not to linger. I think they’ve probably missed a trick by not just stating something nice and simple such as "Home of the Floral Dance", which is after all just about the town’s only claim to fame. A new updated version of the Terry Wogan hit (in a rap or other modern style perhaps??) could then have been perhaps released by a local artist/band to mark the launch of the new branding.[/p][/quote]love your comments lol meerkats
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12:42pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Oh finally I get it. It's just a joke. How stupid am I thinking anyone would wasted the Towns money on something as pointless as this.
Lol, I shouldn't laugh though, I'm trying to be positive about it, I do normally look on the bright side of life. When all these visitors internationally and nationally and in county eventually tell us how good the branding is then I will admit defeat about the idea and say how good it was after all.

What I do think was a good use of council money was the installation of the crossing on the Porthleven Road.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Oh finally I get it. It's just a joke. How stupid am I thinking anyone would wasted the Towns money on something as pointless as this.[/p][/quote]Lol, I shouldn't laugh though, I'm trying to be positive about it, I do normally look on the bright side of life. When all these visitors internationally and nationally and in county eventually tell us how good the branding is then I will admit defeat about the idea and say how good it was after all. What I do think was a good use of council money was the installation of the crossing on the Porthleven Road. Gill Zella Martin 09
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12:49pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

zee feeling eez mutual, Meerkats!
zee feeling eez mutual, Meerkats! Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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12:53pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

To be serious for a second though (and only a second!), it's good that you are always so positive and constructive, Gill: you amount to 'the Voice of Reason' on these pages.

Me, I've tried to be positive about the new slogan and I've finally suceeded....I'm positive that it's a load of old tosh!
To be serious for a second though (and only a second!), it's good that you are always so positive and constructive, Gill: you amount to 'the Voice of Reason' on these pages. Me, I've tried to be positive about the new slogan and I've finally suceeded....I'm positive that it's a load of old tosh! Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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1:40pm Tue 18 Dec 12

meerkats says...

Gill Zella Martin 09 wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Oh finally I get it. It's just a joke. How stupid am I thinking anyone would wasted the Towns money on something as pointless as this.
Lol, I shouldn't laugh though, I'm trying to be positive about it, I do normally look on the bright side of life. When all these visitors internationally and nationally and in county eventually tell us how good the branding is then I will admit defeat about the idea and say how good it was after all.

What I do think was a good use of council money was the installation of the crossing on the Porthleven Road.
Lets have some comment cards in various shops around the town, for visitors to fill in with their thoughts on the logo and slogan., we may get a true picture if it is all worth it ,but sadly i dont think it will be a positive outcome.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Zella Martin 09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Oh finally I get it. It's just a joke. How stupid am I thinking anyone would wasted the Towns money on something as pointless as this.[/p][/quote]Lol, I shouldn't laugh though, I'm trying to be positive about it, I do normally look on the bright side of life. When all these visitors internationally and nationally and in county eventually tell us how good the branding is then I will admit defeat about the idea and say how good it was after all. What I do think was a good use of council money was the installation of the crossing on the Porthleven Road.[/p][/quote]Lets have some comment cards in various shops around the town, for visitors to fill in with their thoughts on the logo and slogan., we may get a true picture if it is all worth it ,but sadly i dont think it will be a positive outcome. meerkats
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1:46pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe wrote:
To be serious for a second though (and only a second!), it's good that you are always so positive and constructive, Gill: you amount to 'the Voice of Reason' on these pages.

Me, I've tried to be positive about the new slogan and I've finally suceeded....I'm positive that it's a load of old tosh!
Lol, I am going to send a copy of the logo/slogan up country and get a bit of feed back.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe[/bold] wrote: To be serious for a second though (and only a second!), it's good that you are always so positive and constructive, Gill: you amount to 'the Voice of Reason' on these pages. Me, I've tried to be positive about the new slogan and I've finally suceeded....I'm positive that it's a load of old tosh![/p][/quote]Lol, I am going to send a copy of the logo/slogan up country and get a bit of feed back. Gill Zella Martin 09
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2:05pm Tue 18 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

Gill Zella Martin 09 wrote:
Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe wrote:
To be serious for a second though (and only a second!), it's good that you are always so positive and constructive, Gill: you amount to 'the Voice of Reason' on these pages.

Me, I've tried to be positive about the new slogan and I've finally suceeded....I'm positive that it's a load of old tosh!
Lol, I am going to send a copy of the logo/slogan up country and get a bit of feed back.
l must admit when I think of this logo and slogan now it does make me chuckle. I wonder will I still find it so funny when and if the cost of all this is finally disclosed.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Zella Martin 09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe[/bold] wrote: To be serious for a second though (and only a second!), it's good that you are always so positive and constructive, Gill: you amount to 'the Voice of Reason' on these pages. Me, I've tried to be positive about the new slogan and I've finally suceeded....I'm positive that it's a load of old tosh![/p][/quote]Lol, I am going to send a copy of the logo/slogan up country and get a bit of feed back.[/p][/quote]l must admit when I think of this logo and slogan now it does make me chuckle. I wonder will I still find it so funny when and if the cost of all this is finally disclosed. ronedgcumbe
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2:18pm Tue 18 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

Surely the logo and slogan is costing tax-payers nothing

Why not steal Tesco's latest inaccuracy and a reserve slogan could be:

Helston Town : Helping you spend less every day
Surely the logo and slogan is costing tax-payers nothing Why not steal Tesco's latest inaccuracy and a reserve slogan could be: Helston Town : Helping you spend less every day telstar1962
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2:37pm Tue 18 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

telstar1962 wrote:
Surely the logo and slogan is costing tax-payers nothing

Why not steal Tesco's latest inaccuracy and a reserve slogan could be:

Helston Town : Helping you spend less every day
I never said it was taxpayers it's the Towns money.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Surely the logo and slogan is costing tax-payers nothing Why not steal Tesco's latest inaccuracy and a reserve slogan could be: Helston Town : Helping you spend less every day[/p][/quote]I never said it was taxpayers it's the Towns money. ronedgcumbe
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2:49pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

It is not tax payers money but it is money that everyone in Helston has an interest in.

Feedback I got so far was - "perfect place is good but not sure about positive people" - " but it doesn't really tell you anything"
"are they having a laugh about the Lilly of the valley flower bit" - "what is it supposed to represent"- "looks quite good I suppose but it could be anywhere" "I like it, it is quite nice" -"where is Helston"

That is feedback from a cross section of people in different parts of the country. It was the last comment that made me laugh. "Where is Helston"
It is not tax payers money but it is money that everyone in Helston has an interest in. Feedback I got so far was - "perfect place is good but not sure about positive people" - " but it doesn't really tell you anything" "are they having a laugh about the Lilly of the valley flower bit" - "what is it supposed to represent"- "looks quite good I suppose but it could be anywhere" "I like it, it is quite nice" -"where is Helston" That is feedback from a cross section of people in different parts of the country. It was the last comment that made me laugh. "Where is Helston" Gill Zella Martin 09
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2:53pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Someone else has just said to me it is not very village/country looking, it just looks like a corporate logo.
Someone else has just said to me it is not very village/country looking, it just looks like a corporate logo. Gill Zella Martin 09
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3:07pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

So being positive, what's next on the agenda then for promoting Helston?
So being positive, what's next on the agenda then for promoting Helston? Gill Zella Martin 09
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3:18pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

How about having an annual music festival just outside the town somewhere? I'm sure it's an idea that will go down very badly in some quarters locally but it would certainly bring in some new blood and new ways of thinking, and put Helston on the map among a younger age group, all of which I think is sorely needed.
How about having an annual music festival just outside the town somewhere? I'm sure it's an idea that will go down very badly in some quarters locally but it would certainly bring in some new blood and new ways of thinking, and put Helston on the map among a younger age group, all of which I think is sorely needed. Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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3:20pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

it could be country music: ' the Helston Hoedown" ;-)
it could be country music: ' the Helston Hoedown" ;-) Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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3:46pm Tue 18 Dec 12

meerkats says...

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe wrote:
How about having an annual music festival just outside the town somewhere? I'm sure it's an idea that will go down very badly in some quarters locally but it would certainly bring in some new blood and new ways of thinking, and put Helston on the map among a younger age group, all of which I think is sorely needed.
Can,t see many liking that idea.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe[/bold] wrote: How about having an annual music festival just outside the town somewhere? I'm sure it's an idea that will go down very badly in some quarters locally but it would certainly bring in some new blood and new ways of thinking, and put Helston on the map among a younger age group, all of which I think is sorely needed.[/p][/quote]Can,t see many liking that idea. meerkats
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3:54pm Tue 18 Dec 12

meerkats says...

I do think that there should be more for the younger age group ,and maybe they should get a chance to say what they would like. wonder what logo design they would have come up with if they had the chance to take part. Cant be any more complex than the one that was chosen. Gill, where is Helston . lol
I do think that there should be more for the younger age group ,and maybe they should get a chance to say what they would like. wonder what logo design they would have come up with if they had the chance to take part. Cant be any more complex than the one that was chosen. Gill, where is Helston . lol meerkats
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3:58pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

Lol indeed at 'Where is Helston?' but the issue is exactly that: coming up with something to put Helston on the map, within Cornwall and the UK as a whole; some people will have to make sacrifices in order to achieve this
Lol indeed at 'Where is Helston?' but the issue is exactly that: coming up with something to put Helston on the map, within Cornwall and the UK as a whole; some people will have to make sacrifices in order to achieve this Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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3:59pm Tue 18 Dec 12

meerkats says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Gill Zella Martin 09 wrote:
Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe wrote:
To be serious for a second though (and only a second!), it's good that you are always so positive and constructive, Gill: you amount to 'the Voice of Reason' on these pages.

Me, I've tried to be positive about the new slogan and I've finally suceeded....I'm positive that it's a load of old tosh!
Lol, I am going to send a copy of the logo/slogan up country and get a bit of feed back.
l must admit when I think of this logo and slogan now it does make me chuckle. I wonder will I still find it so funny when and if the cost of all this is finally disclosed.
good that we can chuckle about it ,laughter is the best medicine, though we might need something stronger when the cost of this is revealed.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Zella Martin 09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe[/bold] wrote: To be serious for a second though (and only a second!), it's good that you are always so positive and constructive, Gill: you amount to 'the Voice of Reason' on these pages. Me, I've tried to be positive about the new slogan and I've finally suceeded....I'm positive that it's a load of old tosh![/p][/quote]Lol, I am going to send a copy of the logo/slogan up country and get a bit of feed back.[/p][/quote]l must admit when I think of this logo and slogan now it does make me chuckle. I wonder will I still find it so funny when and if the cost of all this is finally disclosed.[/p][/quote]good that we can chuckle about it ,laughter is the best medicine, though we might need something stronger when the cost of this is revealed. meerkats
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4:14pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

I'll have a Baileys.
I'll have a Baileys. Gill Zella Martin 09
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4:27pm Tue 18 Dec 12

molesworth says...

Risible slogan or not I'm sure enticing young folk to Helston with popular music wouldn't be at all popular with the locals. That sort of thing never is.
Personally, if Helston had a decent gentlemens' outfitters that knew a thing or two about cutting cloth and fitting, I would favour the town with my custom. There's none in Falmouth or Truro. In fact, I can't think of one in the whole of the South West. We don't all want to go around permanently dressed for the beach or sporting activities. Just saying...
Risible slogan or not I'm sure enticing young folk to Helston with popular music wouldn't be at all popular with the locals. That sort of thing never is. Personally, if Helston had a decent gentlemens' outfitters that knew a thing or two about cutting cloth and fitting, I would favour the town with my custom. There's none in Falmouth or Truro. In fact, I can't think of one in the whole of the South West. We don't all want to go around permanently dressed for the beach or sporting activities. Just saying... molesworth
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4:35pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

Fair do's Molesworth, I'm aware of that but we're only talking once a year, not turning Helston into Newquay It could bring in more people in one weekend than your gentleman's outfitters, as nice an idea as it is, would in a lifetime. 'Which way do you dress? Ooh, suits you sir!"
Fair do's Molesworth, I'm aware of that but we're only talking once a year, not turning Helston into Newquay It could bring in more people in one weekend than your gentleman's outfitters, as nice an idea as it is, would in a lifetime. 'Which way do you dress? Ooh, suits you sir!" Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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4:39pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

You have a very valid point molesworth. There are some empty shop units available. I think probably the stores have taken over a lot of this sort of trade though now with off the peg men's clothes.
You have a very valid point molesworth. There are some empty shop units available. I think probably the stores have taken over a lot of this sort of trade though now with off the peg men's clothes. Gill Zella Martin 09
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4:43pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

Exactly. It would make no difference to the prevailing ambiance of 'Helston: the town that time forgot'. In fact, it would add to it!
Exactly. It would make no difference to the prevailing ambiance of 'Helston: the town that time forgot'. In fact, it would add to it! Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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4:45pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

LBFS, Helston did have the Centenary celebrations at Coronation park lake this year which was very well received and attended, and it was suggested that this becomes an annual event. (Obviously not centenary) bearing in mind all events have an initial financial outlay.
LBFS, Helston did have the Centenary celebrations at Coronation park lake this year which was very well received and attended, and it was suggested that this becomes an annual event. (Obviously not centenary) bearing in mind all events have an initial financial outlay. Gill Zella Martin 09
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4:49pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe wrote:
Exactly. It would make no difference to the prevailing ambiance of 'Helston: the town that time forgot'. In fact, it would add to it!
"The town that time forgot" I think that actually would make a very good slogan, I think the intrigue would get people to visit.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe[/bold] wrote: Exactly. It would make no difference to the prevailing ambiance of 'Helston: the town that time forgot'. In fact, it would add to it![/p][/quote]"The town that time forgot" I think that actually would make a very good slogan, I think the intrigue would get people to visit. Gill Zella Martin 09
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4:50pm Tue 18 Dec 12

molesworth says...

As my millionaire media guru friend once said to me over the port and cigars 'When everyone else zigs, zag'. In this time of brutal competition amongst the shopkeepers I'm waiting to see an empty highstreet 'zag' or at least specialise in something en masse like those quaint French towns do - you know, basket weaving or cheese making. Surely Helston could specialise in strong locally made beer if nothing else? (Bazzer old boy, to the left. And FYI it's "Suit you, sir. Suit you.)
As my millionaire media guru friend once said to me over the port and cigars 'When everyone else zigs, zag'. In this time of brutal competition amongst the shopkeepers I'm waiting to see an empty highstreet 'zag' or at least specialise in something en masse like those quaint French towns do - you know, basket weaving or cheese making. Surely Helston could specialise in strong locally made beer if nothing else? (Bazzer old boy, to the left. And FYI it's "Suit you, sir. Suit you.) molesworth
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4:53pm Tue 18 Dec 12

molesworth says...

Mrs M beckons. I shall pick up on this later...
Mrs M beckons. I shall pick up on this later... molesworth
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4:57pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

Beckoning with bedroom eyes, I hope. "Suit you, Moley, suit you".
Beckoning with bedroom eyes, I hope. "Suit you, Moley, suit you". Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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5:05pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

Gill, maybe the town could also have something a bit more with-it than the Centenary celebrations... Actually, I don't think the phrase 'with-it' is very 'with-it' these days... Oh well!

Moley, I am picturing a line of pubs selling Spingo-type beer; there would be carnage. Maybe they could do this and make open public drunkeness the norm in Helston, at a time when other towns are coming down hard on such behaviour. That would be 'zagging' in a big way, methinks.
Gill, maybe the town could also have something a bit more with-it than the Centenary celebrations... Actually, I don't think the phrase 'with-it' is very 'with-it' these days... Oh well! Moley, I am picturing a line of pubs selling Spingo-type beer; there would be carnage. Maybe they could do this and make open public drunkeness the norm in Helston, at a time when other towns are coming down hard on such behaviour. That would be 'zagging' in a big way, methinks. Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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5:21pm Tue 18 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

Where is Helston ?

It is Positively the Most Southerly Quaint Cornish Town'

http://www.cornwalls
.co.uk/images/maps/w
est_cornwall.gif
Where is Helston ? It is Positively the Most Southerly Quaint Cornish Town' http://www.cornwalls .co.uk/images/maps/w est_cornwall.gif telstar1962
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6:03pm Tue 18 Dec 12

meerkats says...

Gill Zella Martin 09 wrote:
Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe wrote:
Exactly. It would make no difference to the prevailing ambiance of 'Helston: the town that time forgot'. In fact, it would add to it!
"The town that time forgot" I think that actually would make a very good slogan, I think the intrigue would get people to visit.
I agree that would have been a brilliant slogan .
[quote][p][bold]Gill Zella Martin 09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe[/bold] wrote: Exactly. It would make no difference to the prevailing ambiance of 'Helston: the town that time forgot'. In fact, it would add to it![/p][/quote]"The town that time forgot" I think that actually would make a very good slogan, I think the intrigue would get people to visit.[/p][/quote]I agree that would have been a brilliant slogan . meerkats
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6:07pm Tue 18 Dec 12

molesworth says...

(I've managed to slip away from Mrs M for a minute.) I have visited a remote town in Washington State USA which suddenly lost it's main source of income - factory making God knows what. They were going down the swanny and the good townsfolk decided to do something radical. Their town was going to be completely devoted to Christmas ALL YEAR ROUND. Every shop sold Christmassy things, every shop worker dressed as an elf and now they are packed out every day with people from all over the states, tourists and shoppers alike buying Christmassy things, eating drinking etc. They even stuck alpine style facades on all the shops and have Christmas carols piped through loudspeakers in the streets ALL YEAR ROUND. The shopkeepers and the townsfolk are now all very wealthy and it is an amazing and bizarre and enjoyable place to visit. That's the sort of thing I'm talking about for Helston. There's precious little else to entice people to Helston - the same could be said most other Cornish towns. Ooops, better go...
(I've managed to slip away from Mrs M for a minute.) I have visited a remote town in Washington State USA which suddenly lost it's main source of income - factory making God knows what. They were going down the swanny and the good townsfolk decided to do something radical. Their town was going to be completely devoted to Christmas ALL YEAR ROUND. Every shop sold Christmassy things, every shop worker dressed as an elf and now they are packed out every day with people from all over the states, tourists and shoppers alike buying Christmassy things, eating drinking etc. They even stuck alpine style facades on all the shops and have Christmas carols piped through loudspeakers in the streets ALL YEAR ROUND. The shopkeepers and the townsfolk are now all very wealthy and it is an amazing and bizarre and enjoyable place to visit. That's the sort of thing I'm talking about for Helston. There's precious little else to entice people to Helston - the same could be said most other Cornish towns. Ooops, better go... molesworth
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6:12pm Tue 18 Dec 12

molesworth says...

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe wrote:
Gill, maybe the town could also have something a bit more with-it than the Centenary celebrations... Actually, I don't think the phrase 'with-it' is very 'with-it' these days... Oh well!

Moley, I am picturing a line of pubs selling Spingo-type beer; there would be carnage. Maybe they could do this and make open public drunkeness the norm in Helston, at a time when other towns are coming down hard on such behaviour. That would be 'zagging' in a big way, methinks.
Nothing new for most Cornish towns on a Saturday night regarding the drunken carnage but I like the idea Bazzer. "The town that likes to Zag' has a certain ring to it.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe[/bold] wrote: Gill, maybe the town could also have something a bit more with-it than the Centenary celebrations... Actually, I don't think the phrase 'with-it' is very 'with-it' these days... Oh well! Moley, I am picturing a line of pubs selling Spingo-type beer; there would be carnage. Maybe they could do this and make open public drunkeness the norm in Helston, at a time when other towns are coming down hard on such behaviour. That would be 'zagging' in a big way, methinks.[/p][/quote]Nothing new for most Cornish towns on a Saturday night regarding the drunken carnage but I like the idea Bazzer. "The town that likes to Zag' has a certain ring to it. molesworth
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6:16pm Tue 18 Dec 12

molesworth says...

The American town was called 'Leavenworth'...
The American town was called 'Leavenworth'... molesworth
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7:04pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...

telstar1962 wrote:
Where is Helston ?

It is Positively the Most Southerly Quaint Cornish Town'

http://www.cornwalls

.co.uk/images/maps/w

est_cornwall.gif
Agreed telstar, that really should have been incorporated into the branding.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Where is Helston ? It is Positively the Most Southerly Quaint Cornish Town' http://www.cornwalls .co.uk/images/maps/w est_cornwall.gif[/p][/quote]Agreed telstar, that really should have been incorporated into the branding. Gill Zella Martin 09
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9:35am Wed 19 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

Leavenworth, eh? Not a particularly inspiring or Christmassy name but nice enough, Moley.

That's got me thinking about renaming places. They did it on a large scale in South Africa after apartheid. Just imagine, I know it would never happen, but if Helston ditched its somewhat misleading appellation for something more flowery, no rebranding exercise would even be needed. The name change and new name could serve as the ultimate marketing tool.
The possibilities are numerous, but anybody fancy a trip to "Floraville"?
Leavenworth, eh? Not a particularly inspiring or Christmassy name but nice enough, Moley. That's got me thinking about renaming places. They did it on a large scale in South Africa after apartheid. Just imagine, I know it would never happen, but if Helston ditched its somewhat misleading appellation for something more flowery, no rebranding exercise would even be needed. The name change and new name could serve as the ultimate marketing tool. The possibilities are numerous, but anybody fancy a trip to "Floraville"? Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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10:18am Wed 19 Dec 12

telstar1962 says...

L B F-S

or back to its Cornish roots

''Hellys''

new slogan

where the Hellys that Town ?
L B F-S or back to its Cornish roots ''Hellys'' new slogan where the Hellys that Town ? telstar1962
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10:53am Wed 19 Dec 12

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

I like it Tel Star

Or, in a new take on the 80s hit:

"Hellys a place in Cornwall/on Earth"
I like it Tel Star Or, in a new take on the 80s hit: "Hellys a place in Cornwall/on Earth" Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
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1:49pm Wed 19 Dec 12

molesworth says...

Nice one Bazzer. In the Molesworth household 'Hayle' has traditionally been referred to as 'Hell'. 'Mevagissey' is 'Give it a missy' (which is a commonly used alias amongst the Roseland folk). I won't say what Penryn is called...
Nice one Bazzer. In the Molesworth household 'Hayle' has traditionally been referred to as 'Hell'. 'Mevagissey' is 'Give it a missy' (which is a commonly used alias amongst the Roseland folk). I won't say what Penryn is called... molesworth
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