Port church almost 'cut off from humanity' by overgrowth

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Porthleven’s parish church is “almost cut off from humanity” according to one of the port’s councillors.

Dick Powell was complaining about the overgrowth that was engulfing St Bartholomew’s Church, adding that the entrance to Kittos Field car park had become “really congested” – a matter he raised at the last meeting of the council and with Cornwall councillor Andy Wallis.

He said he was concerned the weeds had become “quite an eyesore” to tourists getting their first sight of Porthleven.

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12:20pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Could the church not maybe organise a group of volunteers of which could tackle some of the weeds. I realise many church congregations consist of a relatively high percentage of senior citizens, some of which may be unable to participate, but perhaps help could be enlisted from friends, relatives, neighbours or other churches.
Could the church not maybe organise a group of volunteers of which could tackle some of the weeds. I realise many church congregations consist of a relatively high percentage of senior citizens, some of which may be unable to participate, but perhaps help could be enlisted from friends, relatives, neighbours or other churches. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 14

1:13pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

Isnt it CC responsibilty?
Isnt it CC responsibilty? Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: -7

1:27pm Thu 17 Jul 14

meerkats says...

must be bad cant even see a church in the pic lol. couldnt a group of people doing community service or as Gill has already said some volunteers tackle it?
must be bad cant even see a church in the pic lol. couldnt a group of people doing community service or as Gill has already said some volunteers tackle it? meerkats
  • Score: 12

2:20pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston fly on the wall wrote:
Isnt it CC responsibilty?
It may be the responsibility of Cornwall Council, however, personally I would rather do something constructive about it, seeing as Cornwall Council are cash strapped and they probably do not class it as a priority.
Perhaps if the weeds were cleared by volunteers it could be arranged for Cornwall Council to take some sacks full of weeds away as garden waste collection for recycling.
[quote][p][bold]Helston fly on the wall[/bold] wrote: Isnt it CC responsibilty?[/p][/quote]It may be the responsibility of Cornwall Council, however, personally I would rather do something constructive about it, seeing as Cornwall Council are cash strapped and they probably do not class it as a priority. Perhaps if the weeds were cleared by volunteers it could be arranged for Cornwall Council to take some sacks full of weeds away as garden waste collection for recycling. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 14

5:31pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Helston John says...

meerkats and Gill, this astounds me, both your comments were marked down from what they were and yet no one leaves a comment with a better idea, very Christian like I must say of them, no wonder some church goers get a reputation of being hypocrites, considering the article emphasises the weeds around the church I would think the people most interested in this article would be church goers as well as the complainant Cllr Powell. He complained before about carpark weeds. It strikes me Gill and meerkats sound more proactive than some of Porthleven Town Cllrs.
Helston fly on the wall, it's no good people just keep going on about Cornwall Council doing everything because the reality is they are short of money from the government and they have to prioritise their services. Either people like Cllr Powell can sit back and complain and want Cornwall Council to do everything or people can be like Gill and meerkats and find other ways round things.
meerkats and Gill, this astounds me, both your comments were marked down from what they were and yet no one leaves a comment with a better idea, very Christian like I must say of them, no wonder some church goers get a reputation of being hypocrites, considering the article emphasises the weeds around the church I would think the people most interested in this article would be church goers as well as the complainant Cllr Powell. He complained before about carpark weeds. It strikes me Gill and meerkats sound more proactive than some of Porthleven Town Cllrs. Helston fly on the wall, it's no good people just keep going on about Cornwall Council doing everything because the reality is they are short of money from the government and they have to prioritise their services. Either people like Cllr Powell can sit back and complain and want Cornwall Council to do everything or people can be like Gill and meerkats and find other ways round things. Helston John
  • Score: 12

9:44pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
meerkats and Gill, this astounds me, both your comments were marked down from what they were and yet no one leaves a comment with a better idea, very Christian like I must say of them, no wonder some church goers get a reputation of being hypocrites, considering the article emphasises the weeds around the church I would think the people most interested in this article would be church goers as well as the complainant Cllr Powell. He complained before about carpark weeds. It strikes me Gill and meerkats sound more proactive than some of Porthleven Town Cllrs.
Helston fly on the wall, it's no good people just keep going on about Cornwall Council doing everything because the reality is they are short of money from the government and they have to prioritise their services. Either people like Cllr Powell can sit back and complain and want Cornwall Council to do everything or people can be like Gill and meerkats and find other ways round things.
If people want to vote without commenting they are of course free to do so, and equally if they wish to comment they are all entitled to their own opinion, we cannot all think the same way. I only suggested ideas that I personally would try to do. I just feel it is always best to try something positive.
There is nothing wrong with Porthleven Town Council, I think they are very good.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: meerkats and Gill, this astounds me, both your comments were marked down from what they were and yet no one leaves a comment with a better idea, very Christian like I must say of them, no wonder some church goers get a reputation of being hypocrites, considering the article emphasises the weeds around the church I would think the people most interested in this article would be church goers as well as the complainant Cllr Powell. He complained before about carpark weeds. It strikes me Gill and meerkats sound more proactive than some of Porthleven Town Cllrs. Helston fly on the wall, it's no good people just keep going on about Cornwall Council doing everything because the reality is they are short of money from the government and they have to prioritise their services. Either people like Cllr Powell can sit back and complain and want Cornwall Council to do everything or people can be like Gill and meerkats and find other ways round things.[/p][/quote]If people want to vote without commenting they are of course free to do so, and equally if they wish to comment they are all entitled to their own opinion, we cannot all think the same way. I only suggested ideas that I personally would try to do. I just feel it is always best to try something positive. There is nothing wrong with Porthleven Town Council, I think they are very good. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 11

7:45am Sat 19 Jul 14

Helston fly on the wall says...

I was only asking if it is Cornwall Councils responsibility, i was wondering if this is more about Cllr Powell trying to prove a point with the Cornwall Cllr or whether the TC are really interested in doing something about it. If it was Helston TC they would have done something about it without waiting for Cornwall Council like they have about the fingerpost signs. Does Porthleven TC really want action or is Cllr Dick Powell more interested in scoring points over the Cornwall Cllr.
I was only asking if it is Cornwall Councils responsibility, i was wondering if this is more about Cllr Powell trying to prove a point with the Cornwall Cllr or whether the TC are really interested in doing something about it. If it was Helston TC they would have done something about it without waiting for Cornwall Council like they have about the fingerpost signs. Does Porthleven TC really want action or is Cllr Dick Powell more interested in scoring points over the Cornwall Cllr. Helston fly on the wall
  • Score: 9

8:58am Sat 19 Jul 14

DCI Jen says...

Cornwall Council didn't plant the weeds, the seeds/weeds must have originated from gardens or the Churchyard etc. Maybe people should keep their weeds under control and not let them spread onto council owned land. So if the council are quite happy with them there, I see no reason why they should remove them. Churches are one of the richest institutions in the country, can't they be community minded and pay a gardener.
I think that's a ridiculous argument that tourists first sight to Porthleven would be the weeds. Tourists to Porthleven that use the car park hardly ever leave the car park via the steps and Church Row, they mostly head straight down the road the way they drove in, to the harbour head. What percentage of tourists head for the Church. Considering lack of council money is prolific throughout the country, the places the tourists originate from probably have their own weeds anyway.
Cornwall Council didn't plant the weeds, the seeds/weeds must have originated from gardens or the Churchyard etc. Maybe people should keep their weeds under control and not let them spread onto council owned land. So if the council are quite happy with them there, I see no reason why they should remove them. Churches are one of the richest institutions in the country, can't they be community minded and pay a gardener. I think that's a ridiculous argument that tourists first sight to Porthleven would be the weeds. Tourists to Porthleven that use the car park hardly ever leave the car park via the steps and Church Row, they mostly head straight down the road the way they drove in, to the harbour head. What percentage of tourists head for the Church. Considering lack of council money is prolific throughout the country, the places the tourists originate from probably have their own weeds anyway. DCI Jen
  • Score: 9

2:40pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Helston John says...

It says on another article The Methodist Church are cleaning up WW1 graves with a small grant from Porthleven TC apparently, so why can't the Parish Church clean up their weeds with a small grant from their TC.
It says on another article The Methodist Church are cleaning up WW1 graves with a small grant from Porthleven TC apparently, so why can't the Parish Church clean up their weeds with a small grant from their TC. Helston John
  • Score: 7

10:22pm Sun 20 Jul 14

victoriameldrew says...

I thought St Gluvias cemetery in Penryn was bad - this looks far worse and, like Penryn, poses a danger to not just the elderly tending to their loved ones graves but to everybody. Broken hips, broken ankles, slipping and banging your head - all a possibility with slippery paths, long grass where you can't see the edges of paths - what would they rather have to pay for - clearing the weeds and long grass or someone suing for injury?!!
I thought St Gluvias cemetery in Penryn was bad - this looks far worse and, like Penryn, poses a danger to not just the elderly tending to their loved ones graves but to everybody. Broken hips, broken ankles, slipping and banging your head - all a possibility with slippery paths, long grass where you can't see the edges of paths - what would they rather have to pay for - clearing the weeds and long grass or someone suing for injury?!! victoriameldrew
  • Score: -11

7:38am Mon 21 Jul 14

DCI Jen says...

victoriameldrew wrote:
I thought St Gluvias cemetery in Penryn was bad - this looks far worse and, like Penryn, poses a danger to not just the elderly tending to their loved ones graves but to everybody. Broken hips, broken ankles, slipping and banging your head - all a possibility with slippery paths, long grass where you can't see the edges of paths - what would they rather have to pay for - clearing the weeds and long grass or someone suing for injury?!!
The picture above is not of the churchyard or anywhere related to it. The weeds are nothing like that. It is a few weeds near the adjacent car park and Church, It is not a public council owned cemetery, it is a church with a lane with houses leading up to it near a car park.
[quote][p][bold]victoriameldrew[/bold] wrote: I thought St Gluvias cemetery in Penryn was bad - this looks far worse and, like Penryn, poses a danger to not just the elderly tending to their loved ones graves but to everybody. Broken hips, broken ankles, slipping and banging your head - all a possibility with slippery paths, long grass where you can't see the edges of paths - what would they rather have to pay for - clearing the weeds and long grass or someone suing for injury?!![/p][/quote]The picture above is not of the churchyard or anywhere related to it. The weeds are nothing like that. It is a few weeds near the adjacent car park and Church, It is not a public council owned cemetery, it is a church with a lane with houses leading up to it near a car park. DCI Jen
  • Score: 9

7:39am Mon 21 Jul 14

DCI Jen says...

victoriameldrew wrote:
I thought St Gluvias cemetery in Penryn was bad - this looks far worse and, like Penryn, poses a danger to not just the elderly tending to their loved ones graves but to everybody. Broken hips, broken ankles, slipping and banging your head - all a possibility with slippery paths, long grass where you can't see the edges of paths - what would they rather have to pay for - clearing the weeds and long grass or someone suing for injury?!!
The church and its grounds are the responsibility of the church not the council.
[quote][p][bold]victoriameldrew[/bold] wrote: I thought St Gluvias cemetery in Penryn was bad - this looks far worse and, like Penryn, poses a danger to not just the elderly tending to their loved ones graves but to everybody. Broken hips, broken ankles, slipping and banging your head - all a possibility with slippery paths, long grass where you can't see the edges of paths - what would they rather have to pay for - clearing the weeds and long grass or someone suing for injury?!![/p][/quote]The church and its grounds are the responsibility of the church not the council. DCI Jen
  • Score: 12

7:27pm Mon 21 Jul 14

victoriameldrew says...

DCI Jen wrote:
victoriameldrew wrote:
I thought St Gluvias cemetery in Penryn was bad - this looks far worse and, like Penryn, poses a danger to not just the elderly tending to their loved ones graves but to everybody. Broken hips, broken ankles, slipping and banging your head - all a possibility with slippery paths, long grass where you can't see the edges of paths - what would they rather have to pay for - clearing the weeds and long grass or someone suing for injury?!!
The church and its grounds are the responsibility of the church not the council.
did I say anywhere in my comment that it was the responsibility of the council? No, I didn't!!
[quote][p][bold]DCI Jen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]victoriameldrew[/bold] wrote: I thought St Gluvias cemetery in Penryn was bad - this looks far worse and, like Penryn, poses a danger to not just the elderly tending to their loved ones graves but to everybody. Broken hips, broken ankles, slipping and banging your head - all a possibility with slippery paths, long grass where you can't see the edges of paths - what would they rather have to pay for - clearing the weeds and long grass or someone suing for injury?!![/p][/quote]The church and its grounds are the responsibility of the church not the council.[/p][/quote]did I say anywhere in my comment that it was the responsibility of the council? No, I didn't!! victoriameldrew
  • Score: -5

8:39pm Mon 21 Jul 14

DCI Jen says...

victoriameldrew, I never said you had stated the church and the grounds were the responsibility of the council, I was merely pointing out for that reason it differs from the Penryn cemetery situation.
victoriameldrew, I never said you had stated the church and the grounds were the responsibility of the council, I was merely pointing out for that reason it differs from the Penryn cemetery situation. DCI Jen
  • Score: 5
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