Helston Rugby club asks for Penrose cash for playing field

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Helston Rugby Club hopes to take over the King George V Playing Field – and has asked for the help of the town council to do so.

Member Paul Duval and club chairman Brian Hosken were at the last meeting of Helston Town Council, asking members to consider their bid for the cash recently made available from the sale of 3 Penrose Road.

Handing over a letter from the club treasurer Martin Laity, Mr Duval said: “We would very much like to be |included in any application process for the disposal of funds and hope |consideration can be given to us, as well as many other community |organisations.”

The club grounds are already part of the playing field and officials hope to take on the land up to the boundary, next to the path leading to the |children’s play equipment.

Speaking after the meeting Mr Hosken said: “We would maintain it and keep it for community sport.”

The club also needs money towards its development plans. New changing rooms are needed to cater for ladies’ teams and youth teams, while the club would also like to create a separate |meeting room.

“This would not only be for the club other groups,” added Mr Hosken. “Because of the bar they can’t always meet – they might not want other |people hearing what they’re |discussing.”

The club is already in talks with Cornwall Council about the takeover and is waiting to hear what the cost might be.

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9:05am Sat 30 Nov 13

ronedgcumbe says...

I agree lots of questions and no answers as to what the mayors secret was but if it was to come to splitting the money up this is clearly a better way then giving it back to the money pit that is 3 penrose road.
I agree lots of questions and no answers as to what the mayors secret was but if it was to come to splitting the money up this is clearly a better way then giving it back to the money pit that is 3 penrose road. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 16

3:10pm Sat 30 Nov 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

There are many worthy causes within Helston and I suppose everyone has their own personal choice, I personally would like to see the Epworth Hall and the museum receive financial help, these are well established places that have served Helston long term and attract a great variety of people to them for various reasons. I believe essential funding is required by the Epworth Hall and if Helston is to promote its cultural facilities alongside everything else the town has to offer, then linking the Epworth Hall, museum and CAST at 3 Penrose Rd in a trio bid for funding, to me makes sense. I wish them all success.
There are many worthy causes within Helston and I suppose everyone has their own personal choice, I personally would like to see the Epworth Hall and the museum receive financial help, these are well established places that have served Helston long term and attract a great variety of people to them for various reasons. I believe essential funding is required by the Epworth Hall and if Helston is to promote its cultural facilities alongside everything else the town has to offer, then linking the Epworth Hall, museum and CAST at 3 Penrose Rd in a trio bid for funding, to me makes sense. I wish them all success. Gillian Zella Martin 09
  • Score: 11

3:57pm Sat 30 Nov 13

ronedgcumbe says...

I believe the museum and epworth hall can seek alternative funding and as for supporting a derelict building that took the town council years to offload would be downright irresponsible.
I think if the money does not go toward a community centre it should be used to enhanse the majority not just the more vocal minority.
I believe the museum and epworth hall can seek alternative funding and as for supporting a derelict building that took the town council years to offload would be downright irresponsible. I think if the money does not go toward a community centre it should be used to enhanse the majority not just the more vocal minority. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 12

4:17pm Sat 30 Nov 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
I believe the museum and epworth hall can seek alternative funding and as for supporting a derelict building that took the town council years to offload would be downright irresponsible.
I think if the money does not go toward a community centre it should be used to enhanse the majority not just the more vocal minority.
Ron, any group/club/project/o
rganisations such as those to which we refer in Helston etc, can seek funding/apply for grants etc from various sources, not just the Epworth Hall and museum. I do not understand quite to whom you refer when you say, "the majority" and "more vocal minority" would you care to elaborate? It may then give your statement more foundation.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: I believe the museum and epworth hall can seek alternative funding and as for supporting a derelict building that took the town council years to offload would be downright irresponsible. I think if the money does not go toward a community centre it should be used to enhanse the majority not just the more vocal minority.[/p][/quote]Ron, any group/club/project/o rganisations such as those to which we refer in Helston etc, can seek funding/apply for grants etc from various sources, not just the Epworth Hall and museum. I do not understand quite to whom you refer when you say, "the majority" and "more vocal minority" would you care to elaborate? It may then give your statement more foundation. Gillian Zella Martin 09
  • Score: 20

4:35pm Sat 30 Nov 13

ronedgcumbe says...

Gill I am well aware any organisation can apply I simply stating that some are more worthy to apply for this community money that others.
I am sure the majority of people have no interest in an arts centre and those that do should simply fund it themselves. The money should go to benefit the most.
Gill I am well aware any organisation can apply I simply stating that some are more worthy to apply for this community money that others. I am sure the majority of people have no interest in an arts centre and those that do should simply fund it themselves. The money should go to benefit the most. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 15

4:41pm Sat 30 Nov 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Gill I am well aware any organisation can apply I simply stating that some are more worthy to apply for this community money that others.
I am sure the majority of people have no interest in an arts centre and those that do should simply fund it themselves. The money should go to benefit the most.
Thank you for your reply, but who decides which benefits the most ? Maybe they should have a public vote as opposed to purely a town council vote ?
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Gill I am well aware any organisation can apply I simply stating that some are more worthy to apply for this community money that others. I am sure the majority of people have no interest in an arts centre and those that do should simply fund it themselves. The money should go to benefit the most.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your reply, but who decides which benefits the most ? Maybe they should have a public vote as opposed to purely a town council vote ? Gillian Zella Martin 09
  • Score: 22

4:50pm Sat 30 Nov 13

ronedgcumbe says...

Yes I think that's a good idea and would stop the money being carved to between certain councillors pet projects.
Yes I think that's a good idea and would stop the money being carved to between certain councillors pet projects. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 14

4:57pm Sat 30 Nov 13

ronedgcumbe says...

Should read carved up obviously.
Should read carved up obviously. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 3

5:49pm Sat 30 Nov 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Yes I think that's a good idea and would stop the money being carved to between certain councillors pet projects.
That cannot happen Ron, because as you are aware, if the Town Council vote on this alone, any councillor with an interest would have to declare so, and not participate in the vote.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Yes I think that's a good idea and would stop the money being carved to between certain councillors pet projects.[/p][/quote]That cannot happen Ron, because as you are aware, if the Town Council vote on this alone, any councillor with an interest would have to declare so, and not participate in the vote. Gillian Zella Martin 09
  • Score: 21

7:13pm Sat 30 Nov 13

ronedgcumbe says...

So what happened last time then.
So what happened last time then. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 20

7:24pm Sat 30 Nov 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
So what happened last time then.
You are right Ron, I admit I didn't agree with how proceedings went in the past.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: So what happened last time then.[/p][/quote]You are right Ron, I admit I didn't agree with how proceedings went in the past. Gillian Zella Martin 09
  • Score: 22

8:04pm Sat 30 Nov 13

Rainbow over Helston says...

Ron Edgcumbe, how can you say no one is interested in an art centre, Tate St Ives brings thousands of people into St Ives. Anyone could say about any of the things that people should pay for them themselves. So what would you like to see the money spent on?
Ron Edgcumbe, how can you say no one is interested in an art centre, Tate St Ives brings thousands of people into St Ives. Anyone could say about any of the things that people should pay for them themselves. So what would you like to see the money spent on? Rainbow over Helston
  • Score: -14

10:34am Sun 1 Dec 13

ronedgcumbe says...

Hardly a serious comparison the tate is a stunning building in a landmark location. It is not universally popular with the local people and whether or not it actualy brings many to the town is open to question St Ives has allways been busy.
As to who should get some money lets hope many organisations apply and some good can be done.
Hardly a serious comparison the tate is a stunning building in a landmark location. It is not universally popular with the local people and whether or not it actualy brings many to the town is open to question St Ives has allways been busy. As to who should get some money lets hope many organisations apply and some good can be done. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 15

10:41am Sun 1 Dec 13

krazyitchkatie says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Hardly a serious comparison the tate is a stunning building in a landmark location. It is not universally popular with the local people and whether or not it actualy brings many to the town is open to question St Ives has allways been busy.
As to who should get some money lets hope many organisations apply and some good can be done.
In your opinion...

I do agree though, a public vote would not only be very interesting, but probably more in the towns best interests.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Hardly a serious comparison the tate is a stunning building in a landmark location. It is not universally popular with the local people and whether or not it actualy brings many to the town is open to question St Ives has allways been busy. As to who should get some money lets hope many organisations apply and some good can be done.[/p][/quote]In your opinion... I do agree though, a public vote would not only be very interesting, but probably more in the towns best interests. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: 13

2:25pm Sun 1 Dec 13

Rainbow over Helston says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Hardly a serious comparison the tate is a stunning building in a landmark location. It is not universally popular with the local people and whether or not it actualy brings many to the town is open to question St Ives has allways been busy.
As to who should get some money lets hope many organisations apply and some good can be done.
Maybe its not a comparison but you have no idea what public opinion is in St Ives or Helston unless you've surveyed everyone for their opinions.

As for hoping the money will do some good, of course it will do some good whichever groups get some of it.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Hardly a serious comparison the tate is a stunning building in a landmark location. It is not universally popular with the local people and whether or not it actualy brings many to the town is open to question St Ives has allways been busy. As to who should get some money lets hope many organisations apply and some good can be done.[/p][/quote]Maybe its not a comparison but you have no idea what public opinion is in St Ives or Helston unless you've surveyed everyone for their opinions. As for hoping the money will do some good, of course it will do some good whichever groups get some of it. Rainbow over Helston
  • Score: -3

4:44pm Sun 1 Dec 13

Matt Tonkins says...

krazyitchkatie wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Hardly a serious comparison the tate is a stunning building in a landmark location. It is not universally popular with the local people and whether or not it actualy brings many to the town is open to question St Ives has allways been busy.
As to who should get some money lets hope many organisations apply and some good can be done.
In your opinion...

I do agree though, a public vote would not only be very interesting, but probably more in the towns best interests.
I would agree, it would be very interesting. However, would it be in the town’s interest? I can see that a small majority of Helston would actually vote, just like the amount of people that returned the town’s questionnaire. If that is the case, then the vote will be slightly biased? At the end of the day, I suppose the town Cllr’s were appointed by the people, and as such were trusted with making the decisions based on the needs of their constituency. So surely it would amount to the same thing??
Who really knows? But it would be interesting to see which way a public vote went if they are given the chance.
Has Helston ever held a public vote for such things before?
[quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Hardly a serious comparison the tate is a stunning building in a landmark location. It is not universally popular with the local people and whether or not it actualy brings many to the town is open to question St Ives has allways been busy. As to who should get some money lets hope many organisations apply and some good can be done.[/p][/quote]In your opinion... I do agree though, a public vote would not only be very interesting, but probably more in the towns best interests.[/p][/quote]I would agree, it would be very interesting. However, would it be in the town’s interest? I can see that a small majority of Helston would actually vote, just like the amount of people that returned the town’s questionnaire. If that is the case, then the vote will be slightly biased? At the end of the day, I suppose the town Cllr’s were appointed by the people, and as such were trusted with making the decisions based on the needs of their constituency. So surely it would amount to the same thing?? Who really knows? But it would be interesting to see which way a public vote went if they are given the chance. Has Helston ever held a public vote for such things before? Matt Tonkins
  • Score: -7

5:01pm Sun 1 Dec 13

Matt Tonkins says...

PR Helston wrote:
Gillian Zella Martin 09 wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Gill I am well aware any organisation can apply I simply stating that some are more worthy to apply for this community money that others.
I am sure the majority of people have no interest in an arts centre and those that do should simply fund it themselves. The money should go to benefit the most.
Thank you for your reply, but who decides which benefits the most ? Maybe they should have a public vote as opposed to purely a town council vote ?
Your idea of a public vote is good Gill, like they did for the logo, that way people from Helston and the surrounding villages and in fact visitors can vote, seeing as it is not only Helston town residents that use the facilities in Helston.
Did they do a public vote for the logo?
[quote][p][bold]PR Helston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gillian Zella Martin 09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Gill I am well aware any organisation can apply I simply stating that some are more worthy to apply for this community money that others. I am sure the majority of people have no interest in an arts centre and those that do should simply fund it themselves. The money should go to benefit the most.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your reply, but who decides which benefits the most ? Maybe they should have a public vote as opposed to purely a town council vote ?[/p][/quote]Your idea of a public vote is good Gill, like they did for the logo, that way people from Helston and the surrounding villages and in fact visitors can vote, seeing as it is not only Helston town residents that use the facilities in Helston.[/p][/quote]Did they do a public vote for the logo? Matt Tonkins
  • Score: -11

5:59pm Sun 1 Dec 13

Matt Tonkins says...

PR Helston wrote:
Matt Tonkins wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Hardly a serious comparison the tate is a stunning building in a landmark location. It is not universally popular with the local people and whether or not it actualy brings many to the town is open to question St Ives has allways been busy.
As to who should get some money lets hope many organisations apply and some good can be done.
In your opinion...

I do agree though, a public vote would not only be very interesting, but probably more in the towns best interests.
I would agree, it would be very interesting. However, would it be in the town’s interest? I can see that a small majority of Helston would actually vote, just like the amount of people that returned the town’s questionnaire. If that is the case, then the vote will be slightly biased? At the end of the day, I suppose the town Cllr’s were appointed by the people, and as such were trusted with making the decisions based on the needs of their constituency. So surely it would amount to the same thing??
Who really knows? But it would be interesting to see which way a public vote went if they are given the chance.
Has Helston ever held a public vote for such things before?
If you think anyone much on this website apart from Gill seeing as she regularly makes it plain, would trust the Cllrs with decision making based on the needs of their constituency then you I think are misguided, ronedgcumbe makes it plain by saying the whole council should stand down and most others thumb down all Gills comments if she says anything good about the Cllrs and you yourself made fun of them by agreeing with my brothers rude comments, so for you to now suggest that people should trust the Cllrs decisions is plain laughable. Do you even live in Helston?
That comment was quite funny even if it was rude. But also note that my last comment was open ended and not going eitherway. And yes, I live in helston and no I dont work in a flower shop. The council are elected, so by saying they are not any good suggests the voters dont know whats good for them, or they had the wool pulled over their eyes. I believe some good will come from them in time.
[quote][p][bold]PR Helston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Matt Tonkins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Hardly a serious comparison the tate is a stunning building in a landmark location. It is not universally popular with the local people and whether or not it actualy brings many to the town is open to question St Ives has allways been busy. As to who should get some money lets hope many organisations apply and some good can be done.[/p][/quote]In your opinion... I do agree though, a public vote would not only be very interesting, but probably more in the towns best interests.[/p][/quote]I would agree, it would be very interesting. However, would it be in the town’s interest? I can see that a small majority of Helston would actually vote, just like the amount of people that returned the town’s questionnaire. If that is the case, then the vote will be slightly biased? At the end of the day, I suppose the town Cllr’s were appointed by the people, and as such were trusted with making the decisions based on the needs of their constituency. So surely it would amount to the same thing?? Who really knows? But it would be interesting to see which way a public vote went if they are given the chance. Has Helston ever held a public vote for such things before?[/p][/quote]If you think anyone much on this website apart from Gill seeing as she regularly makes it plain, would trust the Cllrs with decision making based on the needs of their constituency then you I think are misguided, ronedgcumbe makes it plain by saying the whole council should stand down and most others thumb down all Gills comments if she says anything good about the Cllrs and you yourself made fun of them by agreeing with my brothers rude comments, so for you to now suggest that people should trust the Cllrs decisions is plain laughable. Do you even live in Helston?[/p][/quote]That comment was quite funny even if it was rude. But also note that my last comment was open ended and not going eitherway. And yes, I live in helston and no I dont work in a flower shop. The council are elected, so by saying they are not any good suggests the voters dont know whats good for them, or they had the wool pulled over their eyes. I believe some good will come from them in time. Matt Tonkins
  • Score: -15

6:39pm Sun 1 Dec 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

There are 12 Helston Town Councillors.
There are 12 Helston Town Councillors. Gillian Zella Martin 09
  • Score: 11

7:32pm Sun 1 Dec 13

meerkats says...

PR Helston wrote:
Shut up Gill you are wrong there are ten town Cllrs.
There are 12 on their website
[quote][p][bold]PR Helston[/bold] wrote: Shut up Gill you are wrong there are ten town Cllrs.[/p][/quote]There are 12 on their website meerkats
  • Score: -13

11:34pm Sun 1 Dec 13

Helston Observer says...

Meerkats, you are wrong, plain and simple, Gill is right.. There are 12 town councillors, if you don't believe me, check the town council website.
Meerkats, you are wrong, plain and simple, Gill is right.. There are 12 town councillors, if you don't believe me, check the town council website. Helston Observer
  • Score: 10

11:38pm Sun 1 Dec 13

Helston Observer says...

I humbly apologise, Meerkats, I got it wrong, you were correcting PR Helston, it was he / she who was wrong. Please accept my apology.
I humbly apologise, Meerkats, I got it wrong, you were correcting PR Helston, it was he / she who was wrong. Please accept my apology. Helston Observer
  • Score: 10

6:34am Mon 2 Dec 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

Helston Observer wrote:
Meerkats, you are wrong, plain and simple, Gill is right.. There are 12 town councillors, if you don't believe me, check the town council website.
Thank you for clarifying that there are twelve town Councillors, don't worry about saying meerkats instead of PR, a lot of us have made that mistake and quoted the wrong person in the past, I am sure meerkats will not mind.
[quote][p][bold]Helston Observer[/bold] wrote: Meerkats, you are wrong, plain and simple, Gill is right.. There are 12 town councillors, if you don't believe me, check the town council website.[/p][/quote]Thank you for clarifying that there are twelve town Councillors, don't worry about saying meerkats instead of PR, a lot of us have made that mistake and quoted the wrong person in the past, I am sure meerkats will not mind. Gillian Zella Martin 09
  • Score: 9

7:39am Mon 2 Dec 13

meerkats says...

Helston Observer wrote:
I humbly apologise, Meerkats, I got it wrong, you were correcting PR Helston, it was he / she who was wrong. Please accept my apology.
ok no probs
[quote][p][bold]Helston Observer[/bold] wrote: I humbly apologise, Meerkats, I got it wrong, you were correcting PR Helston, it was he / she who was wrong. Please accept my apology.[/p][/quote]ok no probs meerkats
  • Score: 1

12:00pm Mon 2 Dec 13

meerkats says...

PR Helston wrote:
I think Gill should apologise for being wrong about saying that the money should go to the museum and Epworth hall and penrose rd. I think the money should go to an existing community centre or the old cattle market.
Gill has no need to apologise , thats her opinion of where the money should go ,so she is not wrong.
[quote][p][bold]PR Helston[/bold] wrote: I think Gill should apologise for being wrong about saying that the money should go to the museum and Epworth hall and penrose rd. I think the money should go to an existing community centre or the old cattle market.[/p][/quote]Gill has no need to apologise , thats her opinion of where the money should go ,so she is not wrong. meerkats
  • Score: 7

1:31pm Mon 2 Dec 13

Gillian Zella Martin 09 says...

meerkats wrote:
PR Helston wrote:
I think Gill should apologise for being wrong about saying that the money should go to the museum and Epworth hall and penrose rd. I think the money should go to an existing community centre or the old cattle market.
Gill has no need to apologise , thats her opinion of where the money should go ,so she is not wrong.
Thank you meerkats, I will always apologize if I am in the wrong, however, as you say it is only my personal opinion.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PR Helston[/bold] wrote: I think Gill should apologise for being wrong about saying that the money should go to the museum and Epworth hall and penrose rd. I think the money should go to an existing community centre or the old cattle market.[/p][/quote]Gill has no need to apologise , thats her opinion of where the money should go ,so she is not wrong.[/p][/quote]Thank you meerkats, I will always apologize if I am in the wrong, however, as you say it is only my personal opinion. Gillian Zella Martin 09
  • Score: 5

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