Mums and daughters urged to enter Falmouth's Race for Life

11:00am Sunday 10th March 2013 in News

Mothers and daughters are being urged to sign up together for the Falmouth Race for Life which is taking place on May 12.

With it being Mother’s Day this Sunday, Cancer Research UK is suggesting buying places in the charity fundraiser provides a great excuse for mothers and daughters to spend time together.

Sam Beare, Cancer Research UK’s South West events manager, said: “We want to encourage women in Cornwall to buy their mums a very special gift this year – a place in Race for Life.

“We want to recruit a formidable Mums’ Army, ready to take on cancer and win. We all know how committed mothers can be when they really make up their minds to do something and we want to harness that power and create a unique force that will stop cancer in its tracks.”

The Falmouth Race for Life starts from the Gyllyngvase Beach car park at 11am. To enter visit www.raceforlife.org or call 0845 6006050.

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Wave says...
11:22am Sun 10 Mar 13

If that was a request for white people to do something as white people are known to be good at organising themselves and being proactive for charity. It would obviously be racist.
In the same way this is highly discriminatory based on gender.
Maybe because it's Cornwall the ethics has 20 years to catch up with legal trends perhaps.

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Sca Malrm says...
8:17pm Sun 10 Mar 13

Cornwall, apart from being a thin spit of land, may be at the thin end of the gene pool.
Throwbacks are inevitable.
Wave is from the shallowest rock pool on the shore.

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Sca Malrm says...
8:20pm Sun 10 Mar 13

Wave is what is known to science as a "W743^@*

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meerkats says...
11:06pm Sun 10 Mar 13

Wave wrote:
If that was a request for white people to do something as white people are known to be good at organising themselves and being proactive for charity. It would obviously be racist.
In the same way this is highly discriminatory based on gender.
Maybe because it's Cornwall the ethics has 20 years to catch up with legal trends perhaps.
it is not discriminatory based on gender ,yes it is a race for females of all ages, but plenty of men help on the day as marshalls etc. Men also have their days to help raise funds for cancer charities with the moustache event, dont hear women moaning about that being sexist !!

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Wave says...
11:49pm Sun 10 Mar 13

What a lot of ruffians.

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Wave says...
10:21am Mon 11 Mar 13

@meerkats
What you are saying is the same as it's ok for white people only to use a bus as black people can have their own bus to get to town also. So it's fair...

I hope you see the discrimination.

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meerkats says...
10:32am Mon 11 Mar 13

your comment has no relevance to the article and i am not being drawn into an argument or discussion on white and black people. Dont see where you are going with this , so its end of it from me.

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Wave says...
11:11am Mon 11 Mar 13

Black - white is a division of race.
Female - male is a division of gender.
Both race and gender are legally protected from discrimination, there is also a moral principle.
You can not say it's ok to isolate a certain gender for an event while believing it's not ok to isolate a certain racial type for an event.

The race for life event maybe breaking the law if males can not enter it.
It's not a sporting event and not protected as such in law. It's a declared fund raising event.
But even if it's sporting classified it's still against the law to isolate gender in this instance as the race for life can not show that one gender has an advantage over the other. It even says on the website you can walk it. Which means it's not about being fastest, it's just about taking part.

Charities are legally allowed to benefit one gender over another if it is set out in their constitution.
But people entering the race event are not exclusively the target or the people in need which the charity is there to help with.

So on the outside it looks like illegal sexual discrimination is occurring in this case.

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Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...
11:24am Mon 11 Mar 13

As far as I know the race for life for females, which my daughter participates in, has never had any men wanting to participate so there is no problem. The same way I have never been aware of any nun wishing to join a priory with the monks or vice versa.

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Wave says...
1:23pm Mon 11 Mar 13

Faiths are allowed to exclude a gender (in their own property) if it causes offence to the faith. Unreasonable as that sounds.

I have done reading on equality subject so know a bit about it, though I wouldn't say i'm an expert.

I'm going on the grounds that the race is non competitive (it even promotes walking of it) so can not use the sporting exception.

It might get away with it if somehow it's a members only club event, and the membership management can dictate gender rules legally.
it would still be 'unfair' in my view.

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Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...
2:27pm Mon 11 Mar 13

There are toilets for women and toilets for men so would it be acceptable for me to go in the men's toilets and vice versa.

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Wave says...
5:36pm Mon 11 Mar 13

Anything that involves common cause for embarrassment or undress is exempt from the discrimination act.
Might also be an offence under other laws.

In regards to other peoples comments:
People seem to be having a personal go at me now calling me names, though I do not know what a W743^@* is to be honest.
I do not like being called shallow either. The Packet has rules against doing this to other members but seems to not mind the abuse I get.
If you can't post about matters of debate rather than just simple name calling then don't bother posting. Gill does a good job in actually countering and engaging rather than blatant digs.

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meerkats says...
4:26pm Wed 13 Mar 13

Wave wrote:
Anything that involves common cause for embarrassment or undress is exempt from the discrimination act.
Might also be an offence under other laws.

In regards to other peoples comments:
People seem to be having a personal go at me now calling me names, though I do not know what a W743^@* is to be honest.
I do not like being called shallow either. The Packet has rules against doing this to other members but seems to not mind the abuse I get.
If you can't post about matters of debate rather than just simple name calling then don't bother posting. Gill does a good job in actually countering and engaging rather than blatant digs.
dont know what that means either, but you say people are calling you names ,that is the only one i can see ,so its one person ,not people and yes it is wrong for people to use these pages to make personal digs at someone.

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Jo Kernow says...
5:31pm Wed 13 Mar 13

Wave i seem to remember you telling Gill she was deluded with a brain processing ailment, she didnt return the insult i noticed, you are right about her though she can engage with people and counter debate and does not get personal, she obviously took your comment in good humour as it was probably meant, but no one should make comments such as omdurman did to her on the privatisation article.

As for the race for life, in my book it dosnt matter who takes part as long it raises awareness and money.

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meerkats says...
6:00pm Wed 13 Mar 13

Jo Kernow wrote:
Wave i seem to remember you telling Gill she was deluded with a brain processing ailment, she didnt return the insult i noticed, you are right about her though she can engage with people and counter debate and does not get personal, she obviously took your comment in good humour as it was probably meant, but no one should make comments such as omdurman did to her on the privatisation article.

As for the race for life, in my book it dosnt matter who takes part as long it raises awareness and money.
well said.

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Wave says...
11:46pm Wed 13 Mar 13

@Jo I am disturbed to read that you consider my observation and diagnosis of delusion as an insult, when you visit your doctor and he/she informs you of what you have, do you tell them to refrain and ask them to not insult you?
I care about people that have a medical ailment. I have shown no disrespect or negativity personally to Gill, and from my comments and discussion with Gill about other topics in the Packet there has been no evidence of any issue I have with Gill at all.
You or anyone else is still welcome to take my diagnosis apart and contend it, but delusion by definition is 'an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder'.
A UK citizen with a religion such as Christianity has a mental disorder.
I do not consider it funny or something to mock. Just because the majority of society does not consider it an illness does not mean they are correct. This is a 70%+ religious country unfortunately.

Also it is not about who takes part in the Race for Life, it is about who is permitted to take part. It is illegal discrimination in my view. What your book says does not count for the law.

And Meerkats doesn't really contribute to a discussion by basically saying "+1". This is not a vote, it's a place for comment, but i guess it's up to you how you think you are worthy of contribution to a topic, even if it just to say nothing other than you agree with someone else lol.

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Jo Kernow says...
1:21am Thu 14 Mar 13

Wave i am not getting drawn into a protracted argument with you, but i dont think you have any right to diagnose people on this website, i think it could have far reaching consequences, you have no proof to substantiate your religion and deluded theory and i dont think it is right for you, as you have no authority, to suggest that people have brain processing ailments on this site, I notice you have already had three comments removed from three different articles including this one. You also refer to people on this article as ruffians that is in my opinion an insult and meerkats is not a ruffian. Like i said i am not getting drawn into one of your debates.

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Jo Kernow says...
1:30am Thu 14 Mar 13

on a final note from me, with someone like you Wave suggesting that people on this website have mental disorders is in my opinion totally irresponsible, and as for omdurman his/her comment to Gill was just plain discusting.

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meerkats says...
7:48am Thu 14 Mar 13

Wave wrote:
@Jo I am disturbed to read that you consider my observation and diagnosis of delusion as an insult, when you visit your doctor and he/she informs you of what you have, do you tell them to refrain and ask them to not insult you?
I care about people that have a medical ailment. I have shown no disrespect or negativity personally to Gill, and from my comments and discussion with Gill about other topics in the Packet there has been no evidence of any issue I have with Gill at all.
You or anyone else is still welcome to take my diagnosis apart and contend it, but delusion by definition is 'an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder'.
A UK citizen with a religion such as Christianity has a mental disorder.
I do not consider it funny or something to mock. Just because the majority of society does not consider it an illness does not mean they are correct. This is a 70%+ religious country unfortunately.

Also it is not about who takes part in the Race for Life, it is about who is permitted to take part. It is illegal discrimination in my view. What your book says does not count for the law.

And Meerkats doesn't really contribute to a discussion by basically saying "+1". This is not a vote, it's a place for comment, but i guess it's up to you how you think you are worthy of contribution to a topic, even if it just to say nothing other than you agree with someone else lol.
I am just as worthy to contribute to a topic as you are , I am quite aware its not a vote , but if i happen to agree with another comment then i will say so.

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meerkats says...
8:01am Thu 14 Mar 13

Wave, on a previous comment you referred to us as ruffians , definition of ruffian - tough rowdy person. thug/gangster .hoodlum/ villain. violent lawless person. just to inform you that i do not fall into any of these groups. I had actually missed that comment until Jo Kernow included it in her previous comment.

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Wave says...
1:27pm Thu 14 Mar 13

My comment of ruffians was based on the 2 comments against me, I didnt realise it was the same user. Also it was as figure of speech, an observation of protest at the behaviour I read. Not aimed aimed at the others, though that was not clear. To make it clear I don't think you are ruffians.

Jo, If I wish to highlight a view of diagnosis regarding faiths and mental disorders that is up to me.
It is not meant as an insult, and in fact I think it it more responsible to mention it than keep it quiet.
I also don't need proof of 'my theory' as it's not a theory. Delusion is clearly defined in meaning and people believing in a god is exactly a case by definition of a delusion.

When people stop seeing mental health as such a taboo, maybe it wont be so hard to talk about.

Though I point out the disorder in others i don't by that imply I am any better overall a person or wonderfully healthy. I don't have a delusion over religion, but I might have one or many over something else, or I might have a mental health illness in a completely different area psychologically. It doesn't matter. You are welcome to find one in me, as long as you never use it to put me down or imply I have less worth.
Rumour or speculation is not warranted though.
Delusion is not a theory.

The context over the previous debates were over faith.
It's up to you if you don't want to get involved of course.

And Meerkats I'm not stopping you voting yay or nay about matters, I was just perhaps suggesting give more detail.

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Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...
1:30pm Thu 14 Mar 13

meerkats wrote:
Wave, on a previous comment you referred to us as ruffians , definition of ruffian - tough rowdy person. thug/gangster .hoodlum/ villain. violent lawless person. just to inform you that i do not fall into any of these groups. I had actually missed that comment until Jo Kernow included it in her previous comment.
I agree you are not a ruffian meerkats and at least you do not have a mental disorder like I apparently have.

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Wave says...
1:39pm Thu 14 Mar 13

How do you know Meerkats doesn't have a mental disorder.
That's very presumptuous!

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Wave says...
1:41pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Maybe we should say everyone has got one until proven otherwise. That's probably fairest.

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Wave says...
1:48pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Bringing it back to cancer. Although a charity might say to stop cancer in it's tracks. Science now sees that cancer is a natural process of the human body. Just like ageing. We are biologically designed to have cancer. Research is moving towards not preventing cancer or stopping it, but how we can adapt to it's effect on us, to not make it so harmful, so we can almost live with it inside us and live a normal life, with it operating in the background feeling relatively healthy.

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meerkats says...
3:12pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Wave wrote:
My comment of ruffians was based on the 2 comments against me, I didnt realise it was the same user. Also it was as figure of speech, an observation of protest at the behaviour I read. Not aimed aimed at the others, though that was not clear. To make it clear I don't think you are ruffians.

Jo, If I wish to highlight a view of diagnosis regarding faiths and mental disorders that is up to me.
It is not meant as an insult, and in fact I think it it more responsible to mention it than keep it quiet.
I also don't need proof of 'my theory' as it's not a theory. Delusion is clearly defined in meaning and people believing in a god is exactly a case by definition of a delusion.

When people stop seeing mental health as such a taboo, maybe it wont be so hard to talk about.

Though I point out the disorder in others i don't by that imply I am any better overall a person or wonderfully healthy. I don't have a delusion over religion, but I might have one or many over something else, or I might have a mental health illness in a completely different area psychologically. It doesn't matter. You are welcome to find one in me, as long as you never use it to put me down or imply I have less worth.
Rumour or speculation is not warranted though.
Delusion is not a theory.

The context over the previous debates were over faith.
It's up to you if you don't want to get involved of course.

And Meerkats I'm not stopping you voting yay or nay about matters, I was just perhaps suggesting give more detail.
you have not got the right to stop anyone posting on these pages and i dont need your permission. As for your latter comment i do not have a mental disorder and i am getting tired of reading your ridiculous comments now.

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Wave says...
3:16pm Thu 14 Mar 13

I'll be the judge of that.
Rights are not required.

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meerkats says...
3:25pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Wave, on a previous comment you referred to us as ruffians , definition of ruffian - tough rowdy person. thug/gangster .hoodlum/ villain. violent lawless person. just to inform you that i do not fall into any of these groups. I had actually missed that comment until Jo Kernow included it in her previous comment.
I agree you are not a ruffian meerkats and at least you do not have a mental disorder like I apparently have.
Thankyou Gill. seems whatever i say on this article . Wave is waiting to have a dig at me , so i will probably refrain from posting anymore , as it is not what these pages were meant for.

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Wave says...
3:35pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Meerkats what is your issue?
I never had a problem with you, I actually wanted to hear more from you not less.

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Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...
5:16pm Thu 14 Mar 13

meerkats wrote:
Gillian Zella Martin 09 wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Wave, on a previous comment you referred to us as ruffians , definition of ruffian - tough rowdy person. thug/gangster .hoodlum/ villain. violent lawless person. just to inform you that i do not fall into any of these groups. I had actually missed that comment until Jo Kernow included it in her previous comment.
I agree you are not a ruffian meerkats and at least you do not have a mental disorder like I apparently have.
Thankyou Gill. seems whatever i say on this article . Wave is waiting to have a dig at me , so i will probably refrain from posting anymore , as it is not what these pages were meant for.
meerkats don't ever stop posting I nearly did on more than one occasion but someone whos advice I very much respect told me not to stop.

Whoever would have thought an article on a charity event as good as this one could cause so much controversy.

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meerkats says...
5:35pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Thanks Gill .i will have a think about it. Race for life has been going for many years and i have never heard any discriminatory or negative comments until now . well done to all those who are taking part , i have done the Falmouth one twice before but am unable to this year. hope you raise a lot of money for this worthy cause.

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meerkats says...
5:37pm Thu 14 Mar 13

should read hope they and not you.

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Wave says...
6:05pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Discrimination will stick around for years until someone calls it out.

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molesworth says...
6:07pm Thu 14 Mar 13

There's nothing finer than seeing hundreds of ladies, old and young, running along the seafront. I for one am all for gender prejudice and I will be there urging them on. My London bolt hole has never recovered since they let females into the bar after 7pm at the weekends. Thank God Mrs M has never shown an interest in hanging out with old gits such as myself.
Quite agree with you, Wave, about Christians and mental illness by the way...

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