Helston woman's £5,900 benefit fraud

A benefit fraudster from Helston has pleaded guilty to two counts of fraud totalling £5,941.76.

The case at Truro Magistrates Court on Friday saw Amanda Mather (43) of Castle Green, Helston pleaded guilty to two counts of benefit fraud after failing to promptly report to Cornwall Council that her household set-up had changed.

She also failied to promptly report that she was in receipt of increased earnings. 

Miss Hurrell was fined £100 and also ordered to pay a victim surcharge of £20 and £50 towards the council’s investigation and legal costs.

The overpaid benefits are being recovered by Cornwall Council separately from the court action.

Cornwall Council operates a confidential fraud hotline on freephone 0800 7316125.

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3:35pm Mon 10 Jun 13

meerkats says...

seems to be two different names in this article
seems to be two different names in this article meerkats
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3:35pm Mon 10 Jun 13

meerkats says...

seems to be two different names in this article
seems to be two different names in this article meerkats
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3:57pm Mon 10 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

So let me get this right, Amanda Marther was the only one that pleaded guilty to benefit fraud and then Miss Hurrell, who ever she was, received a fine!!!!!
Wonder who Cornwall Council will recover the money from!!
So let me get this right, Amanda Marther was the only one that pleaded guilty to benefit fraud and then Miss Hurrell, who ever she was, received a fine!!!!! Wonder who Cornwall Council will recover the money from!! Gillian Zella Martin 09
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4:04pm Mon 10 Jun 13

victoriameldrew says...

confused.com!!!
confused.com!!! victoriameldrew
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4:05pm Mon 10 Jun 13

meerkats says...

Very confusing and yet another case of benefit fraud, its almost a weekly thing now that we read these stories.
Very confusing and yet another case of benefit fraud, its almost a weekly thing now that we read these stories. meerkats
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4:14pm Mon 10 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

Perhaps one of them was the solicitor.

I've made it even more confusing because I put Marther instead of Mather.
Perhaps one of them was the solicitor. I've made it even more confusing because I put Marther instead of Mather. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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8:14am Tue 11 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

There has been another benefit fraud article added today to the website, what always fascinates me is why some benefit fraud articles can be commented on and yet some can't. What is the difference I wonder?
I would be I interested to know how many have been reported in the Packet this year alone, I don't really have time to trawl through the archives.
There has been another benefit fraud article added today to the website, what always fascinates me is why some benefit fraud articles can be commented on and yet some can't. What is the difference I wonder? I would be I interested to know how many have been reported in the Packet this year alone, I don't really have time to trawl through the archives. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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7:08pm Tue 11 Jun 13

Tyrone Shulace says...

meerkats wrote:
Very confusing and yet another case of benefit fraud, its almost a weekly thing now that we read these stories.
Amazing isn't it, hard to believe why so many 'presumably intelligent' people take the risk. It's not like its all young people with not much life experience.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: Very confusing and yet another case of benefit fraud, its almost a weekly thing now that we read these stories.[/p][/quote]Amazing isn't it, hard to believe why so many 'presumably intelligent' people take the risk. It's not like its all young people with not much life experience. Tyrone Shulace
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9:55pm Tue 11 Jun 13

meerkats says...

Tyrone Shulace wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Very confusing and yet another case of benefit fraud, its almost a weekly thing now that we read these stories.
Amazing isn't it, hard to believe why so many 'presumably intelligent' people take the risk. It's not like its all young people with not much life experience.
43 is still young !! lol. i will have a 0 on the end of my age this year ,but wont say what precedes it.
[quote][p][bold]Tyrone Shulace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: Very confusing and yet another case of benefit fraud, its almost a weekly thing now that we read these stories.[/p][/quote]Amazing isn't it, hard to believe why so many 'presumably intelligent' people take the risk. It's not like its all young people with not much life experience.[/p][/quote]43 is still young !! lol. i will have a 0 on the end of my age this year ,but wont say what precedes it. meerkats
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11:20am Wed 12 Jun 13

Tyrone Shulace says...

Well i'm 110 lol, seriously though, I just meant some of those starting out having left home that might not have much experience of life, I could understand them taking a risk, not condoning though, but for the 'slightly older ones' who should have more life experience why take the risk however short of money they be, although with some they are not what I would call short of money anyway.
Well i'm 110 lol, seriously though, I just meant some of those starting out having left home that might not have much experience of life, I could understand them taking a risk, not condoning though, but for the 'slightly older ones' who should have more life experience why take the risk however short of money they be, although with some they are not what I would call short of money anyway. Tyrone Shulace
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11:44am Wed 12 Jun 13

meerkats says...

Tyrone Shulace wrote:
Well i'm 110 lol, seriously though, I just meant some of those starting out having left home that might not have much experience of life, I could understand them taking a risk, not condoning though, but for the 'slightly older ones' who should have more life experience why take the risk however short of money they be, although with some they are not what I would call short of money anyway.
I agree with your comment ,with so many being caught it should be a deterrent to anyone anyway. Being publicly named and shamed would be enough to put me off not that i would or have ever done it.
[quote][p][bold]Tyrone Shulace[/bold] wrote: Well i'm 110 lol, seriously though, I just meant some of those starting out having left home that might not have much experience of life, I could understand them taking a risk, not condoning though, but for the 'slightly older ones' who should have more life experience why take the risk however short of money they be, although with some they are not what I would call short of money anyway.[/p][/quote]I agree with your comment ,with so many being caught it should be a deterrent to anyone anyway. Being publicly named and shamed would be enough to put me off not that i would or have ever done it. meerkats
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12:57pm Wed 12 Jun 13

ronedgcumbe says...

It would be interesting to know at what rate the payments are recovered by the council as they always seem to be very large amounts from people with very small incomes.
I tend to feel sorry for them as the must know when they are doing that eventualy they will get cought.
It would be interesting to know at what rate the payments are recovered by the council as they always seem to be very large amounts from people with very small incomes. I tend to feel sorry for them as the must know when they are doing that eventualy they will get cought. ronedgcumbe
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1:13pm Wed 12 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

I disagree they are all people on very small incomes, some benefit fraud offenders are working, some have partners/husbands/wi
ves who are also working, some do not notify Cornwall Council when their circumstances change and their income increases. Sorry, I think it is down to greed. The rules are there for a reason and limit is set, why should those who work subsidise those that abuse the system.
I disagree they are all people on very small incomes, some benefit fraud offenders are working, some have partners/husbands/wi ves who are also working, some do not notify Cornwall Council when their circumstances change and their income increases. Sorry, I think it is down to greed. The rules are there for a reason and limit is set, why should those who work subsidise those that abuse the system. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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1:37pm Wed 12 Jun 13

meerkats says...

I expect that if the claimants wanted to claim a higher benefit amount they wouldnt forget which seems to be the excuse for not informing cc of their income changes in most cases.
I expect that if the claimants wanted to claim a higher benefit amount they wouldnt forget which seems to be the excuse for not informing cc of their income changes in most cases. meerkats
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1:59pm Wed 12 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

I don't believe there is any way someone can forget or not realise they need to notify the council change of circumstances, most if not all benefits communications remind one to notify change of circumstances. When my husband died I claimed council tax benefit for a while, when my circumstances changed I notified the benefits people in the one stop shop in Helston within three days ( the next available day the benefits people were in attendence there) When I received my next council tax bill it was incorrect and the direct debit was no longer set up on it and I put it down to me having just moved, however I still rang the benefits office directly because the bill was clearly wrong. I was told the information had not filtered through from the one stop shop (I had written proof that I had attended and notified the one stop shop) the benefits office said it was not a problem and just adjusted the bill set up the direct debit again for my new address and sent a new bill out. People must surely know if they are getting a discount or being paid a benefit that they shouldn't be and they must know if their circumstances have changed. Like you say meerkats they probably wouldn't hesitate to notify if they could claim more.
I don't believe there is any way someone can forget or not realise they need to notify the council change of circumstances, most if not all benefits communications remind one to notify change of circumstances. When my husband died I claimed council tax benefit for a while, when my circumstances changed I notified the benefits people in the one stop shop in Helston within three days ( the next available day the benefits people were in attendence there) When I received my next council tax bill it was incorrect and the direct debit was no longer set up on it and I put it down to me having just moved, however I still rang the benefits office directly because the bill was clearly wrong. I was told the information had not filtered through from the one stop shop (I had written proof that I had attended and notified the one stop shop) the benefits office said it was not a problem and just adjusted the bill set up the direct debit again for my new address and sent a new bill out. People must surely know if they are getting a discount or being paid a benefit that they shouldn't be and they must know if their circumstances have changed. Like you say meerkats they probably wouldn't hesitate to notify if they could claim more. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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3:03pm Wed 12 Jun 13

meerkats says...

i think forgetfulness and not realising they need to notify CC of any changes are poor excuses. I dont agree with Ron that its people on small incomes.
i think forgetfulness and not realising they need to notify CC of any changes are poor excuses. I dont agree with Ron that its people on small incomes. meerkats
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3:08pm Wed 12 Jun 13

ronedgcumbe says...

It does make you wonder with the huge amount of money that needs to be recovered how much is being paid out to landlord in housing benefit.
What this county needs is a lot more social housing to create jobs and stop the bill for private landlords going out of control.
It does make you wonder with the huge amount of money that needs to be recovered how much is being paid out to landlord in housing benefit. What this county needs is a lot more social housing to create jobs and stop the bill for private landlords going out of control. ronedgcumbe
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3:14pm Wed 12 Jun 13

ronedgcumbe says...

meerkats wrote:
i think forgetfulness and not realising they need to notify CC of any changes are poor excuses. I dont agree with Ron that its people on small incomes.
With the huge rise in employment now being short term and part time peoples income often fluctuates weekly. I am not saying there are not benefit cheats but sometimes the whole facts need to be looked at.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: i think forgetfulness and not realising they need to notify CC of any changes are poor excuses. I dont agree with Ron that its people on small incomes.[/p][/quote]With the huge rise in employment now being short term and part time peoples income often fluctuates weekly. I am not saying there are not benefit cheats but sometimes the whole facts need to be looked at. ronedgcumbe
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3:15pm Wed 12 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

I agree with you there Ron.
There needs to a reform with the planning policies so that when developers build they have to incorporate a much higher percentage of affordable to buy and to rent within the developments.
I agree with you there Ron. There needs to a reform with the planning policies so that when developers build they have to incorporate a much higher percentage of affordable to buy and to rent within the developments. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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3:18pm Wed 12 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
meerkats wrote:
i think forgetfulness and not realising they need to notify CC of any changes are poor excuses. I dont agree with Ron that its people on small incomes.
With the huge rise in employment now being short term and part time peoples income often fluctuates weekly. I am not saying there are not benefit cheats but sometimes the whole facts need to be looked at.
It must take quite sometime to build up that amount of benefits that shouldn't have been paid though.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: i think forgetfulness and not realising they need to notify CC of any changes are poor excuses. I dont agree with Ron that its people on small incomes.[/p][/quote]With the huge rise in employment now being short term and part time peoples income often fluctuates weekly. I am not saying there are not benefit cheats but sometimes the whole facts need to be looked at.[/p][/quote]It must take quite sometime to build up that amount of benefits that shouldn't have been paid though. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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3:23pm Wed 12 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

I believe you are given a fair amount of time to notify of benefit changes of circumstances, its not like if you forget for a week or two. If you look at the amounts each time that are re claimed by Cornwall Council then the false claims must have been going on for a fair amount of time. If there was any doubt at all, they would not be taken to court.
I believe you are given a fair amount of time to notify of benefit changes of circumstances, its not like if you forget for a week or two. If you look at the amounts each time that are re claimed by Cornwall Council then the false claims must have been going on for a fair amount of time. If there was any doubt at all, they would not be taken to court. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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3:34pm Wed 12 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

When they built all those houses up on the May Tree estate they should have built a large proportion of social rented there.
When they built all those houses up on the May Tree estate they should have built a large proportion of social rented there. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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8:27pm Wed 12 Jun 13

Tyrone Shulace says...

I agree Gill, it's about time developers were refused unless they are prepared to supply a lot more social housing to rent. Everyone was banging on about new councillors needed before the election now we have some new ones will we see a change.

Ron, private landlords should have the amount of rent they can charge capped.
I agree Gill, it's about time developers were refused unless they are prepared to supply a lot more social housing to rent. Everyone was banging on about new councillors needed before the election now we have some new ones will we see a change. Ron, private landlords should have the amount of rent they can charge capped. Tyrone Shulace
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7:11am Thu 13 Jun 13

ronedgcumbe says...

Tyrone Shulace wrote:
I agree Gill, it's about time developers were refused unless they are prepared to supply a lot more social housing to rent. Everyone was banging on about new councillors needed before the election now we have some new ones will we see a change.

Ron, private landlords should have the amount of rent they can charge capped.
I agree Tyrone when people are paying so much of there earning for housing a cap would be the first step. Unfortunetly the town council does not agree as they think it is fine to give out the towns money to landlords via the hbip which justs add to the problem.
[quote][p][bold]Tyrone Shulace[/bold] wrote: I agree Gill, it's about time developers were refused unless they are prepared to supply a lot more social housing to rent. Everyone was banging on about new councillors needed before the election now we have some new ones will we see a change. Ron, private landlords should have the amount of rent they can charge capped.[/p][/quote]I agree Tyrone when people are paying so much of there earning for housing a cap would be the first step. Unfortunetly the town council does not agree as they think it is fine to give out the towns money to landlords via the hbip which justs add to the problem. ronedgcumbe
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7:18am Thu 13 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

A cap in private rents would require government legislation. Helston town council have no control over it.
A cap in private rents would require government legislation. Helston town council have no control over it. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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7:28am Thu 13 Jun 13

ronedgcumbe says...

Gillian Zella Martin 09 wrote:
A cap in private rents would require government legislation. Helston town council have no control over it.
Yes but do you not think by them giving out the towns money to private landlords they are sending out entirly the wrong signal.
[quote][p][bold]Gillian Zella Martin 09[/bold] wrote: A cap in private rents would require government legislation. Helston town council have no control over it.[/p][/quote]Yes but do you not think by them giving out the towns money to private landlords they are sending out entirly the wrong signal. ronedgcumbe
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7:52am Thu 13 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

I can understand what you mean, it was though done with the intention of benefitting Helston as a town not to purely benefit landlords or business people. If it acheives the required result then surely it is worth it, and like I previously said, the business people do give to the community with things like the Christmas lights. I do agree with you on one of your previous comments on that subject that it would be better if the town council were the ones to be seen in complete control of the money as town Councillors are elected by the public and can be voted in and out whereas HBIP members cannot. Ultimately though it is the town councils responsibility whatever the money is spent on as they allocate it out to the HBIP in full knowledge of what it is to be spent on.
I can understand what you mean, it was though done with the intention of benefitting Helston as a town not to purely benefit landlords or business people. If it acheives the required result then surely it is worth it, and like I previously said, the business people do give to the community with things like the Christmas lights. I do agree with you on one of your previous comments on that subject that it would be better if the town council were the ones to be seen in complete control of the money as town Councillors are elected by the public and can be voted in and out whereas HBIP members cannot. Ultimately though it is the town councils responsibility whatever the money is spent on as they allocate it out to the HBIP in full knowledge of what it is to be spent on. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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8:40am Thu 13 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

Perhaps the Packet should have run a poll on the grants.
Perhaps the Packet should have run a poll on the grants. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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12:40pm Thu 13 Jun 13

fred from helston says...

Gillian Zella Martin 09 wrote:
Perhaps the Packet should have run a poll on the grants.
Good idea. My vote is they stop handing out our money.
[quote][p][bold]Gillian Zella Martin 09[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the Packet should have run a poll on the grants.[/p][/quote]Good idea. My vote is they stop handing out our money. fred from helston
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12:53pm Thu 13 Jun 13

David Pascoe says...

A constant theme through all the debates both locally and nationally is that because you are poor then its somehow "alright" to defraud the benefit system.

What an absolute slander. Lots of poor people have a thing called pride, and would no sooner defraud the benefits system than fly to the moon.

There most certainly should be a cap on what benefits you can claim if you are getting housing benefit.

Sorry Ron, I actually think the Town Council, and the HBIP, have done a superb job using the 106 money to make Helston better. I know you dont agree, and you keep baning on all the time, but I notice in the last election that you did not get enough votes, so it looks as if most of the people in Helston do not agree with you and clearly think you are wrong.

Some things I agree with you, but not this one.
A constant theme through all the debates both locally and nationally is that because you are poor then its somehow "alright" to defraud the benefit system. What an absolute slander. Lots of poor people have a thing called pride, and would no sooner defraud the benefits system than fly to the moon. There most certainly should be a cap on what benefits you can claim if you are getting housing benefit. Sorry Ron, I actually think the Town Council, and the HBIP, have done a superb job using the 106 money to make Helston better. I know you dont agree, and you keep baning on all the time, but I notice in the last election that you did not get enough votes, so it looks as if most of the people in Helston do not agree with you and clearly think you are wrong. Some things I agree with you, but not this one. David Pascoe
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2:33pm Thu 13 Jun 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

I think anyone actually convicted of benefit fraud should be ineligible to claim anything again for x amount of years. That surely might act as a better deterrent.
I survive on a very low income, I do know what it is like to lose everything and struggle for money, it would never prevent me from remaining honest though.
I think anyone actually convicted of benefit fraud should be ineligible to claim anything again for x amount of years. That surely might act as a better deterrent. I survive on a very low income, I do know what it is like to lose everything and struggle for money, it would never prevent me from remaining honest though. Gillian Zella Martin 09
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