'Disgusting' meat fears investigated after Helston street market

Liz Layzell and husband John had concerns over the way pork was handled at one of the European street markets

Liz Layzell and husband John had concerns over the way pork was handled at one of the European street markets

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Food safety officers have vowed to investigate claims over the “disgusting” and potentially risky way meat was handled at a Helston street market over the weekend.

It follows the European street market that took place in Coinagehall Street last Friday and Saturday.

Concerns were raised over some of the food hygiene practices at the market – in particular over the way pork was dealt with on the “free range hog roast” stall.

It has been claimed that on the first day of the market, last Friday, stallholders took a piece of frozen cooked pork and proceeded to pour hot water over the top to thaw it, while scraping down the sides with a “paint stripper” style tool.

The pieces of pork were then heated on the griddle before serving.

John and Liz Layzell, owners of Mother’s bakery watched from inside their shop, along with customers.

Mr Layzell said: “The way the guy was going at this pork, it was disgusting. I had customers looking towards it and they said, ‘I can’t believe they’re doing that.’ “He was banging away at it, trying to get it into slices. How on earth they could put ‘free range hog roast’ is beyond me. That scared me.”

The Packet has also been contacted by one of the members angry at the positioning of a hog roast stall in front Mother’s, which also sells pork baps.

But Mr Layzell said: “I’ve been down here 14 years. I’ve seen food shops come and go – competition isn’t a problem for me.

“My concern is someone was going to get very, very ill with the way the food was being handled.”

The Packet has spoken to a local trained chef, who also had major concerns about this practice of defrosting.

He said: “Pork and chicken are two of the most risky meats. They should be defrosted thoroughly in the fridge.

“To do that [with hot water] is very risky. Even if I defrosted a piece in the fridge I wouldn’t use it until it was fully defrosted.

“You’re asking for massive problems – I’m surprised no one has phoned in with food poisoning.”

Nick Kelly, Cornwall Council food and health and safety manager, said: “We take all complaints about food businesses seriously and will follow up on the issues raised.

“Anyone who has concerns about a food business, or who has witnessed the incidents referred to, should contact us by email envhealthandlicensing@cornwall.gov.uk or phone us on 0300 1234 212.”

Olivier Simonin, market organiser with Traditional Markets, said he would take the comments back to the stallholders, but defended their actions.

He told the Packet: “Normally they thaw [the meat] overnight – I’ve seen them do it. Maybe he had to defrost it quite quickly. I’ve done it for 20 years and never got sick. I don’t think that’s the highest risk.

“It’s better to have this meat frozen rather than normal temperature for a while.

“You can’t have the same practices [as] in a restaurant, when it’s much easier to handle the food.”

It was also claimed that biscuits and synthetic cream cakes were left on one of the stalls overnight, with only the sides of the stall rolled down.

Mr Layzell said: “Biscuits, cakes and sweets were all there left from the night before. The cakes weren’t in a refrigerator even. If there are any flies, some person is going to become very poorly.”

However, Mr Simonin denied this, saying: “That’s not true. They are covered overnight.”

Mark Upton, speaking on behalf of the events and markets group of Helston Business Improvement Partnership, which booked the market, said: “If any member of the public sees somebody using a practice they feel isn’t correct they should report it to Environmental Health.

“They’re invited by us and they pay a fee for using the stalls – all the markets are subject to hygiene and public liability.”

He confirmed that food hygiene and public liability certificates were viewed on the stalls by event organiser Emma Wooderson.

Environmental Health can also carry out spot checks at any time.

 

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9:10am Thu 24 Jul 14

telstar1962 says...

Oh dear. Let's hope nobody suffers because of this alleged practice.

There are certain food establishments I avoid when I see the staff standing outside smoking cigarettes whist on their break, during the working day.
That doesn't seem very hygienic ( promoting health and cleanliness ) either, and you just hope they have washed their hands thoroughly before handling my pasty.
Oh dear. Let's hope nobody suffers because of this alleged practice. There are certain food establishments I avoid when I see the staff standing outside smoking cigarettes whist on their break, during the working day. That doesn't seem very hygienic ( promoting health and cleanliness ) either, and you just hope they have washed their hands thoroughly before handling my pasty. telstar1962
  • Score: -8

9:14am Thu 24 Jul 14

Eddy boy says...

Even worse if the staff were to go from handling money to preparing food to smoking roll ups in the shop porch way with no sign of hand washing what so ever and returning to handle food - just saying!
Even worse if the staff were to go from handling money to preparing food to smoking roll ups in the shop porch way with no sign of hand washing what so ever and returning to handle food - just saying! Eddy boy
  • Score: 5

10:01am Thu 24 Jul 14

Deemon80 says...

Very concerning to read that the council condone these pratices and whilst I appreciate they are trying to improve footfall for businesses in Helston by running these weekly markets, why allow stalls to pay minimal rent to sell a product that is already available in the town and put them in a premium location? It doesn't make sense.
Very concerning to read that the council condone these pratices and whilst I appreciate they are trying to improve footfall for businesses in Helston by running these weekly markets, why allow stalls to pay minimal rent to sell a product that is already available in the town and put them in a premium location? It doesn't make sense. Deemon80
  • Score: -16

2:10pm Thu 24 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Maybe the staff were complaining because the stall was in the way of their fag butt gutter...
Maybe the staff were complaining because the stall was in the way of their fag butt gutter... krazyitchkatie
  • Score: 5

3:08pm Thu 24 Jul 14

meerkats says...

krazyitchkatie wrote:
Maybe the staff were complaining because the stall was in the way of their fag butt gutter...
Goish this is all sounding better by the minute lol,
[quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: Maybe the staff were complaining because the stall was in the way of their fag butt gutter...[/p][/quote]Goish this is all sounding better by the minute lol, meerkats
  • Score: -7

3:14pm Thu 24 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

meerkats wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Maybe the staff were complaining because the stall was in the way of their fag butt gutter...
Goish this is all sounding better by the minute lol,
It is gross.

As for the defrosting on a stall, as long as the scrapings are cooked thoroughly, no-one would get ill would they? I thought the issue with cooking frozen food was ensuring it reached the correct temperature all the way through, which if he is scraping thin bits off for cooking, it would...

It might not be the preferable way to cook meat for the nicest texture/taste but I'd rather that than chopping chunks off a pre-defrosted, getting-warmer-by-th
e-minute lump of meat...
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: Maybe the staff were complaining because the stall was in the way of their fag butt gutter...[/p][/quote]Goish this is all sounding better by the minute lol,[/p][/quote]It is gross. As for the defrosting on a stall, as long as the scrapings are cooked thoroughly, no-one would get ill would they? I thought the issue with cooking frozen food was ensuring it reached the correct temperature all the way through, which if he is scraping thin bits off for cooking, it would... It might not be the preferable way to cook meat for the nicest texture/taste but I'd rather that than chopping chunks off a pre-defrosted, getting-warmer-by-th e-minute lump of meat... krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -9

3:25pm Thu 24 Jul 14

meerkats says...

krazyitchkatie wrote:
meerkats wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Maybe the staff were complaining because the stall was in the way of their fag butt gutter...
Goish this is all sounding better by the minute lol,
It is gross.

As for the defrosting on a stall, as long as the scrapings are cooked thoroughly, no-one would get ill would they? I thought the issue with cooking frozen food was ensuring it reached the correct temperature all the way through, which if he is scraping thin bits off for cooking, it would...

It might not be the preferable way to cook meat for the nicest texture/taste but I'd rather that than chopping chunks off a pre-defrosted, getting-warmer-by-th

e-minute lump of meat...
should have said gosh and not the way i spelt it, i have not heard of anyone saying they have been ill from eating food from there as yet
[quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: Maybe the staff were complaining because the stall was in the way of their fag butt gutter...[/p][/quote]Goish this is all sounding better by the minute lol,[/p][/quote]It is gross. As for the defrosting on a stall, as long as the scrapings are cooked thoroughly, no-one would get ill would they? I thought the issue with cooking frozen food was ensuring it reached the correct temperature all the way through, which if he is scraping thin bits off for cooking, it would... It might not be the preferable way to cook meat for the nicest texture/taste but I'd rather that than chopping chunks off a pre-defrosted, getting-warmer-by-th e-minute lump of meat...[/p][/quote]should have said gosh and not the way i spelt it, i have not heard of anyone saying they have been ill from eating food from there as yet meerkats
  • Score: -18

7:53pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Gill Z Martin says...

I thought the groups and individuals in Helston were supposed to be working together for the united good of the town, including the HBIP members, the council, shop staff, market traders, etc, to increase footfall and secure employment. This publicity is bad enough on its own for the reputation of a market town, and now it appears to be exacerbated on a public website, by the derogatory comments about shop staff, "fag butts" smoking hygiene and pasties. Surely it would have been more productive to give out messages of positivity, not add to the bad publicity.
I thought the groups and individuals in Helston were supposed to be working together for the united good of the town, including the HBIP members, the council, shop staff, market traders, etc, to increase footfall and secure employment. This publicity is bad enough on its own for the reputation of a market town, and now it appears to be exacerbated on a public website, by the derogatory comments about shop staff, "fag butts" smoking hygiene and pasties. Surely it would have been more productive to give out messages of positivity, not add to the bad publicity. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 10

9:26pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Lev Repel says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
I thought the groups and individuals in Helston were supposed to be working together for the united good of the town, including the HBIP members, the council, shop staff, market traders, etc, to increase footfall and secure employment. This publicity is bad enough on its own for the reputation of a market town, and now it appears to be exacerbated on a public website, by the derogatory comments about shop staff, "fag butts" smoking hygiene and pasties. Surely it would have been more productive to give out messages of positivity, not add to the bad publicity.
They don't like your comment, but its hit the nail on the head.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: I thought the groups and individuals in Helston were supposed to be working together for the united good of the town, including the HBIP members, the council, shop staff, market traders, etc, to increase footfall and secure employment. This publicity is bad enough on its own for the reputation of a market town, and now it appears to be exacerbated on a public website, by the derogatory comments about shop staff, "fag butts" smoking hygiene and pasties. Surely it would have been more productive to give out messages of positivity, not add to the bad publicity.[/p][/quote]They don't like your comment, but its hit the nail on the head. Lev Repel
  • Score: 4

8:38am Fri 25 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

True GZM - to a point. But to improve the town a degree of realism is required. And the reality is that a prominently placed, central business could do much to improve the main street by looking at its own practices.
True GZM - to a point. But to improve the town a degree of realism is required. And the reality is that a prominently placed, central business could do much to improve the main street by looking at its own practices. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: 3

9:30am Fri 25 Jul 14

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe says...

Let she who is without sin cast the first stone...
Let she who is without sin cast the first stone... Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe
  • Score: 4

11:20am Fri 25 Jul 14

Helston John says...

Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe wrote:
Let she who is without sin cast the first stone...
I notice you say "she" would you be referring to the businesses/markets people?Or Gills comment?
I have never seen Gill comment on here detrimentally about the businesses or market stalls or shop staff, only that she patroness the town and markets frequently, I have only read her criticism of the benches but she did say afterwards they are now all ok, and that is irrelevant to sales and hygiene which are the most important things to promote a town with or lose sales with bad practices. On telstars1962s comment alone I now wouldn't buy any pasties in town. If we are talking fag butts maybe the staff from jj news should use the litter bin and not the kennels, so I don't think it's an isolated problem.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Barrington Forbes-Smythe[/bold] wrote: Let she who is without sin cast the first stone...[/p][/quote]I notice you say "she" would you be referring to the businesses/markets people?Or Gills comment? I have never seen Gill comment on here detrimentally about the businesses or market stalls or shop staff, only that she patroness the town and markets frequently, I have only read her criticism of the benches but she did say afterwards they are now all ok, and that is irrelevant to sales and hygiene which are the most important things to promote a town with or lose sales with bad practices. On telstars1962s comment alone I now wouldn't buy any pasties in town. If we are talking fag butts maybe the staff from jj news should use the litter bin and not the kennels, so I don't think it's an isolated problem. Helston John
  • Score: 15

12:41pm Fri 25 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Peter Falmouth wrote:
Some of you make me laugh in Helston Krazyitchkatie about fag buttts and Ronedgcumbe about Cllrs, you moan about things but do you ever go to these shops and tell the people what you think? Plainly not. You must have witnessed it to say it on here so why not tell the people themselves or how else do you propose to improve your town. Or get your little group you play with to write letters to the offending shops. As for Edgcumbe why don't he tell the Cllrs he's always moaning about. why don't you front up and email these people and tell them or face to face whatever, instead of whining on here. How many of you have even ever been to a council meeting, we have them in Falmouth you must have them in Helston or email the Cllrs and raise your bloody issues.
Thanks Peter - I've actually done all of the above as and when required to more than one business in town and even been on my hands and knees picking up the fag butts and scraping the chewing gum off the pavements and out of the kennels so I'd say the little group I play with is doing its bit - am I allowed to voice a personal opinion, on a public site, in context, now?
[quote][p][bold]Peter Falmouth[/bold] wrote: Some of you make me laugh in Helston Krazyitchkatie about fag buttts and Ronedgcumbe about Cllrs, you moan about things but do you ever go to these shops and tell the people what you think? Plainly not. You must have witnessed it to say it on here so why not tell the people themselves or how else do you propose to improve your town. Or get your little group you play with to write letters to the offending shops. As for Edgcumbe why don't he tell the Cllrs he's always moaning about. why don't you front up and email these people and tell them or face to face whatever, instead of whining on here. How many of you have even ever been to a council meeting, we have them in Falmouth you must have them in Helston or email the Cllrs and raise your bloody issues.[/p][/quote]Thanks Peter - I've actually done all of the above as and when required to more than one business in town and even been on my hands and knees picking up the fag butts and scraping the chewing gum off the pavements and out of the kennels so I'd say the little group I play with is doing its bit - am I allowed to voice a personal opinion, on a public site, in context, now? krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -12

3:07pm Fri 25 Jul 14

telstar1962 says...

I am legally allowed to express my personal opinion, not anything that is false, abusive or malicious on here, whether it's anonymous or not.

On the subject of food retailers, to which this news article relates, I am entitled to state that if I see their staff or owners smoking, then I prefer to buy my freshly baked and prepared food from an establishment where I have not seen these practices on their doorway. In my view this comment will hardly harm the reputation of Helston, neither did I say that I saw this practice outside every Pasty Shop.( Helston John) My message, and therefore my opinion is, whether construed to be positive or negative, that smoking and food preparation should be kept distinctly separate over the course of a working day, whether the staff are legally allowed to smoke in their break-time or not. My argument is that it does not give the most positive or hygienic appearance to any business like this that allows it on the door-step. And whether pointing out that staff smoking outside actually adds to the bad publicity ? Am I the only one to notice ?
I am legally allowed to express my personal opinion, not anything that is false, abusive or malicious on here, whether it's anonymous or not. On the subject of food retailers, to which this news article relates, I am entitled to state that if I see their staff or owners smoking, then I prefer to buy my freshly baked and prepared food from an establishment where I have not seen these practices on their doorway. In my view this comment will hardly harm the reputation of Helston, neither did I say that I saw this practice outside every Pasty Shop.( Helston John) My message, and therefore my opinion is, whether construed to be positive or negative, that smoking and food preparation should be kept distinctly separate over the course of a working day, whether the staff are legally allowed to smoke in their break-time or not. My argument is that it does not give the most positive or hygienic appearance to any business like this that allows it on the door-step. And whether pointing out that staff smoking outside actually adds to the bad publicity ? Am I the only one to notice ? telstar1962
  • Score: 3

3:25pm Fri 25 Jul 14

telstar1962 says...

Peter Falmouth needs to go to Specsavers

I have never said I run a business in Helston. My comment states 'in the Helston area' That's not quite the same.

Why do you think a public smoking ban was introduced some time ago ?

If anything my business has helped trade significantly over the years, and I am not troubled by Falmouthians thinking I am stuffing up trade in Helston (very funny)
Peter Falmouth needs to go to Specsavers I have never said I run a business in Helston. My comment states 'in the Helston area' That's not quite the same. Why do you think a public smoking ban was introduced some time ago ? If anything my business has helped trade significantly over the years, and I am not troubled by Falmouthians thinking I am stuffing up trade in Helston (very funny) telstar1962
  • Score: -1

7:35am Sat 26 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Dear Peter, I don't know what life has done to make you so bitter and nasty but it's unnecessary and unwelcome.
Dear Peter, I don't know what life has done to make you so bitter and nasty but it's unnecessary and unwelcome. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -3

1:35pm Sat 26 Jul 14

telstar1962 says...

No, I am not a mini-cab driver, and am certainly not a member of any business club or betterment society.

My comments stand, and you wouldn't find me using any takeaway food establishment where the staff and owners are seen constantly on the doorstep smoking.and that's whether it's in London, New York, Paris or Quaint Old Helston Town. So if outsiders to Helston are bothered, there are many, many more fast food outlets to chose from, and if you're in Falmouth, at least you've got the added luxury of McDonalds nearby lol
No, I am not a mini-cab driver, and am certainly not a member of any business club or betterment society. My comments stand, and you wouldn't find me using any takeaway food establishment where the staff and owners are seen constantly on the doorstep smoking.and that's whether it's in London, New York, Paris or Quaint Old Helston Town. So if outsiders to Helston are bothered, there are many, many more fast food outlets to chose from, and if you're in Falmouth, at least you've got the added luxury of McDonalds nearby lol telstar1962
  • Score: 1

1:35pm Sat 26 Jul 14

telstar1962 says...

No, I am not a mini-cab driver, and am certainly not a member of any business club or betterment society.

My comments stand, and you wouldn't find me using any takeaway food establishment where the staff and owners are seen constantly on the doorstep smoking.and that's whether it's in London, New York, Paris or Quaint Old Helston Town. So if outsiders to Helston are bothered, there are many, many more fast food outlets to chose from, and if you're in Falmouth, at least you've got the added luxury of McDonalds nearby lol
No, I am not a mini-cab driver, and am certainly not a member of any business club or betterment society. My comments stand, and you wouldn't find me using any takeaway food establishment where the staff and owners are seen constantly on the doorstep smoking.and that's whether it's in London, New York, Paris or Quaint Old Helston Town. So if outsiders to Helston are bothered, there are many, many more fast food outlets to chose from, and if you're in Falmouth, at least you've got the added luxury of McDonalds nearby lol telstar1962
  • Score: 1

3:00pm Sat 26 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Peter Falmouth wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Dear Peter, I don't know what life has done to make you so bitter and nasty but it's unnecessary and unwelcome.
I've noticed on here that as soon as anyone criticises your little business group, or mentions the logo or money they wasted, you try and turn it around and say people are nasty or bitter etc. I'm not bitter and nasty I'm just real thinking, look at yourselves over in Helston, you bicker and whine amongst yourselves namely between scoring points between the council and the business group, you couldn't even let a bloke that won an award enjoy it, you sounded jealous and bitter because your little group didn't get an award for cleaning up. How about stop trying to promote yourselves and promote what's good for your town instead.why do think Falmouth is doing better than Helston. How long does it take Helston to apply for BID town status for crying out loud. What is the matter with you lot, too many groups challenging each other, the evidence is in your comments on here.
Evidently our problem is we don't have you here solving everything for us.
[quote][p][bold]Peter Falmouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: Dear Peter, I don't know what life has done to make you so bitter and nasty but it's unnecessary and unwelcome.[/p][/quote]I've noticed on here that as soon as anyone criticises your little business group, or mentions the logo or money they wasted, you try and turn it around and say people are nasty or bitter etc. I'm not bitter and nasty I'm just real thinking, look at yourselves over in Helston, you bicker and whine amongst yourselves namely between scoring points between the council and the business group, you couldn't even let a bloke that won an award enjoy it, you sounded jealous and bitter because your little group didn't get an award for cleaning up. How about stop trying to promote yourselves and promote what's good for your town instead.why do think Falmouth is doing better than Helston. How long does it take Helston to apply for BID town status for crying out loud. What is the matter with you lot, too many groups challenging each other, the evidence is in your comments on here.[/p][/quote]Evidently our problem is we don't have you here solving everything for us. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -18

4:56pm Sat 26 Jul 14

telstar1962 says...

Your last comment above Krazyitchkate, is the best you have made to date on this web-site x

like
iike
like

thumbs up !!!!!

lol
Your last comment above Krazyitchkate, is the best you have made to date on this web-site x like iike like thumbs up !!!!! lol telstar1962
  • Score: -1

6:30pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Penrynner says...

telstar1962 says...
""" ... and if you're in Falmouth, at least you've got the added luxury of McDonalds nearby lol"""

And they have also got a KFC. .... Oh wait, ... weren't they in the news recently?
telstar1962 says... """ ... and if you're in Falmouth, at least you've got the added luxury of McDonalds nearby lol""" And they have also got a KFC. .... Oh wait, ... weren't they in the news recently? Penrynner
  • Score: -4

8:34pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Jirakitt says...

Peter Falmouth is god. Do not question him. He knows what's best for you, me and everyone on this his planet. Bow down for his greatness and all powering sir peter. 'Get a life, you lot'
Peter Falmouth is god. Do not question him. He knows what's best for you, me and everyone on this his planet. Bow down for his greatness and all powering sir peter. 'Get a life, you lot' Jirakitt
  • Score: 1

8:49pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Penrynner says...

He can't be that great. He's still living there, paying water bills of a thousand quid a year, council tax of twelve to fifteen hundred a year, etc, etc, etc, getting ripped off everywhere he turns, and like sheep, is content to pay through the nose for every necessity of life.

I expatriated, out of Great Britanistan, out of Europe, to South America, where you don't need heating, (another fifteen hundred a year saved), and you can actually live in luxury on the UK state pension. And you know what? The people are nicer too, judging by the standard of infighting on this board.

I look at the comments on here, and I wonder why I didn't do this years ago.
He can't be that great. He's still living there, paying water bills of a thousand quid a year, council tax of twelve to fifteen hundred a year, etc, etc, etc, getting ripped off everywhere he turns, and like sheep, is content to pay through the nose for every necessity of life. I expatriated, out of Great Britanistan, out of Europe, to South America, where you don't need heating, (another fifteen hundred a year saved), and you can actually live in luxury on the UK state pension. And you know what? The people are nicer too, judging by the standard of infighting on this board. I look at the comments on here, and I wonder why I didn't do this years ago. Penrynner
  • Score: -14

8:24am Mon 28 Jul 14

telstar1962 says...

Yeah, Penrynner did a runner to Colombia ?

where everything is free lol
Yeah, Penrynner did a runner to Colombia ? where everything is free lol telstar1962
  • Score: 20

11:10am Mon 28 Jul 14

Helston John says...

Penrynner wrote:
He can't be that great. He's still living there, paying water bills of a thousand quid a year, council tax of twelve to fifteen hundred a year, etc, etc, etc, getting ripped off everywhere he turns, and like sheep, is content to pay through the nose for every necessity of life.

I expatriated, out of Great Britanistan, out of Europe, to South America, where you don't need heating, (another fifteen hundred a year saved), and you can actually live in luxury on the UK state pension. And you know what? The people are nicer too, judging by the standard of infighting on this board.

I look at the comments on here, and I wonder why I didn't do this years ago.
Can't believe anyone that moves to South America is completely happy there if they are still checking out the packet website to see what's happening here. Beautiful weather here for weeks now, I love the different seasons here in Cornwall. I'd rather have less money and live Cornwall than somewhere like South America. As for friendliness, human nature dictates people will disagree, you can't generalise anywhere. I find nothing wrong with the friendliness of Gill meerkats and Telstar on this forum either.
[quote][p][bold]Penrynner[/bold] wrote: He can't be that great. He's still living there, paying water bills of a thousand quid a year, council tax of twelve to fifteen hundred a year, etc, etc, etc, getting ripped off everywhere he turns, and like sheep, is content to pay through the nose for every necessity of life. I expatriated, out of Great Britanistan, out of Europe, to South America, where you don't need heating, (another fifteen hundred a year saved), and you can actually live in luxury on the UK state pension. And you know what? The people are nicer too, judging by the standard of infighting on this board. I look at the comments on here, and I wonder why I didn't do this years ago.[/p][/quote]Can't believe anyone that moves to South America is completely happy there if they are still checking out the packet website to see what's happening here. Beautiful weather here for weeks now, I love the different seasons here in Cornwall. I'd rather have less money and live Cornwall than somewhere like South America. As for friendliness, human nature dictates people will disagree, you can't generalise anywhere. I find nothing wrong with the friendliness of Gill meerkats and Telstar on this forum either. Helston John
  • Score: 15

1:23pm Mon 28 Jul 14

telstar1962 says...

Cannot believe anyone would thumbs down Helston John's post

How miserable.
Cannot believe anyone would thumbs down Helston John's post How miserable. telstar1962
  • Score: 16

1:35pm Mon 28 Jul 14

meerkats says...

telstar1962 wrote:
Cannot believe anyone would thumbs down Helston John's post

How miserable.
there is a regular pattern of most comments on most articles getting thumbs down apart from the odd one or two which gets a lot of thumbs up . coincidence or what ?
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Cannot believe anyone would thumbs down Helston John's post How miserable.[/p][/quote]there is a regular pattern of most comments on most articles getting thumbs down apart from the odd one or two which gets a lot of thumbs up . coincidence or what ? meerkats
  • Score: -5

1:36pm Mon 28 Jul 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Talking of coincidences, I haven't seen anyone smoking outside Mothers for a few days... lol
Talking of coincidences, I haven't seen anyone smoking outside Mothers for a few days... lol krazyitchkatie
  • Score: 6

4:15pm Mon 28 Jul 14

meerkats says...

Peter Falmouth wrote:
Penrynner wrote:
He can't be that great. He's still living there, paying water bills of a thousand quid a year, council tax of twelve to fifteen hundred a year, etc, etc, etc, getting ripped off everywhere he turns, and like sheep, is content to pay through the nose for every necessity of life.

I expatriated, out of Great Britanistan, out of Europe, to South America, where you don't need heating, (another fifteen hundred a year saved), and you can actually live in luxury on the UK state pension. And you know what? The people are nicer too, judging by the standard of infighting on this board.

I look at the comments on here, and I wonder why I didn't do this years ago.
keeping hold of your good old penrunner user name then. Still can't drag yourself away from the website while Your're in South Africa. Anyone that has to get on here and try and justify how great it is out there just shows its a load of cr@p. Penryns well rid of you.
South America not South Africa
[quote][p][bold]Peter Falmouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Penrynner[/bold] wrote: He can't be that great. He's still living there, paying water bills of a thousand quid a year, council tax of twelve to fifteen hundred a year, etc, etc, etc, getting ripped off everywhere he turns, and like sheep, is content to pay through the nose for every necessity of life. I expatriated, out of Great Britanistan, out of Europe, to South America, where you don't need heating, (another fifteen hundred a year saved), and you can actually live in luxury on the UK state pension. And you know what? The people are nicer too, judging by the standard of infighting on this board. I look at the comments on here, and I wonder why I didn't do this years ago.[/p][/quote]keeping hold of your good old penrunner user name then. Still can't drag yourself away from the website while Your're in South Africa. Anyone that has to get on here and try and justify how great it is out there just shows its a load of cr@p. Penryns well rid of you.[/p][/quote]South America not South Africa meerkats
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4:19pm Mon 28 Jul 14

meerkats says...

Peter Falmouth wrote:
meerkats wrote:
telstar1962 wrote:
Cannot believe anyone would thumbs down Helston John's post

How miserable.
there is a regular pattern of most comments on most articles getting thumbs down apart from the odd one or two which gets a lot of thumbs up . coincidence or what ?
There's no regular pattern about people you dozy mare. Except, Anyone says nice things about Helston thumbs down, anyone slags off Cllrs or Helston thumbs up, anyone sucks up to Krazyitchkatie thumbs up anyone slags off the little Helston business group thumbs up but thumbs down by Katie. People like me, thumbs up cos I vote for myself on all my work computers lol anyone slags off market, thumbs down by market people anyone slags off shops, thumbs down by shop people. I thumb down all Gills comments so does Ron because we don't like Cllrs, that's why Ron keeps deliberately spelling the name wrong, he's taking then pi**
i am not a dozy mare, why you have to keep calling people names is beyond me. i recall a while ago you called Ron a name for spelling Wallis wrong , now you say he is doing it deliberately , childish as is your reason for thumbing down Gills comments . We have good Cllrs .
[quote][p][bold]Peter Falmouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Cannot believe anyone would thumbs down Helston John's post How miserable.[/p][/quote]there is a regular pattern of most comments on most articles getting thumbs down apart from the odd one or two which gets a lot of thumbs up . coincidence or what ?[/p][/quote]There's no regular pattern about people you dozy mare. Except, Anyone says nice things about Helston thumbs down, anyone slags off Cllrs or Helston thumbs up, anyone sucks up to Krazyitchkatie thumbs up anyone slags off the little Helston business group thumbs up but thumbs down by Katie. People like me, thumbs up cos I vote for myself on all my work computers lol anyone slags off market, thumbs down by market people anyone slags off shops, thumbs down by shop people. I thumb down all Gills comments so does Ron because we don't like Cllrs, that's why Ron keeps deliberately spelling the name wrong, he's taking then pi**[/p][/quote]i am not a dozy mare, why you have to keep calling people names is beyond me. i recall a while ago you called Ron a name for spelling Wallis wrong , now you say he is doing it deliberately , childish as is your reason for thumbing down Gills comments . We have good Cllrs . meerkats
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5:00pm Mon 28 Jul 14

telstar1962 says...

krazyitchkatie wrote:
Talking of coincidences, I haven't seen anyone smoking outside Mothers for a few days... lol
I don't believe in coincidences: it's synchronocity, yeah ?
[quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: Talking of coincidences, I haven't seen anyone smoking outside Mothers for a few days... lol[/p][/quote]I don't believe in coincidences: it's synchronocity, yeah ? telstar1962
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8:09am Tue 29 Jul 14

Penrynner says...

Helston John says...
"""Can't believe anyone that moves to South America is completely happy there if they are still checking out the packet website to see what's happening here. """

The fact I still check out the local paper once in a while has no relation to my happiness or lack of. Can't see where you get that idea from.


telstar1962 says...
""" Colombia""" ?

Try a bit further south.


Peter, Falmouth
"""keeping hold of your good old penrunner user name then."""

Can't see a problem with that. But then, its something else for you lot to moan about. Get a life.
Helston John says... """Can't believe anyone that moves to South America is completely happy there if they are still checking out the packet website to see what's happening here. """ The fact I still check out the local paper once in a while has no relation to my happiness or lack of. Can't see where you get that idea from. telstar1962 says... """ Colombia""" ? Try a bit further south. Peter, Falmouth """keeping hold of your good old penrunner user name then.""" Can't see a problem with that. But then, its something else for you lot to moan about. Get a life. Penrynner
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6:35pm Wed 20 Aug 14

KernBear says...

I love the fact that I have not been on the packet website for 5 months and the comments are still descending into anarchy. Makes for good reading..
I love the fact that I have not been on the packet website for 5 months and the comments are still descending into anarchy. Makes for good reading.. KernBear
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