Councillor Alex Folkes embroiled in council tax questions... again?

Councillor Alex Folkes ordered to pay council tax... again?

Councillor Alex Folkes ordered to pay council tax... again?

First published in News

Cornwall councillor Alex Folkes has found himself embroilled in yet another problem with unpaid council tax, after the authority found he should have been paying council tax for a former rental property.

It looks likely that Mr Folkes, who is now responsible for millions of pounds of taxpayers cash as the cabinet member for finance, will be told to pay a council tax bill running into hundreds of pounds.

The liability follows a row that has played out on social media with a former landlady over whether he gave formal notice that he was leaving when he moved out in January.

The landlady, Jacqui Baseley, claims that he is liable for unpaid rent, unpaid bills and council tax at the property he rented. 

Following a Cornwall Council investigation looking into whether Mrs Baseley or Mr Folkes was laible for the unpaid council tax, the authority has decided Mr Folkes should be the one to pay.

A letter to Mrs Baseley said that following her request for confirmation that she is not liable for the council tax at the property at The Old Mill, Launceston, the authority can confirm that "on the basis of the information the council has seen...  it is appropriate at the current time to treat Mr Folkes as liable for the council tax".

Falmouth Packet:

Mr Folkes has a right to appeal against the decision and if a tribunal finds in his favour, Mrs Beasley will be pursued for the council tax.

Mr Folkes said: "I understand from the council that they have received further information and they are still investigating the legal issues in this case. As such, they have not issued a bill.

"With no bill having been issued, neither myself nor my former landlord are currently liable and nobody is 'behind' with any payments.

"I firmly believe that a full and proper investigation will conclude that I am not liable for council tax. However, if I am found liable and receive a council tax bill then I will of course pay it immediately, whilst reserving the right to consider an appeal to the valuations tribunal which is the final arbiter on such matters."

Mr Folkes (Lib Dem, Launceston Central) was previously taken to court three times for unpaid council tax, the final time in July 2011 for arrears of £811.07.

Alex Folkes has not yet responded to a request for a statement. 

 

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11:24am Thu 19 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Councillor Alex Folkes is a cabinet member and portfolio holder for finances and resources, as such, if he is found liable for council tax defaulting yet again, after a tribunal, then I believe he should forfeit his position as portfolio holder for finances and resources, and cabinet member.
Councillor Alex Folkes is a cabinet member and portfolio holder for finances and resources, as such, if he is found liable for council tax defaulting yet again, after a tribunal, then I believe he should forfeit his position as portfolio holder for finances and resources, and cabinet member. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 36

3:34pm Thu 19 Jun 14

telstar1962 says...

Between 1997 and 2010, Mr G Brown spent an awful lot of money, and ended up with a rather large deficit, and look what happened to him lol
Between 1997 and 2010, Mr G Brown spent an awful lot of money, and ended up with a rather large deficit, and look what happened to him lol telstar1962
  • Score: 16

5:57pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Aren't Cllrs in a cabinet position supposed to set a good example? I think the whole cabinet is rubbish.
Aren't Cllrs in a cabinet position supposed to set a good example? I think the whole cabinet is rubbish. Helston John
  • Score: 4

9:43pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Aren't Cllrs in a cabinet position supposed to set a good example? I think the whole cabinet is rubbish.
I think it is unfair to categorise the entire cabinet.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Aren't Cllrs in a cabinet position supposed to set a good example? I think the whole cabinet is rubbish.[/p][/quote]I think it is unfair to categorise the entire cabinet. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 11

5:16pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Aren't Cllrs in a cabinet position supposed to set a good example? I think the whole cabinet is rubbish.
I think it is unfair to categorise the entire cabinet.
Why is it unfair to categorise the whole cabinet? None of them do anything do they ?
Your comment already says Cllr Folkes should not be a Cllr,,,,

I reckon if he's not paid his council tax before then I think he hasn't this time and his former landlady is right,,,,

Why won't he give a statement to the Packet?
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Aren't Cllrs in a cabinet position supposed to set a good example? I think the whole cabinet is rubbish.[/p][/quote]I think it is unfair to categorise the entire cabinet.[/p][/quote]Why is it unfair to categorise the whole cabinet? None of them do anything do they ? Your comment already says Cllr Folkes should not be a Cllr,,,, I reckon if he's not paid his council tax before then I think he hasn't this time and his former landlady is right,,,, Why won't he give a statement to the Packet? Helston John
  • Score: 5

7:22pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

You may have dissentient ideas about the cabinet, but the fact remains the cabinet members all do something, they all hold different portfolios, if they did nothing, the whole structure of the administration would be pointless, and the council would fail to operate in its current state. Whether or not a cabinet, committee or hybrid governance would be best, is however debatable.

I did not state in my first post that Councillor Alex Folkes should not be a councillor at all. I said, should any tribunal find him liable for unpaid council tax then I believe he should forfeit his current position, I did not say he should forfeit being a councillor. He was voted in repetitively, therefore that tells me he must be doing something right.
I think what should be remembered, there are two sides to the story and we have only read one. I personally would not automatically assume he has done anything wrong.
You may have dissentient ideas about the cabinet, but the fact remains the cabinet members all do something, they all hold different portfolios, if they did nothing, the whole structure of the administration would be pointless, and the council would fail to operate in its current state. Whether or not a cabinet, committee or hybrid governance would be best, is however debatable. I did not state in my first post that Councillor Alex Folkes should not be a councillor at all. I said, should any tribunal find him liable for unpaid council tax then I believe he should forfeit his current position, I did not say he should forfeit being a councillor. He was voted in repetitively, therefore that tells me he must be doing something right. I think what should be remembered, there are two sides to the story and we have only read one. I personally would not automatically assume he has done anything wrong. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 8

9:27pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Point taken about the cabinet, but with Alex Folkes we will have to wait and see who's right,,,,, hope the Packet keeps us updated and hope he gives a statement to the Packet, otherwise he can only expect speculation.

Maybe if Cllrs were more open in general, and answered questions, there would be less frustration by the public, it's like trying to get blood out of a stone with some of them.
Point taken about the cabinet, but with Alex Folkes we will have to wait and see who's right,,,,, hope the Packet keeps us updated and hope he gives a statement to the Packet, otherwise he can only expect speculation. Maybe if Cllrs were more open in general, and answered questions, there would be less frustration by the public, it's like trying to get blood out of a stone with some of them. Helston John
  • Score: 6

4:42pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
You may have dissentient ideas about the cabinet, but the fact remains the cabinet members all do something, they all hold different portfolios, if they did nothing, the whole structure of the administration would be pointless, and the council would fail to operate in its current state. Whether or not a cabinet, committee or hybrid governance would be best, is however debatable.

I did not state in my first post that Councillor Alex Folkes should not be a councillor at all. I said, should any tribunal find him liable for unpaid council tax then I believe he should forfeit his current position, I did not say he should forfeit being a councillor. He was voted in repetitively, therefore that tells me he must be doing something right.
I think what should be remembered, there are two sides to the story and we have only read one. I personally would not automatically assume he has done anything wrong.
Wow, I've just dug out a load of stuff to read from when Alex Folkes defaulted on council tax before and he never came forward and admitted it, and it all kicked off, and some Cornwall Cllrs were demanding to know who Zella was,,,,
Who was StAustellAdam?
Who was Graham Smith?
I should have been reading the Packet website ages ago I think, I've missed a treat lol
Don't you honestly think Alex Folkes the landlady is doing the right thing? And Alex Folkes is in the wrong? What's your honest opinion?
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: You may have dissentient ideas about the cabinet, but the fact remains the cabinet members all do something, they all hold different portfolios, if they did nothing, the whole structure of the administration would be pointless, and the council would fail to operate in its current state. Whether or not a cabinet, committee or hybrid governance would be best, is however debatable. I did not state in my first post that Councillor Alex Folkes should not be a councillor at all. I said, should any tribunal find him liable for unpaid council tax then I believe he should forfeit his current position, I did not say he should forfeit being a councillor. He was voted in repetitively, therefore that tells me he must be doing something right. I think what should be remembered, there are two sides to the story and we have only read one. I personally would not automatically assume he has done anything wrong.[/p][/quote]Wow, I've just dug out a load of stuff to read from when Alex Folkes defaulted on council tax before and he never came forward and admitted it, and it all kicked off, and some Cornwall Cllrs were demanding to know who Zella was,,,, Who was StAustellAdam? Who was Graham Smith? I should have been reading the Packet website ages ago I think, I've missed a treat lol Don't you honestly think Alex Folkes the landlady is doing the right thing? And Alex Folkes is in the wrong? What's your honest opinion? Helston John
  • Score: 3

8:39am Mon 23 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Presumably you are referring to around August 2011!

I am not posting StAustellAdams full name, it is not my place to do so.

It was BBCs Graham Smith.

My honest opinion is as my previous posts state.

No I do not think Councillor Alex Folkes former landlady is doing the right thing putting things out on Twitter, if she feels she has a legitimate claim against him, in my opinion she should pursue it through the court.

Incidentally, I believe a councillor is inelligible to participate in decision making or voting on budgetary decisions, if they are two months or more behind with council tax payments!
Presumably you are referring to around August 2011! I am not posting StAustellAdams full name, it is not my place to do so. It was BBCs Graham Smith. My honest opinion is as my previous posts state. No I do not think Councillor Alex Folkes former landlady is doing the right thing putting things out on Twitter, if she feels she has a legitimate claim against him, in my opinion she should pursue it through the court. Incidentally, I believe a councillor is inelligible to participate in decision making or voting on budgetary decisions, if they are two months or more behind with council tax payments! Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 7

2:17pm Mon 23 Jun 14

@justifyjac says...

Hi , the reason that I have used tweeter is because Alex Folkes was ignoring emails, as he was so fond of tweeter I thought that maybe he do things the right way , as you can see from my tweeter @justfiyjac I only showed the pictures after he said he didn't leave the flat in a mess , he didn't pay his tent from Dec13 and mor has he ever given me this notice as you can see from emails on my tweeter page I have asked him to do. As a landlady I need to do things as set out in the contract
Hi , the reason that I have used tweeter is because Alex Folkes was ignoring emails, as he was so fond of tweeter I thought that maybe he do things the right way , as you can see from my tweeter @justfiyjac I only showed the pictures after he said he didn't leave the flat in a mess , he didn't pay his tent from Dec13 and mor has he ever given me this notice as you can see from emails on my tweeter page I have asked him to do. As a landlady I need to do things as set out in the contract @justifyjac
  • Score: -7

2:28pm Mon 23 Jun 14

@justifyjac says...

Sorry I was also going to add so does Mr Folkes I can not rent out to anyone until he quits, Courts are very expensive, and long winded , but it may come to that. Thank you Jacqui
Sorry I was also going to add so does Mr Folkes I can not rent out to anyone until he quits, Courts are very expensive, and long winded , but it may come to that. Thank you Jacqui @justifyjac
  • Score: -5

3:40pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

@justifyjac wrote:
Hi , the reason that I have used tweeter is because Alex Folkes was ignoring emails, as he was so fond of tweeter I thought that maybe he do things the right way , as you can see from my tweeter @justfiyjac I only showed the pictures after he said he didn't leave the flat in a mess , he didn't pay his tent from Dec13 and mor has he ever given me this notice as you can see from emails on my tweeter page I have asked him to do. As a landlady I need to do things as set out in the contract
According to the Western Morning News online article, it quotes Mrs Baseley as saying:

"I deliberately set up the Twitter account because I thought it might embarrass him into doing things properly but he completely ignores it and responds to me by e-mail"

It would appear as a discrepancy to me.
[quote][p][bold]@justifyjac[/bold] wrote: Hi , the reason that I have used tweeter is because Alex Folkes was ignoring emails, as he was so fond of tweeter I thought that maybe he do things the right way , as you can see from my tweeter @justfiyjac I only showed the pictures after he said he didn't leave the flat in a mess , he didn't pay his tent from Dec13 and mor has he ever given me this notice as you can see from emails on my tweeter page I have asked him to do. As a landlady I need to do things as set out in the contract[/p][/quote]According to the Western Morning News online article, it quotes Mrs Baseley as saying: "I deliberately set up the Twitter account because I thought it might embarrass him into doing things properly but he completely ignores it and responds to me by e-mail" It would appear as a discrepancy to me. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 7

4:02pm Mon 23 Jun 14

@justifyjac says...

Hi ,When his rent was late on Jan 2014 he was not answering my email until I sent him one on the 20th of Jan telling him he was still the tenant as he had not given his notice , please see email on tweeter on that date to him and from him , it was after this that I stared tweeter and he as never reposed to the tweeter but has emailed me about my tweeter and the flat Regards Jacqui
Hi ,When his rent was late on Jan 2014 he was not answering my email until I sent him one on the 20th of Jan telling him he was still the tenant as he had not given his notice , please see email on tweeter on that date to him and from him , it was after this that I stared tweeter and he as never reposed to the tweeter but has emailed me about my tweeter and the flat Regards Jacqui @justifyjac
  • Score: -5

5:13pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Helston John says...

@justifyjac wrote:
Hi ,When his rent was late on Jan 2014 he was not answering my email until I sent him one on the 20th of Jan telling him he was still the tenant as he had not given his notice , please see email on tweeter on that date to him and from him , it was after this that I stared tweeter and he as never reposed to the tweeter but has emailed me about my tweeter and the flat Regards Jacqui
Your twitter account has been suspended.
[quote][p][bold]@justifyjac[/bold] wrote: Hi ,When his rent was late on Jan 2014 he was not answering my email until I sent him one on the 20th of Jan telling him he was still the tenant as he had not given his notice , please see email on tweeter on that date to him and from him , it was after this that I stared tweeter and he as never reposed to the tweeter but has emailed me about my tweeter and the flat Regards Jacqui[/p][/quote]Your twitter account has been suspended. Helston John
  • Score: 13

5:17pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Can't wait to see what happens about the council tax. Hurry up Cornwall Council with your investigation to see who's liable. I think the landlady is right, I think Alex Folkes is heading for the door, bye bye Cornwall Council lol
Can't wait to see what happens about the council tax. Hurry up Cornwall Council with your investigation to see who's liable. I think the landlady is right, I think Alex Folkes is heading for the door, bye bye Cornwall Council lol Helston John
  • Score: -2

6:46pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

Shouldnt a landlady have a deposit from a tenant that she could keep when the tenant moves out if he owed money. Or a rental company. Surely you would know if he put the keys through door. Then just charge for one months notice if official notice wasnt given. Knowing.his track record and his public position i guess he would be an easy target.
Shouldnt a landlady have a deposit from a tenant that she could keep when the tenant moves out if he owed money. Or a rental company. Surely you would know if he put the keys through door. Then just charge for one months notice if official notice wasnt given. Knowing.his track record and his public position i guess he would be an easy target. Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 9

7:39pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Isn't CC irresponsible to let the council tax owing mount up so much without persuing it or taking action sooner?

This is the deputy leader of the Lib Dem party for the council we are talking about, one of the twitter gang, a cabinet member and in charge of the finances, I think the guys a joke. I think Cllrs should be responsible on twitter, as the public can read it all. With a cabinet members allowance couldn't he afford rent and council tax?
Isn't CC irresponsible to let the council tax owing mount up so much without persuing it or taking action sooner? This is the deputy leader of the Lib Dem party for the council we are talking about, one of the twitter gang, a cabinet member and in charge of the finances, I think the guys a joke. I think Cllrs should be responsible on twitter, as the public can read it all. With a cabinet members allowance couldn't he afford rent and council tax? Helston John
  • Score: 6

7:55pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Did he move out because he was behind with the bills ?
Did he move out because he was behind with the bills ? Helston John
  • Score: 0

8:05pm Mon 23 Jun 14

@justifyjac says...

It is true that my Twitter A/c has been suspended today but without my Twitter A/c none of you would have known about this. Alex Folkes is full of excuses each time he has failed to pay his council tax. I have, long before he claims to have left the flat, made it completely clear to him how he needs to go about ending his tenancy. He has chosen to ignore this. If I were to treat my tenants in the shoddy way that he has cheated me his council would be taking me to court for failure to sticking to the contract. The law protects tenants even when they in arrears with rent. I cannot re-let the flat until he is no longer the legal tenant. I would like to end by saying, whilst some may disagree with my methods, I am just a landlady trying to look after my livelihood. And I pay MY council tax. Regards to you all. Jacqui
It is true that my Twitter A/c has been suspended today but without my Twitter A/c none of you would have known about this. Alex Folkes is full of excuses each time he has failed to pay his council tax. I have, long before he claims to have left the flat, made it completely clear to him how he needs to go about ending his tenancy. He has chosen to ignore this. If I were to treat my tenants in the shoddy way that he has cheated me his council would be taking me to court for failure to sticking to the contract. The law protects tenants even when they in arrears with rent. I cannot re-let the flat until he is no longer the legal tenant. I would like to end by saying, whilst some may disagree with my methods, I am just a landlady trying to look after my livelihood. And I pay MY council tax. Regards to you all. Jacqui @justifyjac
  • Score: -4

9:10pm Mon 23 Jun 14

DCI Jen says...

As a former property manager in the lettings department of an estate agency, if one of our tenants surrendered their keys, even without official notification of end to their tenancy, it would be obvious they had ended their tenancy and as such we would seek to relet immediately which we would have every right to do. If they were on a fixed term tenancy, the rent due could be pursued through the small claims court but in my experience it is not worth the bother.
The deposit would be withheld as well if monies were owed.
To say you cannot relet the property if the keys have been surrendered is in my view just ridiculous.
As a former property manager in the lettings department of an estate agency, if one of our tenants surrendered their keys, even without official notification of end to their tenancy, it would be obvious they had ended their tenancy and as such we would seek to relet immediately which we would have every right to do. If they were on a fixed term tenancy, the rent due could be pursued through the small claims court but in my experience it is not worth the bother. The deposit would be withheld as well if monies were owed. To say you cannot relet the property if the keys have been surrendered is in my view just ridiculous. DCI Jen
  • Score: 6

6:48am Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Must admit i think the Western Morning News says in their article Alex Folkes has shown them a letter he got from a letting agency saying they are going to relet the flat, so the landlady must have acknowledged he has ended the tenancy,,,,
Must admit i think the Western Morning News says in their article Alex Folkes has shown them a letter he got from a letting agency saying they are going to relet the flat, so the landlady must have acknowledged he has ended the tenancy,,,, Helston John
  • Score: 7

6:54am Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

How can the rent keep mounting up? It also says in the Western Morning news, the landlady told Alex Folkes he now owed five months rent,,,, how can it keep mounting up after he'd left if she knew he'd left because it says he dropped the keys through the letterbox. And she could have kept the deposit.
Why did she let herself in as well while he was still renting it, that's what I read in the Western Morning News article. All sounds a bit weird to me,,,,,,
How can the rent keep mounting up? It also says in the Western Morning news, the landlady told Alex Folkes he now owed five months rent,,,, how can it keep mounting up after he'd left if she knew he'd left because it says he dropped the keys through the letterbox. And she could have kept the deposit. Why did she let herself in as well while he was still renting it, that's what I read in the Western Morning News article. All sounds a bit weird to me,,,,,, Helston John
  • Score: 6

7:03am Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
You may have dissentient ideas about the cabinet, but the fact remains the cabinet members all do something, they all hold different portfolios, if they did nothing, the whole structure of the administration would be pointless, and the council would fail to operate in its current state. Whether or not a cabinet, committee or hybrid governance would be best, is however debatable.

I did not state in my first post that Councillor Alex Folkes should not be a councillor at all. I said, should any tribunal find him liable for unpaid council tax then I believe he should forfeit his current position, I did not say he should forfeit being a councillor. He was voted in repetitively, therefore that tells me he must be doing something right.
I think what should be remembered, there are two sides to the story and we have only read one. I personally would not automatically assume he has done anything wrong.
Ive read other stufff now about it and I admit I now think you are right to say you wouldn't assume he has done anything wrong, I don't like the guy, but you seem to be looking at this with a fair view,,,,, you don't seem to have judged him or gone by his past council tax lack of payments,,, have to wait and see the outcome. When you first posted this had you read the Western Morning News article?
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: You may have dissentient ideas about the cabinet, but the fact remains the cabinet members all do something, they all hold different portfolios, if they did nothing, the whole structure of the administration would be pointless, and the council would fail to operate in its current state. Whether or not a cabinet, committee or hybrid governance would be best, is however debatable. I did not state in my first post that Councillor Alex Folkes should not be a councillor at all. I said, should any tribunal find him liable for unpaid council tax then I believe he should forfeit his current position, I did not say he should forfeit being a councillor. He was voted in repetitively, therefore that tells me he must be doing something right. I think what should be remembered, there are two sides to the story and we have only read one. I personally would not automatically assume he has done anything wrong.[/p][/quote]Ive read other stufff now about it and I admit I now think you are right to say you wouldn't assume he has done anything wrong, I don't like the guy, but you seem to be looking at this with a fair view,,,,, you don't seem to have judged him or gone by his past council tax lack of payments,,, have to wait and see the outcome. When you first posted this had you read the Western Morning News article? Helston John
  • Score: 8

8:18am Tue 24 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

No I had not read the Western Morning News article, I posted after reading this Packet article, the Western Morning News article was pointed out to me afterwards by someone else, hence my following post about the discrepancy.

I would not just assume that because Councillor Alex Folkes previously defaulted on council tax payments that he would do so again, nor would I assume he has done anything wrong without all the facts.
No doubt we will all know the outcome soon enough.

We are lucky enough to live in a country where we are presumed innocent until proven guilty.
No I had not read the Western Morning News article, I posted after reading this Packet article, the Western Morning News article was pointed out to me afterwards by someone else, hence my following post about the discrepancy. I would not just assume that because Councillor Alex Folkes previously defaulted on council tax payments that he would do so again, nor would I assume he has done anything wrong without all the facts. No doubt we will all know the outcome soon enough. We are lucky enough to live in a country where we are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 4

1:31pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Wouldn't you want to Alex Folkes got rid of from the council though? I think he's full of himself, his Twittter account is followed by some guy connected with Nick Clegg, all the Lib Dems club eh,,,, he failed to pay his council tax in the past so why should he be a Cllr now? I reckon this Lib Dem Indie cabinet coalition is lopsided, I don't believe all those Indies on the cabinet are true, I reckon some are Lib Dems, I reckon Cllr Wallis is Lib Dem, and that's why Cllr Rowe and him and Alex Folkes and Cllr Biscoe all got voted back in.
Wouldn't you want to Alex Folkes got rid of from the council though? I think he's full of himself, his Twittter account is followed by some guy connected with Nick Clegg, all the Lib Dems club eh,,,, he failed to pay his council tax in the past so why should he be a Cllr now? I reckon this Lib Dem Indie cabinet coalition is lopsided, I don't believe all those Indies on the cabinet are true, I reckon some are Lib Dems, I reckon Cllr Wallis is Lib Dem, and that's why Cllr Rowe and him and Alex Folkes and Cllr Biscoe all got voted back in. Helston John
  • Score: 5

8:37pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Wouldn't you want to Alex Folkes got rid of from the council though? I think he's full of himself, his Twittter account is followed by some guy connected with Nick Clegg, all the Lib Dems club eh,,,, he failed to pay his council tax in the past so why should he be a Cllr now? I reckon this Lib Dem Indie cabinet coalition is lopsided, I don't believe all those Indies on the cabinet are true, I reckon some are Lib Dems, I reckon Cllr Wallis is Lib Dem, and that's why Cllr Rowe and him and Alex Folkes and Cllr Biscoe all got voted back in.
I do not particularly wish to see any Councillor removed from the council.

Failing to pay his council tax in the past is irrelevant to Councillor Alex Folkes position now, there has been an election since then.

The reason the four Councillors you name were voted back in, was because they were popular with the electorate, that is democracy.

Councillor Andrew Wallis is Independent not Lib Dem. If you disagree why don't you ask him!
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't you want to Alex Folkes got rid of from the council though? I think he's full of himself, his Twittter account is followed by some guy connected with Nick Clegg, all the Lib Dems club eh,,,, he failed to pay his council tax in the past so why should he be a Cllr now? I reckon this Lib Dem Indie cabinet coalition is lopsided, I don't believe all those Indies on the cabinet are true, I reckon some are Lib Dems, I reckon Cllr Wallis is Lib Dem, and that's why Cllr Rowe and him and Alex Folkes and Cllr Biscoe all got voted back in.[/p][/quote]I do not particularly wish to see any Councillor removed from the council. Failing to pay his council tax in the past is irrelevant to Councillor Alex Folkes position now, there has been an election since then. The reason the four Councillors you name were voted back in, was because they were popular with the electorate, that is democracy. Councillor Andrew Wallis is Independent not Lib Dem. If you disagree why don't you ask him! Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 6

9:12pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Wouldn't you want to Alex Folkes got rid of from the council though? I think he's full of himself, his Twittter account is followed by some guy connected with Nick Clegg, all the Lib Dems club eh,,,, he failed to pay his council tax in the past so why should he be a Cllr now? I reckon this Lib Dem Indie cabinet coalition is lopsided, I don't believe all those Indies on the cabinet are true, I reckon some are Lib Dems, I reckon Cllr Wallis is Lib Dem, and that's why Cllr Rowe and him and Alex Folkes and Cllr Biscoe all got voted back in.
I do not particularly wish to see any Councillor removed from the council.

Failing to pay his council tax in the past is irrelevant to Councillor Alex Folkes position now, there has been an election since then.

The reason the four Councillors you name were voted back in, was because they were popular with the electorate, that is democracy.

Councillor Andrew Wallis is Independent not Lib Dem. If you disagree why don't you ask him!
Why don't you ask him? You said on here in the past you think not all the Independents were true Independents.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't you want to Alex Folkes got rid of from the council though? I think he's full of himself, his Twittter account is followed by some guy connected with Nick Clegg, all the Lib Dems club eh,,,, he failed to pay his council tax in the past so why should he be a Cllr now? I reckon this Lib Dem Indie cabinet coalition is lopsided, I don't believe all those Indies on the cabinet are true, I reckon some are Lib Dems, I reckon Cllr Wallis is Lib Dem, and that's why Cllr Rowe and him and Alex Folkes and Cllr Biscoe all got voted back in.[/p][/quote]I do not particularly wish to see any Councillor removed from the council. Failing to pay his council tax in the past is irrelevant to Councillor Alex Folkes position now, there has been an election since then. The reason the four Councillors you name were voted back in, was because they were popular with the electorate, that is democracy. Councillor Andrew Wallis is Independent not Lib Dem. If you disagree why don't you ask him![/p][/quote]Why don't you ask him? You said on here in the past you think not all the Independents were true Independents. Helston John
  • Score: 3

9:16pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Wouldn't you want to Alex Folkes got rid of from the council though? I think he's full of himself, his Twittter account is followed by some guy connected with Nick Clegg, all the Lib Dems club eh,,,, he failed to pay his council tax in the past so why should he be a Cllr now? I reckon this Lib Dem Indie cabinet coalition is lopsided, I don't believe all those Indies on the cabinet are true, I reckon some are Lib Dems, I reckon Cllr Wallis is Lib Dem, and that's why Cllr Rowe and him and Alex Folkes and Cllr Biscoe all got voted back in.
I do not particularly wish to see any Councillor removed from the council.

Failing to pay his council tax in the past is irrelevant to Councillor Alex Folkes position now, there has been an election since then.

The reason the four Councillors you name were voted back in, was because they were popular with the electorate, that is democracy.

Councillor Andrew Wallis is Independent not Lib Dem. If you disagree why don't you ask him!
Why don't you ask him? You said on here in the past you think not all the Independents were true Independents.
I do not need to ask anyone anything, I know who is not true Independent, and Councillor Andrew Wallis is an independent.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't you want to Alex Folkes got rid of from the council though? I think he's full of himself, his Twittter account is followed by some guy connected with Nick Clegg, all the Lib Dems club eh,,,, he failed to pay his council tax in the past so why should he be a Cllr now? I reckon this Lib Dem Indie cabinet coalition is lopsided, I don't believe all those Indies on the cabinet are true, I reckon some are Lib Dems, I reckon Cllr Wallis is Lib Dem, and that's why Cllr Rowe and him and Alex Folkes and Cllr Biscoe all got voted back in.[/p][/quote]I do not particularly wish to see any Councillor removed from the council. Failing to pay his council tax in the past is irrelevant to Councillor Alex Folkes position now, there has been an election since then. The reason the four Councillors you name were voted back in, was because they were popular with the electorate, that is democracy. Councillor Andrew Wallis is Independent not Lib Dem. If you disagree why don't you ask him![/p][/quote]Why don't you ask him? You said on here in the past you think not all the Independents were true Independents.[/p][/quote]I do not need to ask anyone anything, I know who is not true Independent, and Councillor Andrew Wallis is an independent. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 4

9:17pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

So who's not a true independent then?
So who's not a true independent then? Helston John
  • Score: 3

9:19pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

I not prepared to put that on a public website.
I not prepared to put that on a public website. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 5

9:20pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

In case you are sued for slander?
In case you are sued for slander? Helston John
  • Score: 4

9:22pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

No because it is categorically true. I just would not do it.
No because it is categorically true. I just would not do it. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 4

9:24pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Is it Cllr Wallis that is not Independent?
Is it Cllr Wallis that is not Independent? Helston John
  • Score: 3

9:25pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

No it is not Councillor Andrew Wallis. I have already said he is a true Independent.
No it is not Councillor Andrew Wallis. I have already said he is a true Independent. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 4

9:26pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Is it a cabinet member?
Is it a cabinet member? Helston John
  • Score: 3

9:31pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

No.
No. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 5

9:34pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

So people are voting Independent then and not really getting Independent, doesn't that make a mockery of voting, so if I vote independent at the next council election how do I know if I'm really voting independent or whether they could be a Lib Dem?
So people are voting Independent then and not really getting Independent, doesn't that make a mockery of voting, so if I vote independent at the next council election how do I know if I'm really voting independent or whether they could be a Lib Dem? Helston John
  • Score: 6

9:38pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Gill Z Martin says...

The next council elections are about four years away aren't they, so I wouldn't worry about it just yet lol

Depends where you live I suppose and who stands at the next council election.
The next council elections are about four years away aren't they, so I wouldn't worry about it just yet lol Depends where you live I suppose and who stands at the next council election. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 4

9:41pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Helston John says...

Well I'll certainly give it some thought because I don't want to vote Lib Dem if they're like Alex Folkes.
Well I'll certainly give it some thought because I don't want to vote Lib Dem if they're like Alex Folkes. Helston John
  • Score: 6

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