Helston council agrees to 'hire' a van for five years

Falmouth Packet: Helston council agrees to 'hire' a van for five years Helston council agrees to 'hire' a van for five years

Helston Town Council has agreed to hire a van for the next five years, following a lengthy debate on the pros and cons.

Mayor Jonathan Radford-Gaby said the council had taken on “an enormous additional amount of responsibility” over the last year to 18 months and needed a van so that officers could perform their duties.

One of the few dissenting voices was councillor Gillian Geer, who said she largely shared the view of people who visited her shop, adding: “I personally feel that in the present climate of money being tight for everybody, for us to be seen as a council going out, whether buying or leasing a van, it is the wrong time.”

She would prefer for the council to hire a van of the necessary size when needed, “rather than have a van sitting for most of the month for the odd occasion it is required.”

Councillor Martine Knight agreed, saying a hire budget already existed and was “not being utilised properly.”

However, Mr Radford-Gaby argued that if town warden Craig Bowcutt had a van to hand all the time it would enable him to be more efficient in his tasks.

These include litter picking, some notice board maintenance and weed killing. The council also has to inspect all the equipment and state of the town's play areas.

Members heard from town clerk Chris Dawson that each playground inspection took between 30 and 45 minutes, with walking between the sites on top of that.

Councillor Ronnie Williams described a van as “a must,” while councillor Mike Thomas claimed most people assumed the council already had one and were “incredulous” it didn't.

“People will be able to see what, as a town council, we are doing for them,” he added.

It was confirmed that other staff members and councillors would also have use of the van for council business.

Councillor John Martin saw the leasing of the vehicle as “the first phase,” saying: “We can test the usage of the van, prior to any purchase. I believe purchase will be necessary but maybe we start off hiring.”

A suggestion from Mr Williams that the council went straight into buying one found no support, with members agreeing in a majority vote to contract hire a van from Cormac for a five-year period.

Councillors Martine Knight and Gillian Geer recorded their names against the proposal, with the remainder in favour.

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6:15am Thu 30 Jan 14

Gillian R.Z. Martin says...

This is good news, common sense prevails by the majority, hopefully they may eventually go on to purchase a van and add the logo with which to advertise their presence within the town. The geographical area that Councillors and associated staff cover, certainly warrants the basic facility of a van, particularly if they do not wish to appear as an outdated, out of touch council. Having a van will be cost effective as it will be conducive to efficiency and performance rate.
This is good news, common sense prevails by the majority, hopefully they may eventually go on to purchase a van and add the logo with which to advertise their presence within the town. The geographical area that Councillors and associated staff cover, certainly warrants the basic facility of a van, particularly if they do not wish to appear as an outdated, out of touch council. Having a van will be cost effective as it will be conducive to efficiency and performance rate. Gillian R.Z. Martin
  • Score: 10

7:13am Thu 30 Jan 14

miss perfect says...

A log should be kept every day so as to show the council when the van is used as this will proove how mucj its needed
A log should be kept every day so as to show the council when the van is used as this will proove how mucj its needed miss perfect
  • Score: -2

7:49am Thu 30 Jan 14

DCI Jen says...

Brilliant news, the staff will no longer be obliged to use their own vehicles all the time anymore, which should never have been the case, I don't think wear and tear on their own vehicles is acceptable, and if they decided not to bring their vehicles to work they wouldn't be able to use them. Why should staff carry weed killer etc in their own vehicles. Glad this sensible decision was made by most of the Cllrs.
Brilliant news, the staff will no longer be obliged to use their own vehicles all the time anymore, which should never have been the case, I don't think wear and tear on their own vehicles is acceptable, and if they decided not to bring their vehicles to work they wouldn't be able to use them. Why should staff carry weed killer etc in their own vehicles. Glad this sensible decision was made by most of the Cllrs. DCI Jen
  • Score: 10

8:11am Thu 30 Jan 14

miss perfect says...

I hope the man and his van wont have to pay to park in the car parks or be fined £40 when he parks it for 35 minutes somewhere instaed of 30 minutes

the traffic wardens will be keen to have another vehicle to collect money from and to add it to the big fortune they make out of it
I hope the man and his van wont have to pay to park in the car parks or be fined £40 when he parks it for 35 minutes somewhere instaed of 30 minutes the traffic wardens will be keen to have another vehicle to collect money from and to add it to the big fortune they make out of it miss perfect
  • Score: 6

8:13am Thu 30 Jan 14

miss perfect says...

I cant believe in a few minutes there have been four thumbs down to my suggestion that a proper log should be kept

it show how wasteful a lot of people don't care about taxpayers money
I cant believe in a few minutes there have been four thumbs down to my suggestion that a proper log should be kept it show how wasteful a lot of people don't care about taxpayers money miss perfect
  • Score: -4

4:05pm Fri 31 Jan 14

KernBear says...

miss perfect wrote:
I cant believe in a few minutes there have been four thumbs down to my suggestion that a proper log should be kept

it show how wasteful a lot of people don't care about taxpayers money
I would not worry about the ratings Miss Perfect. There are ways for a single person to vote more than once , well according to what others have said anyway. Its all bull so ignore them.
[quote][p][bold]miss perfect[/bold] wrote: I cant believe in a few minutes there have been four thumbs down to my suggestion that a proper log should be kept it show how wasteful a lot of people don't care about taxpayers money[/p][/quote]I would not worry about the ratings Miss Perfect. There are ways for a single person to vote more than once , well according to what others have said anyway. Its all bull so ignore them. KernBear
  • Score: -3

4:11pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

"Councillors Martine Knight and Gillian Geer recorded their names against the proposal"

Funny carry on to me, council business isn't it I think, why would anyone want to record their names for future reference for people to see they were the only two that wanted to hold the council back in moving with the times, did they think a horse and cart might be better.


Was that Cllr Knights car in Sainsbury's car-park I saw the other week, with 'Grave Concerns' on it and a notice saying something about support your local businesses? Well I suppose Sainsbury's is sort of local, I thought though, all this support your local shops thing meant the town centre.
I don't really understand all this council stuff.
Of course the council need a van, that's what the roads are for aren't they, might as well make use of them, better than wasting money on Cornish toilet paper or was it stationary.
"Councillors Martine Knight and Gillian Geer recorded their names against the proposal" Funny carry on to me, council business isn't it I think, why would anyone want to record their names for future reference for people to see they were the only two that wanted to hold the council back in moving with the times, did they think a horse and cart might be better. Was that Cllr Knights car in Sainsbury's car-park I saw the other week, with 'Grave Concerns' on it and a notice saying something about support your local businesses? Well I suppose Sainsbury's is sort of local, I thought though, all this support your local shops thing meant the town centre. I don't really understand all this council stuff. Of course the council need a van, that's what the roads are for aren't they, might as well make use of them, better than wasting money on Cornish toilet paper or was it stationary. Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 18

4:58pm Fri 31 Jan 14

miss perfect says...

oh,do share the secret of voting more than once
sounds more fun than not voting for a van and putting youre real name to it lolo
oh,do share the secret of voting more than once sounds more fun than not voting for a van and putting youre real name to it lolo miss perfect
  • Score: -13

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