Mullion Bell Ringers concert this evening

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A CONCERT by the Mullion Bell Ringers in aid of St Melanus Church funds will be taking place at the church this evening, Saturday, June 14 at 7pm.

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5:14pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

That makes a nice change over at Mullion doesnt it, raising money for a nice Parish Church, I think all I ever seem to hear is about money grabbing Methodists wanting more money.
That makes a nice change over at Mullion doesnt it, raising money for a nice Parish Church, I think all I ever seem to hear is about money grabbing Methodists wanting more money. Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 4

3:04pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

I think you may possibly should not have omitted the word 'Church' or 'Churches' in your comment!
I am a Methodist, and I am not "money grabbing".
I think you may possibly should not have omitted the word 'Church' or 'Churches' in your comment! I am a Methodist, and I am not "money grabbing". Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 3

12:38pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Helston John says...

But if you're a Methodist and If Methodist Churches are "money grabbing", then doesn't that make you "money grabbing" as well? Don't mean it personally, but more as Church point of view. And "money grabbing" are not my words. I know Churches need to maintain their buildings but I must admit, like Helston fly on the wall says, they all seem to be asking for money all the time, even St Michaels. Do you attend Mullion Methodist Church regularly? Don't know how many churches we have in Helston.
But if you're a Methodist and If Methodist Churches are "money grabbing", then doesn't that make you "money grabbing" as well? Don't mean it personally, but more as Church point of view. And "money grabbing" are not my words. I know Churches need to maintain their buildings but I must admit, like Helston fly on the wall says, they all seem to be asking for money all the time, even St Michaels. Do you attend Mullion Methodist Church regularly? Don't know how many churches we have in Helston. Helston John
  • Score: 4

1:53pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

I believe in the theology of Methodism, I do not however, necessarily agree with everything related to the financial side of things.

I am a member of Mullion Methodist Church, however, my time is divided between Mullion and Porthleven Chapels.

I know of seven practising churches in Helston. Church of England, Methodist, Free Methodist (light and life) Baptist, Catholic, Kingdom Hall, (Jehovah's Witnesses) Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints (Mormans) and there are probably many more people of other religious groups.

I would be interested if someone would define "money grabbing".
I believe in the theology of Methodism, I do not however, necessarily agree with everything related to the financial side of things. I am a member of Mullion Methodist Church, however, my time is divided between Mullion and Porthleven Chapels. I know of seven practising churches in Helston. Church of England, Methodist, Free Methodist (light and life) Baptist, Catholic, Kingdom Hall, (Jehovah's Witnesses) Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints (Mormans) and there are probably many more people of other religious groups. I would be interested if someone would define "money grabbing". Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

6:46am Wed 18 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return.

Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes.

Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?
Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return. Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes. Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then? Helston John
  • Score: 2

3:57pm Wed 18 Jun 14

telstar1962 says...

DING-DONG

I missed it.

I like a good Ding-Dong, and passing the velvet bag round.

Perhaps next time.
DING-DONG I missed it. I like a good Ding-Dong, and passing the velvet bag round. Perhaps next time. telstar1962
  • Score: 5

4:08pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return.

Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes.

Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?
I am not money grabbing, and generally speaking, Churches raise money to maintain their buildings, I would not class that as money grabbing.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return. Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes. Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?[/p][/quote]I am not money grabbing, and generally speaking, Churches raise money to maintain their buildings, I would not class that as money grabbing. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: -1

4:25pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
I think you may possibly should not have omitted the word 'Church' or 'Churches' in your comment!
I am a Methodist, and I am not "money grabbing".
I should have put Churches yes, not particularly individual Methodists. But doesnt that make you money grabbing as a Methodist if your Church is always asking people for money? does your Church give any money away?
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: I think you may possibly should not have omitted the word 'Church' or 'Churches' in your comment! I am a Methodist, and I am not "money grabbing".[/p][/quote]I should have put Churches yes, not particularly individual Methodists. But doesnt that make you money grabbing as a Methodist if your Church is always asking people for money? does your Church give any money away? Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 5

4:28pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

Are the handbell ringers good?
Are the handbell ringers good? Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston fly on the wall wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
I think you may possibly should not have omitted the word 'Church' or 'Churches' in your comment!
I am a Methodist, and I am not "money grabbing".
I should have put Churches yes, not particularly individual Methodists. But doesnt that make you money grabbing as a Methodist if your Church is always asking people for money? does your Church give any money away?
I am not money grabbing just because I attend a Chapel that raises funds for the maintenance of its building.

I have no idea if the Chapel gives any money away. I have nothing to do with the financial side of it.

Yes, the handbell ringers are very good.
[quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: I think you may possibly should not have omitted the word 'Church' or 'Churches' in your comment! I am a Methodist, and I am not "money grabbing".[/p][/quote]I should have put Churches yes, not particularly individual Methodists. But doesnt that make you money grabbing as a Methodist if your Church is always asking people for money? does your Church give any money away?[/p][/quote]I am not money grabbing just because I attend a Chapel that raises funds for the maintenance of its building. I have no idea if the Chapel gives any money away. I have nothing to do with the financial side of it. Yes, the handbell ringers are very good. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

4:42pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return.

Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes.

Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?
Thank you for your definition of money grabbing. I personally never ask anyone for money so therefore do come into that category.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return. Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes. Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?[/p][/quote]Thank you for your definition of money grabbing. I personally never ask anyone for money so therefore do come into that category. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

4:47pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Previous post should have said, I personally do 'not' come into that category.
Previous post should have said, I personally do 'not' come into that category. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

5:01pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

Helston John wrote:
Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return.

Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes.

Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?
Because they always seem to be asking for money. Do we read any reports
about money they give away?
Do you give any money away Gill?
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return. Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes. Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?[/p][/quote]Because they always seem to be asking for money. Do we read any reports about money they give away? Do you give any money away Gill? Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 6

5:12pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
I believe in the theology of Methodism, I do not however, necessarily agree with everything related to the financial side of things.

I am a member of Mullion Methodist Church, however, my time is divided between Mullion and Porthleven Chapels.

I know of seven practising churches in Helston. Church of England, Methodist, Free Methodist (light and life) Baptist, Catholic, Kingdom Hall, (Jehovah's Witnesses) Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints (Mormans) and there are probably many more people of other religious groups.

I would be interested if someone would define "money grabbing".
What don't you agree with on the financial side of it?
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: I believe in the theology of Methodism, I do not however, necessarily agree with everything related to the financial side of things. I am a member of Mullion Methodist Church, however, my time is divided between Mullion and Porthleven Chapels. I know of seven practising churches in Helston. Church of England, Methodist, Free Methodist (light and life) Baptist, Catholic, Kingdom Hall, (Jehovah's Witnesses) Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints (Mormans) and there are probably many more people of other religious groups. I would be interested if someone would define "money grabbing".[/p][/quote]What don't you agree with on the financial side of it? Helston John
  • Score: 0

5:18pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston fly on the wall wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return.

Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes.

Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?
Because they always seem to be asking for money. Do we read any reports
about money they give away?
Do you give any money away Gill?
As I previously said, I have no idea if the Chapel gives money away, I have nothing to do with the financial side.
Perhaps it is something you should be asking the minister!
[quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return. Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes. Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?[/p][/quote]Because they always seem to be asking for money. Do we read any reports about money they give away? Do you give any money away Gill?[/p][/quote]As I previously said, I have no idea if the Chapel gives money away, I have nothing to do with the financial side. Perhaps it is something you should be asking the minister! Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

5:21pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

telstar1962 wrote:
DING-DONG

I missed it.

I like a good Ding-Dong, and passing the velvet bag round.

Perhaps next time.
Lol, the Methodist Chapel has no bells!
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: DING-DONG I missed it. I like a good Ding-Dong, and passing the velvet bag round. Perhaps next time.[/p][/quote]Lol, the Methodist Chapel has no bells! Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

7:14pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return.

Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes.

Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?
I am not money grabbing, and generally speaking, Churches raise money to maintain their buildings, I would not class that as money grabbing.
Surely that depends on how the money is raised? If the parishioners pay into the collection and raise money then fine, but if they ask other people for money then is that ok?
Is it right to ask the parishioners to pay too much?
How much are people expected to put in the collection?
Do they get asked to put more in that they do?
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return. Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes. Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?[/p][/quote]I am not money grabbing, and generally speaking, Churches raise money to maintain their buildings, I would not class that as money grabbing.[/p][/quote]Surely that depends on how the money is raised? If the parishioners pay into the collection and raise money then fine, but if they ask other people for money then is that ok? Is it right to ask the parishioners to pay too much? How much are people expected to put in the collection? Do they get asked to put more in that they do? Helston John
  • Score: 2

8:40pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

It is up to the individual how much they deposit in the collection.
A Church does not just ask other people for money, it fund raises the same way other groups do that wish to raise funds.
It is up to the individual how much they deposit in the collection. A Church does not just ask other people for money, it fund raises the same way other groups do that wish to raise funds. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: -2

10:15pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Helston John says...

You're very polite and placid in your answers Gill, if i was questioned that much I'd have the right hump and probably be rude lol.
You're very polite and placid in your answers Gill, if i was questioned that much I'd have the right hump and probably be rude lol. Helston John
  • Score: 3

1:32pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Intrigued at all the thumbs down on here, we're only asking questions and getting answers, does someone out there not like finances being talked about? I thought Churches were supposed to be an open and honest institution,,,,,,

Gill doesn't it bother you going to a church that people like Helston fly on the wall claim are money grabbing?

You are right in your first post, if people want to claim the churches are money grabbing then they shouldn't pick out the individual Methodist word and say they are money grabbing, they should use the word church or churches. People have thumbed down your first comment so they obviously think you are money grabbing,,,,,,, I think that's wrong to assume that just because you're Methodist you're money grabbing.
Intrigued at all the thumbs down on here, we're only asking questions and getting answers, does someone out there not like finances being talked about? I thought Churches were supposed to be an open and honest institution,,,,,, Gill doesn't it bother you going to a church that people like Helston fly on the wall claim are money grabbing? You are right in your first post, if people want to claim the churches are money grabbing then they shouldn't pick out the individual Methodist word and say they are money grabbing, they should use the word church or churches. People have thumbed down your first comment so they obviously think you are money grabbing,,,,,,, I think that's wrong to assume that just because you're Methodist you're money grabbing. Helston John
  • Score: 4

1:38pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Helston John says...

I know the Christian Aid collection from the churches gives money away, but I don't think that really counts, because they collect that money from the community not just the parishioners so it's not really the church giving it away is it?
I know the Christian Aid collection from the churches gives money away, but I don't think that really counts, because they collect that money from the community not just the parishioners so it's not really the church giving it away is it? Helston John
  • Score: 5

2:04pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
telstar1962 wrote:
DING-DONG

I missed it.

I like a good Ding-Dong, and passing the velvet bag round.

Perhaps next time.
Lol, the Methodist Chapel has no bells!
Who thumbed this down? Aren't Christians allowed to have a sense of humour?
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: DING-DONG I missed it. I like a good Ding-Dong, and passing the velvet bag round. Perhaps next time.[/p][/quote]Lol, the Methodist Chapel has no bells![/p][/quote]Who thumbed this down? Aren't Christians allowed to have a sense of humour? Helston John
  • Score: 2

2:07pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Are you always polite Gill? Is it because you go to church?
Are you always polite Gill? Is it because you go to church? Helston John
  • Score: 1

2:10pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return.

Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes.

Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?
I am not money grabbing, and generally speaking, Churches raise money to maintain their buildings, I would not class that as money grabbing.
Someone thumbed this down, so presumably they think you are money grabbing, bit of a cheek of them when none of us even know you.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Definition of money grabbing,,,, always asking for money and giving nothing in return. Trying to make as much money as possible out of other people and never giving any money yourself to others or any causes. Why do people think the Methodist Church is money grabbing then?[/p][/quote]I am not money grabbing, and generally speaking, Churches raise money to maintain their buildings, I would not class that as money grabbing.[/p][/quote]Someone thumbed this down, so presumably they think you are money grabbing, bit of a cheek of them when none of us even know you. Helston John
  • Score: 2

2:42pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Intrigued at all the thumbs down on here, we're only asking questions and getting answers, does someone out there not like finances being talked about? I thought Churches were supposed to be an open and honest institution,,,,,,

Gill doesn't it bother you going to a church that people like Helston fly on the wall claim are money grabbing?

You are right in your first post, if people want to claim the churches are money grabbing then they shouldn't pick out the individual Methodist word and say they are money grabbing, they should use the word church or churches. People have thumbed down your first comment so they obviously think you are money grabbing,,,,,,, I think that's wrong to assume that just because you're Methodist you're money grabbing.
No it does not bother me what anyone thinks about the Chapel itself, as everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I am not "money grabbing".
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Intrigued at all the thumbs down on here, we're only asking questions and getting answers, does someone out there not like finances being talked about? I thought Churches were supposed to be an open and honest institution,,,,,, Gill doesn't it bother you going to a church that people like Helston fly on the wall claim are money grabbing? You are right in your first post, if people want to claim the churches are money grabbing then they shouldn't pick out the individual Methodist word and say they are money grabbing, they should use the word church or churches. People have thumbed down your first comment so they obviously think you are money grabbing,,,,,,, I think that's wrong to assume that just because you're Methodist you're money grabbing.[/p][/quote]No it does not bother me what anyone thinks about the Chapel itself, as everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I am not "money grabbing". Gill Z Martin
  • Score: -1

2:46pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Are you always polite Gill? Is it because you go to church?
Attending Chapel has no bearing on my behaviour whatsoever.

Most of the time I am polite, sometimes I am inadvertently impolite.

The bell ringers are extremely good, and that is a perfect example of how funds can be raised for a Church.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Are you always polite Gill? Is it because you go to church?[/p][/quote]Attending Chapel has no bearing on my behaviour whatsoever. Most of the time I am polite, sometimes I am inadvertently impolite. The bell ringers are extremely good, and that is a perfect example of how funds can be raised for a Church. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: -2

5:38pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Someone has thumbed your comments down again Gill, because you said you wernt money grabbing, why would someone think you are money grabbing?

Do you do the collection in the church?

Do you ask for money for the church?

I wish these people would leave a comment instead of just thumbing down, it's ridiculous.
Someone has thumbed your comments down again Gill, because you said you wernt money grabbing, why would someone think you are money grabbing? Do you do the collection in the church? Do you ask for money for the church? I wish these people would leave a comment instead of just thumbing down, it's ridiculous. Helston John
  • Score: 3

5:57pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Someone has thumbed your comments down again Gill, because you said you wernt money grabbing, why would someone think you are money grabbing?

Do you do the collection in the church?

Do you ask for money for the church?

I wish these people would leave a comment instead of just thumbing down, it's ridiculous.
No I do not do the collection in the Chapel, I have nothing to do with the finances whatsoever, neither do I ask anyone for any money for myself or any Church. I am not involved with any fundraising for any Church.

I have no idea if or why anyone would think I am "money grabbing" it is just not true.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Someone has thumbed your comments down again Gill, because you said you wernt money grabbing, why would someone think you are money grabbing? Do you do the collection in the church? Do you ask for money for the church? I wish these people would leave a comment instead of just thumbing down, it's ridiculous.[/p][/quote]No I do not do the collection in the Chapel, I have nothing to do with the finances whatsoever, neither do I ask anyone for any money for myself or any Church. I am not involved with any fundraising for any Church. I have no idea if or why anyone would think I am "money grabbing" it is just not true. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: -1

7:43am Fri 20 Jun 14

DCI Jen says...

Gill is not money orientated at all and certainly is no money grabber, about ten years ago she gave £1,000 towards having these handbells renovated/repaired, she just didn't go round blabbing about it to everyone like people seem to these days, because unlike some people she's neither a publicity seeker or attention grabber. She does things for the right reasons. She has no vested interested in the handbells herself as she doesn't play them. They're not even kept in the Methodist Church but the Parish Church.
The recent handbell concert was very good.
The headline to this article should really have said Mullion handbell ringers.
Gill is not money orientated at all and certainly is no money grabber, about ten years ago she gave £1,000 towards having these handbells renovated/repaired, she just didn't go round blabbing about it to everyone like people seem to these days, because unlike some people she's neither a publicity seeker or attention grabber. She does things for the right reasons. She has no vested interested in the handbells herself as she doesn't play them. They're not even kept in the Methodist Church but the Parish Church. The recent handbell concert was very good. The headline to this article should really have said Mullion handbell ringers. DCI Jen
  • Score: 2

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