Supermarkets blamed as only Helston fruit and veg shop closes

Supermarkets blamed as only Helston fruit and veg shop closes

Supermarkets blamed as only Helston fruit and veg shop closes

First published in News

Unbeatable competition from supermarkets has been given as the main reason why Helston's only in-town fruit and vegetable shop is to close this Friday, after three years in business.

Sisters Paula Nicholls and Debbie James said the decision had “not come lightly” but it was no longer financially viable to keep Fruit & Veg 4 U going.

Now customers of shop in Meneage Street will have to head to one of the out-of-town supermarkets, or to the independent businesses operating from their gardens, which Paula said had also added to the problem.

She explained: “We've been beaten by the supermarkets and also people doing veg boxes from their homes. A Lidl leaflet says you can get a pepper for 32p; we couldn't even buy a pepper in for 32p. And not enough customers are coming in.

“I think it will be a real loss to the town.”

Paula said the pair had been on a “rollercoaster of emotion” since making the decision, adding: “We have had real tears. What we're going to be like when we lock the doors I don't know.

“We're very sad and are going to miss everybody. We've enjoyed every minute of it.

“We want to thank all our loyal customers. We are sorry to let the older generation down -we have become very fond of them and we do deliveries for them. That's the upsetting part. We have got a bit close to them.”

The sisters have already found new jobs, still working together, housekeeping at Praa Sands.

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7:12am Wed 23 Apr 14

Gillian R.Z. Martin says...

This must have been a disappointment for the sisters, however, as this follows Stokes fruit and veg pulling out of Helston it does not really come as a surprise. Whilst I had bought veg from the sisters shop on the odd occasion, I admit I usually buy all mine from the Guildhall market along with cakes etc.
As Helston is promoted as a market town I suppose the most successful shops would be those that avoid selling market products.
This must have been a disappointment for the sisters, however, as this follows Stokes fruit and veg pulling out of Helston it does not really come as a surprise. Whilst I had bought veg from the sisters shop on the odd occasion, I admit I usually buy all mine from the Guildhall market along with cakes etc. As Helston is promoted as a market town I suppose the most successful shops would be those that avoid selling market products. Gillian R.Z. Martin
  • Score: -12

8:37am Wed 23 Apr 14

telstar1962 says...

This is so sad

I have also used this shop, and found the owners extremely friendly.

Let's hope it's not taken over by another Estate Agents.
This is so sad I have also used this shop, and found the owners extremely friendly. Let's hope it's not taken over by another Estate Agents. telstar1962
  • Score: -17

8:46am Wed 23 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Such a shame this has happened but full marks for the brave attempt.
. As the story says it is a price issue. Personaly I can no longer afford to shop in the major supermarkets and make any major purchases after only after research online.
Lets just hope it will not become yet another place for a hair cut.
Such a shame this has happened but full marks for the brave attempt. . As the story says it is a price issue. Personaly I can no longer afford to shop in the major supermarkets and make any major purchases after only after research online. Lets just hope it will not become yet another place for a hair cut. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -10

8:50am Wed 23 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Such a shame this has happened but full marks for the brave attempt.
. As the story says it is a price issue. Personaly I can no longer afford to shop in the major supermarkets and make any major purchases after only after research online.
Lets just hope it will not become yet another place for a hair cut.
Sorry need to go to specsavers.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Such a shame this has happened but full marks for the brave attempt. . As the story says it is a price issue. Personaly I can no longer afford to shop in the major supermarkets and make any major purchases after only after research online. Lets just hope it will not become yet another place for a hair cut.[/p][/quote]Sorry need to go to specsavers. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -10

8:55am Wed 23 Apr 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

They sell fruit and veg in Spar and the co op and the market stalls so I won't be buying mine in out of town supermarkets.
Of course its a shame when any shop closes in Helston but perhaps that's something that should have been considered when promoting the markets. You can't blame people for shopping where they choose when there is a choice within the town.
They sell fruit and veg in Spar and the co op and the market stalls so I won't be buying mine in out of town supermarkets. Of course its a shame when any shop closes in Helston but perhaps that's something that should have been considered when promoting the markets. You can't blame people for shopping where they choose when there is a choice within the town. Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 9

9:51am Wed 23 Apr 14

krazyitchkatie says...

They are lovely ladies who run it, but I was never that impressed by the quality of what they sold unfortunately, and it was a pain in the a*se getting your veg there when you've had to go tesco for other things anyway.
Carrying a sack of potatoes from their end of town to mine was not fun...
They are lovely ladies who run it, but I was never that impressed by the quality of what they sold unfortunately, and it was a pain in the a*se getting your veg there when you've had to go tesco for other things anyway. Carrying a sack of potatoes from their end of town to mine was not fun... krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -15

8:29am Thu 24 Apr 14

telstar1962 says...

Put your money where your mouth is then Rick, and take on one of the empty shops, and show us how it's done !
Put your money where your mouth is then Rick, and take on one of the empty shops, and show us how it's done ! telstar1962
  • Score: 2

9:31am Thu 24 Apr 14

telstar1962 says...

So as not to upset any one individual, my opinion is that anyone criticizing shop-keepers for what they do, or saying 'Helston' get a grip, should try opening a running a business in Helston.

Could be you get some free tuition from the more knowledgeable or successful entrepreneurs lol
So as not to upset any one individual, my opinion is that anyone criticizing shop-keepers for what they do, or saying 'Helston' get a grip, should try opening a running a business in Helston. Could be you get some free tuition from the more knowledgeable or successful entrepreneurs lol telstar1962
  • Score: -7

9:38am Thu 24 Apr 14

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

That picture reminds me of the "this is a local shop" sketch from League of Gentlemen. Just saying...
That picture reminds me of the "this is a local shop" sketch from League of Gentlemen. Just saying... Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
  • Score: 2

9:54am Thu 24 Apr 14

ElevenEleven says...

Competition is part of business, but the problem for town centre businesses in Cornwall is that they do not have a level playing field.

Extortionate parking charges and aggressive usage of traffic wardens are clearly having a negative effect on footfall in town centres vs. plentiful and free parking in out of town shopping areas.

Less footfall will particularly be a problem for shops selling fresh produce such as this because it will inevitably lead to more wastage and less profit.

The new council have made some noises about lowering parking charges but I have yet to see any real evidence of this coming to fruition yet. It's a very big issue and if there are no major changes there will be some nasty shocks to come, even for towns like Falmouth which like to "talk the talk"
Competition is part of business, but the problem for town centre businesses in Cornwall is that they do not have a level playing field. Extortionate parking charges and aggressive usage of traffic wardens are clearly having a negative effect on footfall in town centres vs. plentiful and free parking in out of town shopping areas. Less footfall will particularly be a problem for shops selling fresh produce such as this because it will inevitably lead to more wastage and less profit. The new council have made some noises about lowering parking charges but I have yet to see any real evidence of this coming to fruition yet. It's a very big issue and if there are no major changes there will be some nasty shocks to come, even for towns like Falmouth which like to "talk the talk" ElevenEleven
  • Score: 1

10:41am Thu 24 Apr 14

telstar1962 says...

That's right Rick. It was you who criticised shopkeepers for what they 'do/don't do'

Would you explain to us all how 'Come on Helston get a grip' works ?
That's right Rick. It was you who criticised shopkeepers for what they 'do/don't do' Would you explain to us all how 'Come on Helston get a grip' works ? telstar1962
  • Score: -1

11:23am Thu 24 Apr 14

Gillian R.Z. Martin says...

telstar1962 wrote:
So as not to upset any one individual, my opinion is that anyone criticizing shop-keepers for what they do, or saying 'Helston' get a grip, should try opening a running a business in Helston.

Could be you get some free tuition from the more knowledgeable or successful entrepreneurs lol
Just to clarify, I am not and have never criticized any shopkeeper, I stated in my first post that it did not come as a surprise simply because of the current economic climate and previous closures. I support as many shops as I can in Helston town centre and other various establishments in the town, including those of a cultural nature. I additionally support the markets. I think it should be remembered that sometimes, what starts off as a small business venture on a market stall can progress to one opening a shop. I know times are hard for all, and to run/own any shop/cafe/establishm
ent etc is hard work, I have always maintained that it is too easy to criticize the job of someone, if one is not the person doing it. Of course it is a great shame to lose any shop within the town, not only for the customers but for the shopkeepers themselves.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: So as not to upset any one individual, my opinion is that anyone criticizing shop-keepers for what they do, or saying 'Helston' get a grip, should try opening a running a business in Helston. Could be you get some free tuition from the more knowledgeable or successful entrepreneurs lol[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, I am not and have never criticized any shopkeeper, I stated in my first post that it did not come as a surprise simply because of the current economic climate and previous closures. I support as many shops as I can in Helston town centre and other various establishments in the town, including those of a cultural nature. I additionally support the markets. I think it should be remembered that sometimes, what starts off as a small business venture on a market stall can progress to one opening a shop. I know times are hard for all, and to run/own any shop/cafe/establishm ent etc is hard work, I have always maintained that it is too easy to criticize the job of someone, if one is not the person doing it. Of course it is a great shame to lose any shop within the town, not only for the customers but for the shopkeepers themselves. Gillian R.Z. Martin
  • Score: 10

12:59pm Thu 24 Apr 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston Rick wrote:
telstar1962; you ask me how does get a grip work. Ive already told you, if the shops want business then they should open and close when they state they do. Get a grip on what the customer expects then they might do more trade, and if Cllr Boase never opens his shop he'll never do any trade. The BIP gave him a grant to do that shop up, if hes not going to open it i think he should pay the grant back.
Just to clarify, any shop grants were purely for the aesthetic of the front of the building, so theoretically, as long as he met his obligations to renovate the facade as per the conditions of his grant, he would not be obliged to pay the grant back for not opening a shop.
[quote][p][bold]Helston Rick[/bold] wrote: telstar1962; you ask me how does get a grip work. Ive already told you, if the shops want business then they should open and close when they state they do. Get a grip on what the customer expects then they might do more trade, and if Cllr Boase never opens his shop he'll never do any trade. The BIP gave him a grant to do that shop up, if hes not going to open it i think he should pay the grant back.[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, any shop grants were purely for the aesthetic of the front of the building, so theoretically, as long as he met his obligations to renovate the facade as per the conditions of his grant, he would not be obliged to pay the grant back for not opening a shop. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -30

1:53pm Thu 24 Apr 14

telstar1962 says...

Are any of you who are commenting on this closure story, willing to advise what your past/present experience is of business, so that future businesses planning to open in the Town choose the correct outlet.

I wouldn't think the Town needs any more Estate Agents ( I think there are seven )

Barbers or hairdressers or beauty salons ?
Pubs ? Charity Shops ?

So, if you were going to set up a small shop, what would it be ?

Your answers could prove invaluable.
Are any of you who are commenting on this closure story, willing to advise what your past/present experience is of business, so that future businesses planning to open in the Town choose the correct outlet. I wouldn't think the Town needs any more Estate Agents ( I think there are seven ) Barbers or hairdressers or beauty salons ? Pubs ? Charity Shops ? So, if you were going to set up a small shop, what would it be ? Your answers could prove invaluable. telstar1962
  • Score: 7

2:07pm Thu 24 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

What the town needs ia chain stores who clearly have no interest in the town centre. Helston best hope is the business park area for retail development.
What the town needs ia chain stores who clearly have no interest in the town centre. Helston best hope is the business park area for retail development. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -17

2:12pm Thu 24 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

I do think a Witherspoons and a couple of pound shops would go a long way with rejuvenating the town centre but the rumours of them investing in the town seem to have disappeared. .
I do think a Witherspoons and a couple of pound shops would go a long way with rejuvenating the town centre but the rumours of them investing in the town seem to have disappeared. . ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -21

2:15pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Gillian R.Z. Martin says...

telstar1962 wrote:
Are any of you who are commenting on this closure story, willing to advise what your past/present experience is of business, so that future businesses planning to open in the Town choose the correct outlet.

I wouldn't think the Town needs any more Estate Agents ( I think there are seven )

Barbers or hairdressers or beauty salons ?
Pubs ? Charity Shops ?

So, if you were going to set up a small shop, what would it be ?

Your answers could prove invaluable.
I would like to see 'The Works' in the former Eddys store, it is big enough, alternatively I personally would open a 'Pound Shop'.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Are any of you who are commenting on this closure story, willing to advise what your past/present experience is of business, so that future businesses planning to open in the Town choose the correct outlet. I wouldn't think the Town needs any more Estate Agents ( I think there are seven ) Barbers or hairdressers or beauty salons ? Pubs ? Charity Shops ? So, if you were going to set up a small shop, what would it be ? Your answers could prove invaluable.[/p][/quote]I would like to see 'The Works' in the former Eddys store, it is big enough, alternatively I personally would open a 'Pound Shop'. Gillian R.Z. Martin
  • Score: 13

2:28pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Gillian R.Z. Martin says...

telstar1962 wrote:
Are any of you who are commenting on this closure story, willing to advise what your past/present experience is of business, so that future businesses planning to open in the Town choose the correct outlet.

I wouldn't think the Town needs any more Estate Agents ( I think there are seven )

Barbers or hairdressers or beauty salons ?
Pubs ? Charity Shops ?

So, if you were going to set up a small shop, what would it be ?

Your answers could prove invaluable.
With the library I would convert to half library and half books for sale, that would definitely get me in there more often than currently. WHS has the monopoly over book sales at present in the town. I realise there are online and electronic options, however, there are still people like myself who like books.
An Iceland would probably be popular as well if the right size premises were to become available.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Are any of you who are commenting on this closure story, willing to advise what your past/present experience is of business, so that future businesses planning to open in the Town choose the correct outlet. I wouldn't think the Town needs any more Estate Agents ( I think there are seven ) Barbers or hairdressers or beauty salons ? Pubs ? Charity Shops ? So, if you were going to set up a small shop, what would it be ? Your answers could prove invaluable.[/p][/quote]With the library I would convert to half library and half books for sale, that would definitely get me in there more often than currently. WHS has the monopoly over book sales at present in the town. I realise there are online and electronic options, however, there are still people like myself who like books. An Iceland would probably be popular as well if the right size premises were to become available. Gillian R.Z. Martin
  • Score: 20

2:40pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Gillian R.Z. Martin says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
What the town needs ia chain stores who clearly have no interest in the town centre. Helston best hope is the business park area for retail development.
There are no premises large enough in the town centre for chain stores.

If the business park was a retail park it would take trade away from the town centre. I doubt it would be large enough anyway for retail units and the size car-park that would be needed to accompany it.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: What the town needs ia chain stores who clearly have no interest in the town centre. Helston best hope is the business park area for retail development.[/p][/quote]There are no premises large enough in the town centre for chain stores. If the business park was a retail park it would take trade away from the town centre. I doubt it would be large enough anyway for retail units and the size car-park that would be needed to accompany it. Gillian R.Z. Martin
  • Score: 11

2:52pm Thu 24 Apr 14

krazyitchkatie says...

All national businesses that have been approached have found it too difficult to find an appropriate premises in town, what with size of floorplan, access, a nd restrictions of being in a protected area.

What I'd love to run/see in town is an arcade of popup shops so small businesses have a chance to try and get started without too much of an initial outlay/daily costs.

Somewhere like Olivers (butchers-now-estate
-agents) would've been great for this, but i understand it's a business in itself for the landlord to organise it.
All national businesses that have been approached have found it too difficult to find an appropriate premises in town, what with size of floorplan, access, a nd restrictions of being in a protected area. What I'd love to run/see in town is an arcade of popup shops so small businesses have a chance to try and get started without too much of an initial outlay/daily costs. Somewhere like Olivers (butchers-now-estate -agents) would've been great for this, but i understand it's a business in itself for the landlord to organise it. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -18

2:58pm Thu 24 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

I dont think the town centre is sustainable long term for retail business. As you said the size of premise along with the parking problems are always going to make it unattractive for investment.
By the bussiness park area I meant the general clodgey lane area.
I dont think the town centre is sustainable long term for retail business. As you said the size of premise along with the parking problems are always going to make it unattractive for investment. By the bussiness park area I meant the general clodgey lane area. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -22

3:01pm Thu 24 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

I dont think the town centre is sustainable long term for retail business. As you said the size of premise along with the parking problems are always going to make it unattractive for investment.
By the bussiness park area I meant the general clodgey lane area.
Hats of to anyone who is considering opening a retail premise in the town.
I dont think the town centre is sustainable long term for retail business. As you said the size of premise along with the parking problems are always going to make it unattractive for investment. By the bussiness park area I meant the general clodgey lane area. Hats of to anyone who is considering opening a retail premise in the town. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -19

3:09pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Gillian R.Z. Martin says...

The fact remains Helston is an ancient market town with markets, it is building on its independents and cultural attractions and can offer alternatives to out of town supermarkets, something which visitors can appreciate as well as local residents, this makes it unique. It just needs a little help from Cornwall Council with car-park charging, and a little more financial help in places in able to provide for the needs of those with disabilities.
The fact remains Helston is an ancient market town with markets, it is building on its independents and cultural attractions and can offer alternatives to out of town supermarkets, something which visitors can appreciate as well as local residents, this makes it unique. It just needs a little help from Cornwall Council with car-park charging, and a little more financial help in places in able to provide for the needs of those with disabilities. Gillian R.Z. Martin
  • Score: 18

3:58pm Thu 24 Apr 14

telstar1962 says...

KrazyK's idea appears to be excellent

Who should she contact to suggest it ?

Small shops expected to pay big rent by greedy landlords, only helps the property owners and nobody else
KrazyK's idea appears to be excellent Who should she contact to suggest it ? Small shops expected to pay big rent by greedy landlords, only helps the property owners and nobody else telstar1962
  • Score: -13

4:24pm Thu 24 Apr 14

telstar1962 says...

I believe it is a fallacy to suggest that a small quality retail park with larger premises, which are not available in Town, would kill off trade altogether, as long as adequate transport links are provided between the two areas, such as park and ride. The vital link would help both the Town Centre and the new bigger businesses who would be attracted there.

There would appear to be plenty of land within a mile or so of Helston Town for this to happen.

Whether a forward-thinking project like this would ever get off the ground is another matter...
I believe it is a fallacy to suggest that a small quality retail park with larger premises, which are not available in Town, would kill off trade altogether, as long as adequate transport links are provided between the two areas, such as park and ride. The vital link would help both the Town Centre and the new bigger businesses who would be attracted there. There would appear to be plenty of land within a mile or so of Helston Town for this to happen. Whether a forward-thinking project like this would ever get off the ground is another matter... telstar1962
  • Score: 14

4:42pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Gillian R.Z. Martin says...

telstar1962 wrote:
I believe it is a fallacy to suggest that a small quality retail park with larger premises, which are not available in Town, would kill off trade altogether, as long as adequate transport links are provided between the two areas, such as park and ride. The vital link would help both the Town Centre and the new bigger businesses who would be attracted there.

There would appear to be plenty of land within a mile or so of Helston Town for this to happen.

Whether a forward-thinking project like this would ever get off the ground is another matter...
I agree. However, Rons original comment stated a suggestion for the business park to be used for retail, that is why I objected against it. He subsequently explained he meant on other land. The question is who owns the other land and is it earmarked in the local plan for housing?
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: I believe it is a fallacy to suggest that a small quality retail park with larger premises, which are not available in Town, would kill off trade altogether, as long as adequate transport links are provided between the two areas, such as park and ride. The vital link would help both the Town Centre and the new bigger businesses who would be attracted there. There would appear to be plenty of land within a mile or so of Helston Town for this to happen. Whether a forward-thinking project like this would ever get off the ground is another matter...[/p][/quote]I agree. However, Rons original comment stated a suggestion for the business park to be used for retail, that is why I objected against it. He subsequently explained he meant on other land. The question is who owns the other land and is it earmarked in the local plan for housing? Gillian R.Z. Martin
  • Score: 15

8:11am Fri 25 Apr 14

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
I do think a Witherspoons and a couple of pound shops would go a long way with rejuvenating the town centre but the rumours of them investing in the town seem to have disappeared. .
In my view, it's a bid sad if a pub specialising in cheap deals that could easily be accused of exacerbating alcohol problems, and the downmarket phenomenon that is pound shops can be classed as "rejuvenating" these days. I think this instead underlines where society's gone wrong.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: I do think a Witherspoons and a couple of pound shops would go a long way with rejuvenating the town centre but the rumours of them investing in the town seem to have disappeared. .[/p][/quote]In my view, it's a bid sad if a pub specialising in cheap deals that could easily be accused of exacerbating alcohol problems, and the downmarket phenomenon that is pound shops can be classed as "rejuvenating" these days. I think this instead underlines where society's gone wrong. Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
  • Score: 12

10:03am Fri 25 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Well I like and they are always busy and popular even in the more upmarket towns such as Penzance.
They would hopefully increase footfall.
Well I like and they are always busy and popular even in the more upmarket towns such as Penzance. They would hopefully increase footfall. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -14

10:12am Fri 25 Apr 14

krazyitchkatie says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Well I like and they are always busy and popular even in the more upmarket towns such as Penzance.
They would hopefully increase footfall.
Lol
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Well I like and they are always busy and popular even in the more upmarket towns such as Penzance. They would hopefully increase footfall.[/p][/quote]Lol krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -12

11:23am Fri 25 Apr 14

meerkats says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Well I like and they are always busy and popular even in the more upmarket towns such as Penzance.
They would hopefully increase footfall.
Why is Penzance more upmarket than Helston? You said on a previous comment that you can no longer afford to shop in supermarkets , if you are visiting the upmarket towns as you put it for Pound shops then surely by the time you buy petrol/diesel you wont have saved anything.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Well I like and they are always busy and popular even in the more upmarket towns such as Penzance. They would hopefully increase footfall.[/p][/quote]Why is Penzance more upmarket than Helston? You said on a previous comment that you can no longer afford to shop in supermarkets , if you are visiting the upmarket towns as you put it for Pound shops then surely by the time you buy petrol/diesel you wont have saved anything. meerkats
  • Score: 5

7:37pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

meerkats wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Well I like and they are always busy and popular even in the more upmarket towns such as Penzance.
They would hopefully increase footfall.
Why is Penzance more upmarket than Helston? You said on a previous comment that you can no longer afford to shop in supermarkets , if you are visiting the upmarket towns as you put it for Pound shops then surely by the time you buy petrol/diesel you wont have saved anything.
It was not meant as a serious comment. Although Penzance does have some very nice paving slabs.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Well I like and they are always busy and popular even in the more upmarket towns such as Penzance. They would hopefully increase footfall.[/p][/quote]Why is Penzance more upmarket than Helston? You said on a previous comment that you can no longer afford to shop in supermarkets , if you are visiting the upmarket towns as you put it for Pound shops then surely by the time you buy petrol/diesel you wont have saved anything.[/p][/quote]It was not meant as a serious comment. Although Penzance does have some very nice paving slabs. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -10

8:14pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Helston Rick wrote:
telstar says who should Katie contact with her wonderful idea, erm how about the BIP that she's a member of, thought that was the whole point of the BIP. Have the BIP raised their grant funding yet that we seemed to hear about what they were doing with their share of the Helston money. What ever happened to their parking survey they did and cost money? then there was mention of doing another one.
The Helston website is useless and the BIP website i think, its all so much money wasting.
Ron, Penzance parking is dearer, and like meerkats says fuel costs, you dont sound very commited to Helston.
Apart from my time in the services I have lived here all my life. Dont think you cam ne more committed than that.
Apart from some well know mistakes I think the BIP are doing some good.
[quote][p][bold]Helston Rick[/bold] wrote: telstar says who should Katie contact with her wonderful idea, erm how about the BIP that she's a member of, thought that was the whole point of the BIP. Have the BIP raised their grant funding yet that we seemed to hear about what they were doing with their share of the Helston money. What ever happened to their parking survey they did and cost money? then there was mention of doing another one. The Helston website is useless and the BIP website i think, its all so much money wasting. Ron, Penzance parking is dearer, and like meerkats says fuel costs, you dont sound very commited to Helston.[/p][/quote]Apart from my time in the services I have lived here all my life. Dont think you cam ne more committed than that. Apart from some well know mistakes I think the BIP are doing some good. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -13

2:19pm Sat 26 Apr 14

meerkats says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston Rick wrote:
telstar says who should Katie contact with her wonderful idea, erm how about the BIP that she's a member of, thought that was the whole point of the BIP. Have the BIP raised their grant funding yet that we seemed to hear about what they were doing with their share of the Helston money. What ever happened to their parking survey they did and cost money? then there was mention of doing another one.
The Helston website is useless and the BIP website i think, its all so much money wasting.
Ron, Penzance parking is dearer, and like meerkats says fuel costs, you dont sound very commited to Helston.
Apart from my time in the services I have lived here all my life. Dont think you cam ne more committed than that.
Apart from some well know mistakes I think the BIP are doing some good.
Takes more than living in a town all your life to have committment.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston Rick[/bold] wrote: telstar says who should Katie contact with her wonderful idea, erm how about the BIP that she's a member of, thought that was the whole point of the BIP. Have the BIP raised their grant funding yet that we seemed to hear about what they were doing with their share of the Helston money. What ever happened to their parking survey they did and cost money? then there was mention of doing another one. The Helston website is useless and the BIP website i think, its all so much money wasting. Ron, Penzance parking is dearer, and like meerkats says fuel costs, you dont sound very commited to Helston.[/p][/quote]Apart from my time in the services I have lived here all my life. Dont think you cam ne more committed than that. Apart from some well know mistakes I think the BIP are doing some good.[/p][/quote]Takes more than living in a town all your life to have committment. meerkats
  • Score: 13

4:57pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.
True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -14

5:04pm Sat 26 Apr 14

meerkats says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.
Dont know of anyone who has claimed to have all the answers , but there are some that are doing things to improve the town .
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.[/p][/quote]Dont know of anyone who has claimed to have all the answers , but there are some that are doing things to improve the town . meerkats
  • Score: 11

5:09pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.
Ron, why don't you have the courage of your claims and name names and give them the right to reply. To make a claim like that you must know who you have in mind. By the way what services where you in ?
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.[/p][/quote]Ron, why don't you have the courage of your claims and name names and give them the right to reply. To make a claim like that you must know who you have in mind. By the way what services where you in ? Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 12

5:22pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

Her majesty's service ?
Her majesty's service ? Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 11

5:26pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.
What do you class as a few years? 3? 7? 15? How long should it take then to know all the answers lol
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.[/p][/quote]What do you class as a few years? 3? 7? 15? How long should it take then to know all the answers lol Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 13

5:37pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -9

5:50pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.[/p][/quote]All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE? Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 12

5:56pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

Cllr Wallis says he's been in the navy, but someone wrote on this website he hasn't. I suppose anyone can say anything and no one really knows.
If you've nothing to hide why not say what service you served in? After all you were the one that mentioned it Ron.
Cllr Wallis says he's been in the navy, but someone wrote on this website he hasn't. I suppose anyone can say anything and no one really knows. If you've nothing to hide why not say what service you served in? After all you were the one that mentioned it Ron. Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 10

6:14pm Sat 26 Apr 14

meerkats says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
We all choose what names we post under , so i dont think courage in posting using your real name comes into it at all, its your choice . Going back to the news item, i think its a shame that they are closing and it will be another empty shop ,but wish them well in their new career.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.[/p][/quote]We all choose what names we post under , so i dont think courage in posting using your real name comes into it at all, its your choice . Going back to the news item, i think its a shame that they are closing and it will be another empty shop ,but wish them well in their new career. meerkats
  • Score: 10

6:36pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

I was not the first to mention courage.
I served in the RAF and meerkats maybe they can allways get a job at tesco whichI remember was your suggestion for the car wash man at sithney common hill.
I was not the first to mention courage. I served in the RAF and meerkats maybe they can allways get a job at tesco whichI remember was your suggestion for the car wash man at sithney common hill. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -12

6:56pm Sat 26 Apr 14

meerkats says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
I was not the first to mention courage.
I served in the RAF and meerkats maybe they can allways get a job at tesco whichI remember was your suggestion for the car wash man at sithney common hill.
They have already got new jobs , if you read the article and the car wash news item has nothing to do with this anyway so why bring it up ?
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: I was not the first to mention courage. I served in the RAF and meerkats maybe they can allways get a job at tesco whichI remember was your suggestion for the car wash man at sithney common hill.[/p][/quote]They have already got new jobs , if you read the article and the car wash news item has nothing to do with this anyway so why bring it up ? meerkats
  • Score: 11

6:59pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Helston fly on the wall wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.
What do you class as a few years? 3? 7? 15? How long should it take then to know all the answers lol
No one has all the answers.
[quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.[/p][/quote]What do you class as a few years? 3? 7? 15? How long should it take then to know all the answers lol[/p][/quote]No one has all the answers. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -10

7:05pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
I was not the first to mention courage.
I served in the RAF and meerkats maybe they can allways get a job at tesco whichI remember was your suggestion for the car wash man at sithney common hill.
Thanks Ron I was just interested. RAF.
I was just interested too, who you think knows all the answers in the town that's only been here a few years, come on spill the beans lol it gets interesting. You're entitled to your opinion if you think they've only been here a few years and know all the answers, I just want to know what you know lol
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: I was not the first to mention courage. I served in the RAF and meerkats maybe they can allways get a job at tesco whichI remember was your suggestion for the car wash man at sithney common hill.[/p][/quote]Thanks Ron I was just interested. RAF. I was just interested too, who you think knows all the answers in the town that's only been here a few years, come on spill the beans lol it gets interesting. You're entitled to your opinion if you think they've only been here a few years and know all the answers, I just want to know what you know lol Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 14

7:20pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.
Hang on a mo Ron, first you said this, now you say no one has all the answers, so if no one has all the answers how can you think someone that hasn't been in the town long thinks they have all the answers? If you know for a fact they claimed to have all the answers them you must know who they are? Or you are just saying they claim to have all the answers, when they never said that?
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.[/p][/quote]Hang on a mo Ron, first you said this, now you say no one has all the answers, so if no one has all the answers how can you think someone that hasn't been in the town long thinks they have all the answers? If you know for a fact they claimed to have all the answers them you must know who they are? Or you are just saying they claim to have all the answers, when they never said that? Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 13

7:22pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

meerkats wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
I was not the first to mention courage.
I served in the RAF and meerkats maybe they can allways get a job at tesco whichI remember was your suggestion for the car wash man at sithney common hill.
They have already got new jobs , if you read the article and the car wash news item has nothing to do with this anyway so why bring it up ?
What's a car wash got to do with all this, I agree with you meerkats.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: I was not the first to mention courage. I served in the RAF and meerkats maybe they can allways get a job at tesco whichI remember was your suggestion for the car wash man at sithney common hill.[/p][/quote]They have already got new jobs , if you read the article and the car wash news item has nothing to do with this anyway so why bring it up ?[/p][/quote]What's a car wash got to do with all this, I agree with you meerkats. Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 13

7:24pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

Ron how do you know how long someone's been in the town for? Did you watch them move in ?
Ron how do you know how long someone's been in the town for? Did you watch them move in ? Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 11

8:20pm Sat 26 Apr 14

meerkats says...

Helston fly on the wall wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.
Hang on a mo Ron, first you said this, now you say no one has all the answers, so if no one has all the answers how can you think someone that hasn't been in the town long thinks they have all the answers? If you know for a fact they claimed to have all the answers them you must know who they are? Or you are just saying they claim to have all the answers, when they never said that?
Theres a lot of answers in your comment lol
[quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: True but at least I am not one of them who have been in the town a few years who claim to have all the answers.[/p][/quote]Hang on a mo Ron, first you said this, now you say no one has all the answers, so if no one has all the answers how can you think someone that hasn't been in the town long thinks they have all the answers? If you know for a fact they claimed to have all the answers them you must know who they are? Or you are just saying they claim to have all the answers, when they never said that?[/p][/quote]Theres a lot of answers in your comment lol meerkats
  • Score: 11

9:43pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Lol.
Lol. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 7

5:17pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston fly on the wall wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?
"A false user name"

You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false.

I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s.

I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted.

I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.
[quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.[/p][/quote]All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?[/p][/quote]"A false user name" You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false. I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s. I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted. I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 8

6:44pm Sun 27 Apr 14

meerkats says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston fly on the wall wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?
"A false user name"

You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false.

I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s.

I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted.

I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.
A very well written comment once again Gill .
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.[/p][/quote]All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?[/p][/quote]"A false user name" You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false. I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s. I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted. I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.[/p][/quote]A very well written comment once again Gill . meerkats
  • Score: 6

7:33pm Sun 27 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

meerkats wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston fly on the wall wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?
"A false user name"

You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false.

I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s.

I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted.

I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.
A very well written comment once again Gill .
I agree well said Gill.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.[/p][/quote]All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?[/p][/quote]"A false user name" You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false. I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s. I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted. I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.[/p][/quote]A very well written comment once again Gill .[/p][/quote]I agree well said Gill. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 7

8:07pm Sun 27 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston fly on the wall wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?
"A false user name"

You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false.

I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s.

I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted.

I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.
I believe with every drop of rain that flows a flower grows.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.[/p][/quote]All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?[/p][/quote]"A false user name" You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false. I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s. I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted. I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.[/p][/quote]I believe with every drop of rain that flows a flower grows. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 10

8:25pm Sun 27 Apr 14

krazyitchkatie says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston fly on the wall wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?
"A false user name"

You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false.

I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s.

I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted.

I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.
I believe with every drop of rain that flows a flower grows.
Are you quoting a Robson and Jeremy song??? LOL


The sign in their window yesterday stated the reason for closure was a lack of support for the shop and a lack of support for Helston town... Make of that what you will.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.[/p][/quote]All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?[/p][/quote]"A false user name" You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false. I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s. I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted. I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.[/p][/quote]I believe with every drop of rain that flows a flower grows.[/p][/quote]Are you quoting a Robson and Jeremy song??? LOL The sign in their window yesterday stated the reason for closure was a lack of support for the shop and a lack of support for Helston town... Make of that what you will. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -13

8:47pm Sun 27 Apr 14

meerkats says...

krazyitchkatie wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston fly on the wall wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?
"A false user name"

You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false.

I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s.

I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted.

I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.
I believe with every drop of rain that flows a flower grows.
Are you quoting a Robson and Jeremy song??? LOL


The sign in their window yesterday stated the reason for closure was a lack of support for the shop and a lack of support for Helston town... Make of that what you will.
Jerome not jeremy lol
[quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.[/p][/quote]All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?[/p][/quote]"A false user name" You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false. I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s. I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted. I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.[/p][/quote]I believe with every drop of rain that flows a flower grows.[/p][/quote]Are you quoting a Robson and Jeremy song??? LOL The sign in their window yesterday stated the reason for closure was a lack of support for the shop and a lack of support for Helston town... Make of that what you will.[/p][/quote]Jerome not jeremy lol meerkats
  • Score: 8

8:50pm Sun 27 Apr 14

meerkats says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston fly on the wall wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?
"A false user name"

You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false.

I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s.

I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted.

I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.
I believe with every drop of rain that flows a flower grows.
Rain that falls a flower grows if you are quoting a song
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.[/p][/quote]All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?[/p][/quote]"A false user name" You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false. I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s. I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted. I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.[/p][/quote]I believe with every drop of rain that flows a flower grows.[/p][/quote]Rain that falls a flower grows if you are quoting a song meerkats
  • Score: 7

9:13pm Sun 27 Apr 14

krazyitchkatie says...

**** iPad spellcheck... Garggh! Lol
**** iPad spellcheck... Garggh! Lol krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -13

9:22pm Sun 27 Apr 14

ronedgcumbe says...

meerkats wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston fly on the wall wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.
All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?
"A false user name"

You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false.

I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s.

I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted.

I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.
I believe with every drop of rain that flows a flower grows.
Are you quoting a Robson and Jeremy song??? LOL


The sign in their window yesterday stated the reason for closure was a lack of support for the shop and a lack of support for Helston town... Make of that what you will.
Jerome not jeremy lol
I believe it was frankie laine and jimmy young who had a hit with this song before before your robson and whoever.
I think I understand what the ladies are saying with the sign and also it was great they had a go and enjoyed it.
We shop in the town almost daily but it is easy for us as we are pretty central.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: You are funny. At least I have the courage to use my own name.[/p][/quote]All very well using your own name but I still don't think its very open and transparent if you don't name people you want to criticise, so its really no different from using a false user name. Notice you won't say which service you served in, or is a bit like that Cornwall Cllr that claimed to have an MBE?[/p][/quote]"A false user name" You cannot have a false user name, a user name is a name one chooses with which to be identified, whether it be a pseudonym or your real name. Choosing a name like 'meerkats' for example, does not make the identifiable name false. I do personally think if anyone criticises a person/persons then they should stand by their views and name who they are criticising, to eliminate misunderstandings, it then allows the opportunity of response from the relative person/s. I believe the sales of vegetables are prolific in lay-bys, garden stalls and market stalls in and around Helston, which probably is detrimental to independent shop sales, however, if this is a customers preferred choice then that should be accepted. I believe commitment to any area depends on that of which one contributes to the area and community, this can be in various ways, it has very little to do with how long someone has resided somewhere.[/p][/quote]I believe with every drop of rain that flows a flower grows.[/p][/quote]Are you quoting a Robson and Jeremy song??? LOL The sign in their window yesterday stated the reason for closure was a lack of support for the shop and a lack of support for Helston town... Make of that what you will.[/p][/quote]Jerome not jeremy lol[/p][/quote]I believe it was frankie laine and jimmy young who had a hit with this song before before your robson and whoever. I think I understand what the ladies are saying with the sign and also it was great they had a go and enjoyed it. We shop in the town almost daily but it is easy for us as we are pretty central. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 15

1:30pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Helston Jo says...

Has anyone actually asked the ladies from the shop where they do their main grocery shopping? did they support other shops in the town?
The shop notice mentioned by krazyitchkatie sounds to me like a case of sour grapes.
Helston town is supported, if it wasn't, other shops wouldn't have remained for the years that they have. Competition on the high street is good for the consumer, if people don't want to use a certain shop that is their choice, why should someone pay more if they can't afford to, or pay for sub standard produce. The out of town supermarkets provide employment and consumer choice and many of those working there spend their money on things in the town. Why when something fails, do people look to blame others.
Has anyone actually asked the ladies from the shop where they do their main grocery shopping? did they support other shops in the town? The shop notice mentioned by krazyitchkatie sounds to me like a case of sour grapes. Helston town is supported, if it wasn't, other shops wouldn't have remained for the years that they have. Competition on the high street is good for the consumer, if people don't want to use a certain shop that is their choice, why should someone pay more if they can't afford to, or pay for sub standard produce. The out of town supermarkets provide employment and consumer choice and many of those working there spend their money on things in the town. Why when something fails, do people look to blame others. Helston Jo
  • Score: 16

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