Cornwall Council votes to make the poorest pay tax (From Falmouth Packet)

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  Teejay wrote:
  

  Gill Zella Martin 09 wrote:
  

  Teejay wrote:
  

  Gill Zella Martin 09 wrote:
  

  Teejay wrote:
  Everyone should pay something. Whilst I don't subscribe to the view that everyone on benefits is a scrounger, for many long term claimants there isn't much incentive to earn. So 25% minimum is fair.
  Likewise in the 'everyone contributes' world, remove the concessions on 4000 odd students and however many second/holiday homes there are in Cornwall.

  When you say concessions on students do you mean the fact they pay no council tax? or the landlords ? The local council get reimbursed from the government for students in accomodation owned by landlords, if you charge landlords, this money would all go to central government as it would be business rates and the local council would lose out and everyone's council tax would probably be even dearer.

  Right. So by having central govt. pay for the students I'm still paying twice. Once to Cornwall Council, plus the part of my income tax, VAT, or whatever other taxes central govt. choose to redistribute to pay student council tax in my area.
  So however you cut it, subsidising students costs extra.
  40 to 50% of school leavers are being subsidised not only in education, but in billions of student loans that will never be recovered.

  It does not really work like that though does it. You will likely pay the same tax etc whatever the government choose to spend it on. I could say I am subsidising libraries and schools which I do not use for example, or adult social care or child minding government schemes or anything, however, we live in a democracy and have to accept that everyones needs should be considered.

  That's exactly how it works! Some of us pay at every turn while others contribute nothing.
  Of course you pay for bits you don't use, we all do.
  But we're breeding a society that thinks the world owes it a living. The real social security of the past has given way to 'Benefits', and now so many of our democratic society choose to benefit from the state the genuine hardship cases can't get a fair share of the support they need.
  
  A whole generation is growing up knowing that someone else will pay their debts.
  
  You don't have to agree, but please try to accept and respect other people's points of view. It's a free forum but you always seem to have to have the last word on every thread. No offence meant.

  I feel there is a difference between accept and respect, whilst I may not always accept an opinion and will debate on a point raised or issue, I always categorically respect others opinions. I do not always have the last word and I am never impolite to people. I often raise/quote other people's opinions simply to gain more information from them on their opinion (i notice you often quote other people's comments.) I find that if I gain more information from people about their opinions I very often see things from a different view point or even completely come round to their way of thinking which I have done very often in the past. Perfect example, I happen to agree with your last comment about the benefits system and the real cases of hardship not getting a fair share because of some that think the world owes them a living/pay their debts etc.
  I will however in future not quote your posts to debate with."
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