Packet readers support bid to open Wetherspoon pub in Helston

Packet readers support bid to open Wetherspoon pub in Helston

Packet readers support bid to open Wetherspoon pub in Helston

First published in News

A bid to bring a JD Wetherspoon pub to Helston has received universal support from Packet readers.

Last week the Helston Packet exclusively revealed that the low cost food and drink chain had found a suitable site in the town and was now in talks with the owner.

Writing on the Packet website, thepacket.co.uk, Gill Z Martin said: “This is great news for Helston, Wetherspoons establishments offer competitively priced food, are family friendly, and it may help attract more people into the town.

“It will provide another social hub for those looking for something slightly different from the existing pubs.”

Krazyitchkatie agreed: “Hopefully it will set the trend for other national shops, although I'm not sure there are any more suitable premises for them. This is gonna be one great big Wetherspoons!”

A reader known only as bobmcl62 wrote: “Just what the town needs; |it's been too long that pubs in the town charge overpriced beverages as well as food menus with little quality.”

And steve1to7 wrote: “Great news. I know it will worry some pubs and |clubs, but competition has always favoured the customer! Just the kick up the bum Helston needs, more quality less crap!”

Speculation remains over the location in question, although a few suggestions have been made by readers.

A spokesman for the company has so far refused to reveal the possible site, while talks remain ongoing.

However, he said should the development go ahead it would bring with it between 45 and 50 jobs and an investment of around £1.5 million into |the town.

There are already JD Wetherspoon pubs in many of the surrounding |towns, including Falmouth, Truro and Penzance.

Do you agree with the comments |from Packet readers? Have your say online at thepacket.co.uk or email editorial@packetseries.co.uk

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7:18am Fri 8 Aug 14

Helston John says...

I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.
I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object. Helston John
  • Score: 20

8:06am Fri 8 Aug 14

Lisa de-b says...

I'm afraid I have to disagree as I really don't think Wetherspoons will be good for the town. The other pubs, cafés and food shops will not be able to compete and it will only be a matter of time before they start closing down, leaving more empty shops in town.
It will bring more people into the town but they will only be coming to visit Wetherspoons. There just isn't the variety of shops in Helston to attract people for any other reason.
I'm afraid I have to disagree as I really don't think Wetherspoons will be good for the town. The other pubs, cafés and food shops will not be able to compete and it will only be a matter of time before they start closing down, leaving more empty shops in town. It will bring more people into the town but they will only be coming to visit Wetherspoons. There just isn't the variety of shops in Helston to attract people for any other reason. Lisa de-b
  • Score: -24

8:09am Fri 8 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Helston John wrote:
I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.
Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.[/p][/quote]Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: -1

8:19am Fri 8 Aug 14

Helston John says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.
Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.
Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.[/p][/quote]Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.[/p][/quote]Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand? Helston John
  • Score: 5

8:23am Fri 8 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Helston John wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.
Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.
Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?
No I meant what grounds do you think others may find to object.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.[/p][/quote]Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.[/p][/quote]Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?[/p][/quote]No I meant what grounds do you think others may find to object. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 1

8:27am Fri 8 Aug 14

Helston John says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.
Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.
Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?
No I meant what grounds do you think others may find to object.
Ok Ron, the coffee bean does food, cooked meals, breakfasts, roast dinners etc like Wetherspoons, so they could lose trade, don't you think they would object? And as for the Cllrs, they objected to the new chip shop at the top of town.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.[/p][/quote]Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.[/p][/quote]Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?[/p][/quote]No I meant what grounds do you think others may find to object.[/p][/quote]Ok Ron, the coffee bean does food, cooked meals, breakfasts, roast dinners etc like Wetherspoons, so they could lose trade, don't you think they would object? And as for the Cllrs, they objected to the new chip shop at the top of town. Helston John
  • Score: 10

8:31am Fri 8 Aug 14

Helston John says...

Lisa de-b wrote:
I'm afraid I have to disagree as I really don't think Wetherspoons will be good for the town. The other pubs, cafés and food shops will not be able to compete and it will only be a matter of time before they start closing down, leaving more empty shops in town.
It will bring more people into the town but they will only be coming to visit Wetherspoons. There just isn't the variety of shops in Helston to attract people for any other reason.
Of course people come into Helston for other shops otherwise it wouldn't be trading would it, it was heaving with tourists the other day, they come to the museum the park the cafes the gift shops. Theyre not just coming for Wetherspoons they've got the, in most towns.
[quote][p][bold]Lisa de-b[/bold] wrote: I'm afraid I have to disagree as I really don't think Wetherspoons will be good for the town. The other pubs, cafés and food shops will not be able to compete and it will only be a matter of time before they start closing down, leaving more empty shops in town. It will bring more people into the town but they will only be coming to visit Wetherspoons. There just isn't the variety of shops in Helston to attract people for any other reason.[/p][/quote]Of course people come into Helston for other shops otherwise it wouldn't be trading would it, it was heaving with tourists the other day, they come to the museum the park the cafes the gift shops. Theyre not just coming for Wetherspoons they've got the, in most towns. Helston John
  • Score: 6

8:53am Fri 8 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

The article asked 'Do you agree with Packet readers comments ?'

Yes,and fair competition is needed.

But because of the nature and size of existing shops,the much needed larger chains cannot move to Helston,therefore not helping the Town Centre cause
The article asked 'Do you agree with Packet readers comments ?' Yes,and fair competition is needed. But because of the nature and size of existing shops,the much needed larger chains cannot move to Helston,therefore not helping the Town Centre cause telstar1962
  • Score: 2

9:11am Fri 8 Aug 14

Lisa de-b says...

You said it was heaving with tourists, that's for maybe 7 weeks of the year. If it was heaving with locals that would be a lot better, but unfortunately for those that live here the choice of shops in Helston really isn't varied.
There will be a lot of shops that object to Wetherspoons; Coffee Bean, Ruth's, Park Cafe, Mothers and I would think it could also take some trade away from the bakery's too.
You said it was heaving with tourists, that's for maybe 7 weeks of the year. If it was heaving with locals that would be a lot better, but unfortunately for those that live here the choice of shops in Helston really isn't varied. There will be a lot of shops that object to Wetherspoons; Coffee Bean, Ruth's, Park Cafe, Mothers and I would think it could also take some trade away from the bakery's too. Lisa de-b
  • Score: -8

9:21am Fri 8 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Helston John wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.
Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.
Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?
No I meant what grounds do you think others may find to object.
Ok Ron, the coffee bean does food, cooked meals, breakfasts, roast dinners etc like Wetherspoons, so they could lose trade, don't you think they would object? And as for the Cllrs, they objected to the new chip shop at the top of town.
I agree to an extent. Other towns with similar population have high street chains just smaller versions.
Helstons problem is poor footfall. If the footfall there the shops will come and Witherspoons will certainly help here.
Increasing free on street parking would quickly increase footfall but it seems to be the case in Helston of endless talk with and ever increasing list of paid official, groups and committees.
I do think poundland would do well in Helston and surprised they are not as far as I know seeking premises.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.[/p][/quote]Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.[/p][/quote]Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?[/p][/quote]No I meant what grounds do you think others may find to object.[/p][/quote]Ok Ron, the coffee bean does food, cooked meals, breakfasts, roast dinners etc like Wetherspoons, so they could lose trade, don't you think they would object? And as for the Cllrs, they objected to the new chip shop at the top of town.[/p][/quote]I agree to an extent. Other towns with similar population have high street chains just smaller versions. Helstons problem is poor footfall. If the footfall there the shops will come and Witherspoons will certainly help here. Increasing free on street parking would quickly increase footfall but it seems to be the case in Helston of endless talk with and ever increasing list of paid official, groups and committees. I do think poundland would do well in Helston and surprised they are not as far as I know seeking premises. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 5

9:23am Fri 8 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.
Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.
Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?
No I meant what grounds do you think others may find to object.
Ok Ron, the coffee bean does food, cooked meals, breakfasts, roast dinners etc like Wetherspoons, so they could lose trade, don't you think they would object? And as for the Cllrs, they objected to the new chip shop at the top of town.
I agree to an extent. Other towns with similar population have high street chains just smaller versions.
Helstons problem is poor footfall. If the footfall there the shops will come and Witherspoons will certainly help here.
Increasing free on street parking would quickly increase footfall but it seems to be the case in Helston of endless talk with and ever increasing list of paid official, groups and committees.
I do think poundland would do well in Helston and surprised they are not as far as I know seeking premises.
Sorry Helston John I have quoted you by mistake. Phone problem again.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.[/p][/quote]Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.[/p][/quote]Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?[/p][/quote]No I meant what grounds do you think others may find to object.[/p][/quote]Ok Ron, the coffee bean does food, cooked meals, breakfasts, roast dinners etc like Wetherspoons, so they could lose trade, don't you think they would object? And as for the Cllrs, they objected to the new chip shop at the top of town.[/p][/quote]I agree to an extent. Other towns with similar population have high street chains just smaller versions. Helstons problem is poor footfall. If the footfall there the shops will come and Witherspoons will certainly help here. Increasing free on street parking would quickly increase footfall but it seems to be the case in Helston of endless talk with and ever increasing list of paid official, groups and committees. I do think poundland would do well in Helston and surprised they are not as far as I know seeking premises.[/p][/quote]Sorry Helston John I have quoted you by mistake. Phone problem again. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 1

9:27am Fri 8 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

I had meant to quote Telstar 1962 comment I apologise.
I had meant to quote Telstar 1962 comment I apologise. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 3

9:34am Fri 8 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Lisa de-b wrote:
You said it was heaving with tourists, that's for maybe 7 weeks of the year. If it was heaving with locals that would be a lot better, but unfortunately for those that live here the choice of shops in Helston really isn't varied.
There will be a lot of shops that object to Wetherspoons; Coffee Bean, Ruth's, Park Cafe, Mothers and I would think it could also take some trade away from the bakery's too.
Competition is not grounds for objection.
It will be hard to find a reason to object to a plan to invest much needed money and job creation into the town.
[quote][p][bold]Lisa de-b[/bold] wrote: You said it was heaving with tourists, that's for maybe 7 weeks of the year. If it was heaving with locals that would be a lot better, but unfortunately for those that live here the choice of shops in Helston really isn't varied. There will be a lot of shops that object to Wetherspoons; Coffee Bean, Ruth's, Park Cafe, Mothers and I would think it could also take some trade away from the bakery's too.[/p][/quote]Competition is not grounds for objection. It will be hard to find a reason to object to a plan to invest much needed money and job creation into the town. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 3

9:40am Fri 8 Aug 14

Tony Dean says...

A Wetherspoons in Helston would mean my bus pass and my 50pence a pint off vouchers could at last be put to good use.
A Wetherspoons in Helston would mean my bus pass and my 50pence a pint off vouchers could at last be put to good use. Tony Dean
  • Score: 7

9:45am Fri 8 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Helston John wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
ronedgcumbe wrote:
Helston John wrote:
I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.
Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.
Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?
No I meant what grounds do you think others may find to object.
Ok Ron, the coffee bean does food, cooked meals, breakfasts, roast dinners etc like Wetherspoons, so they could lose trade, don't you think they would object? And as for the Cllrs, they objected to the new chip shop at the top of town.
I think the objection to the new chip shops was due to parking issues and the original application was withdrawn and a new one submitted.
It does a nice piece of fish and I would go more often if it was not so busy.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: I agree, and Gill Z Martin usually does talk sense and seems to know what's good for Helston except when she says the Cllrs are good. And Wetherspoons wanting to come to Helston is only half the battle, because the town council need to agree to this and Cornwall Cllrs need to give the planning permission for it. And as Cornwall council are running a dictatorship and our three Cornwall Cllrs are pathetic we'll have to see if we actually get the Wetherspoons. I expect the coffee bean will object.[/p][/quote]Would be interested too know what grounds you think any objection would Be for as I can't think of any.[/p][/quote]Do I sound like I object Ron? What part of "I agree" don't you quite understand?[/p][/quote]No I meant what grounds do you think others may find to object.[/p][/quote]Ok Ron, the coffee bean does food, cooked meals, breakfasts, roast dinners etc like Wetherspoons, so they could lose trade, don't you think they would object? And as for the Cllrs, they objected to the new chip shop at the top of town.[/p][/quote]I think the objection to the new chip shops was due to parking issues and the original application was withdrawn and a new one submitted. It does a nice piece of fish and I would go more often if it was not so busy. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 2

9:48am Fri 8 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

To be honest, Mothers and Coffee Bean are not in the same league as Wetherspoon, who are a National chain, licensed pub, who do cheap food all day ,from 7am to 10pm, and most of their meals advise calorie and/or fat content

These small businesses should welcome the competition, they shouldn't whinge because if they are good enough their turnover will increase because of the higher footfall Wetherspoon will bring
To be honest, Mothers and Coffee Bean are not in the same league as Wetherspoon, who are a National chain, licensed pub, who do cheap food all day ,from 7am to 10pm, and most of their meals advise calorie and/or fat content These small businesses should welcome the competition, they shouldn't whinge because if they are good enough their turnover will increase because of the higher footfall Wetherspoon will bring telstar1962
  • Score: 3

9:51am Fri 8 Aug 14

Lisa de-b says...

Of course competition will be grounds for objection if you are the owner of a cafe or pub and you believe it will lose you money. It's their livelihood after all.
We did have a small chain shop of Dorothy Perkins and New Look but they did not last, why would others want to come in?
I do agree about Poundland though.
Of course competition will be grounds for objection if you are the owner of a cafe or pub and you believe it will lose you money. It's their livelihood after all. We did have a small chain shop of Dorothy Perkins and New Look but they did not last, why would others want to come in? I do agree about Poundland though. Lisa de-b
  • Score: -10

10:11am Fri 8 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Lisa de-b wrote:
Of course competition will be grounds for objection if you are the owner of a cafe or pub and you believe it will lose you money. It's their livelihood after all.
We did have a small chain shop of Dorothy Perkins and New Look but they did not last, why would others want to come in?
I do agree about Poundland though.
Sorry your mistaken. Current businesses would need to compete or differentiate.
Larger premise have been lost other the years but could possibly come back. Dingles for instance once own a very large shop in message street.
[quote][p][bold]Lisa de-b[/bold] wrote: Of course competition will be grounds for objection if you are the owner of a cafe or pub and you believe it will lose you money. It's their livelihood after all. We did have a small chain shop of Dorothy Perkins and New Look but they did not last, why would others want to come in? I do agree about Poundland though.[/p][/quote]Sorry your mistaken. Current businesses would need to compete or differentiate. Larger premise have been lost other the years but could possibly come back. Dingles for instance once own a very large shop in message street. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 0

10:12am Fri 8 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Lisa de-b wrote:
Of course competition will be grounds for objection if you are the owner of a cafe or pub and you believe it will lose you money. It's their livelihood after all.
We did have a small chain shop of Dorothy Perkins and New Look but they did not last, why would others want to come in?
I do agree about Poundland though.
Sorry your mistaken. Current businesses would need to compete or differentiate.
Larger premise have been lost other the years but could possibly come back. Dingles for instance once own a very large shop in message street.
Meneage street.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lisa de-b[/bold] wrote: Of course competition will be grounds for objection if you are the owner of a cafe or pub and you believe it will lose you money. It's their livelihood after all. We did have a small chain shop of Dorothy Perkins and New Look but they did not last, why would others want to come in? I do agree about Poundland though.[/p][/quote]Sorry your mistaken. Current businesses would need to compete or differentiate. Larger premise have been lost other the years but could possibly come back. Dingles for instance once own a very large shop in message street.[/p][/quote]Meneage street. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 0

11:50am Fri 8 Aug 14

butcherjohns says...

sorry think your all looking at it through beer goggles we are about to lose 60ft of shop frontage that will never com back the pub will be at its best at night when the shops are closed we need shops not pubs there is no footfall there are not hundreds of tourists I now this because ive just had to close my shop because of lack of people in town
sorry think your all looking at it through beer goggles we are about to lose 60ft of shop frontage that will never com back the pub will be at its best at night when the shops are closed we need shops not pubs there is no footfall there are not hundreds of tourists I now this because ive just had to close my shop because of lack of people in town butcherjohns
  • Score: -7

5:01pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Helston John says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
I had meant to quote Telstar 1962 comment I apologise.
That's alright Ron. You were right about one thing Ron, you said there would be negativity about Wetherspoons. It's the people that don't like competition. Some existing cafes should pay ,ore attention to customer service and tell their staff how to smile.

If the butchers closed its because the town isn't big enough to have two and its the supermarkets competition, doesn't mean other shops won't do well.

Lisa de-b you can moan about competition all you like but at the end of the day planning rules don't take competition into consideration at all.
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: I had meant to quote Telstar 1962 comment I apologise.[/p][/quote]That's alright Ron. You were right about one thing Ron, you said there would be negativity about Wetherspoons. It's the people that don't like competition. Some existing cafes should pay ,ore attention to customer service and tell their staff how to smile. If the butchers closed its because the town isn't big enough to have two and its the supermarkets competition, doesn't mean other shops won't do well. Lisa de-b you can moan about competition all you like but at the end of the day planning rules don't take competition into consideration at all. Helston John
  • Score: 4

8:28pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

I think Wetherspoons will be a good addition for a town the size of Helston, although I believe it only natural that other establishments may be concerned about the competition. However, I think many people have their own favourite choice of venue in which to eat or drink in Helston and will still patronise those places. For example, if I wanted a weekday roast dinner whilst shopping in Helston I would still choose the Coffee Bean.
I think Wetherspoons will be a good addition for a town the size of Helston, although I believe it only natural that other establishments may be concerned about the competition. However, I think many people have their own favourite choice of venue in which to eat or drink in Helston and will still patronise those places. For example, if I wanted a weekday roast dinner whilst shopping in Helston I would still choose the Coffee Bean. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 4

6:38am Sat 9 Aug 14

Helston John says...

Lisa de-b wrote:
You said it was heaving with tourists, that's for maybe 7 weeks of the year. If it was heaving with locals that would be a lot better, but unfortunately for those that live here the choice of shops in Helston really isn't varied.
There will be a lot of shops that object to Wetherspoons; Coffee Bean, Ruth's, Park Cafe, Mothers and I would think it could also take some trade away from the bakery's too.
There are still plenty of people shop in Helston all year round, if there wasnt all those shops wouldn't be there, and some have been there for years. ALL towns and villages have empty shops, that's just the current national economy.
[quote][p][bold]Lisa de-b[/bold] wrote: You said it was heaving with tourists, that's for maybe 7 weeks of the year. If it was heaving with locals that would be a lot better, but unfortunately for those that live here the choice of shops in Helston really isn't varied. There will be a lot of shops that object to Wetherspoons; Coffee Bean, Ruth's, Park Cafe, Mothers and I would think it could also take some trade away from the bakery's too.[/p][/quote]There are still plenty of people shop in Helston all year round, if there wasnt all those shops wouldn't be there, and some have been there for years. ALL towns and villages have empty shops, that's just the current national economy. Helston John
  • Score: 3

10:07am Sat 9 Aug 14

Dub_dan says...

Most of the pubs in Helston are lease hold. The landlord's that own these pubs force their tenants to buy their stock from the landlords, the price that the landlords charge for their stock is greatly over priced and they get away with this crime because the tenant is locked into a long term contract. For example x1 keg of Carlsberg from a landlord is roughly £120+ VAT the exact same keg from Jollys drinks or Bookers will cost around £80+ if a tenant is caught purchasing from any suppliers other than the landlord, the landlord is well within their rights to charge a penalty fee. These penalty fees can be up to £10k. So trust me there are no pubs in Helston currently overcharging. Wetherspoons buy cheap food and dont even employ a chef, they also purchased beer etc towards the end of its shelf life, thats why its so cheap. Where is the value for momey? People spending momey at these places are getting ripped off, they just cant see it
I urge the people of Helston to get behind your local people running the current group local pubs and stop the farse of a business that is Wetherspoons from opening in Helston. If they do open we will be left with more businesses boarded up and ultimately less choice. Next time your in town for a drink, ask the management of the pub your drinking in what they think.
Most of the pubs in Helston are lease hold. The landlord's that own these pubs force their tenants to buy their stock from the landlords, the price that the landlords charge for their stock is greatly over priced and they get away with this crime because the tenant is locked into a long term contract. For example x1 keg of Carlsberg from a landlord is roughly £120+ VAT the exact same keg from Jollys drinks or Bookers will cost around £80+ if a tenant is caught purchasing from any suppliers other than the landlord, the landlord is well within their rights to charge a penalty fee. These penalty fees can be up to £10k. So trust me there are no pubs in Helston currently overcharging. Wetherspoons buy cheap food and dont even employ a chef, they also purchased beer etc towards the end of its shelf life, thats why its so cheap. Where is the value for momey? People spending momey at these places are getting ripped off, they just cant see it I urge the people of Helston to get behind your local people running the current group local pubs and stop the farse of a business that is Wetherspoons from opening in Helston. If they do open we will be left with more businesses boarded up and ultimately less choice. Next time your in town for a drink, ask the management of the pub your drinking in what they think. Dub_dan
  • Score: -7

11:02am Sat 9 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Yesterday I enjoy a very nice fishs and chips served with a nice pint of Guinness by some friendly smelling staff for under six quid. Strangely not feeling ripped off.
Never had a bad pint at spoons, they seem to handle there beer very well.
Apart from the star Inn in Penzance I have not seen other pubs closing in nearby town because of spoons.
In Camborne for instance the tyack hotel seem very popular
and the chippy across the road seems well supported. I think the competition has been good for the town.
Yesterday I enjoy a very nice fishs and chips served with a nice pint of Guinness by some friendly smelling staff for under six quid. Strangely not feeling ripped off. Never had a bad pint at spoons, they seem to handle there beer very well. Apart from the star Inn in Penzance I have not seen other pubs closing in nearby town because of spoons. In Camborne for instance the tyack hotel seem very popular and the chippy across the road seems well supported. I think the competition has been good for the town. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 2

11:25am Sat 9 Aug 14

Dub_dan says...

The point im making is some of the current pubs in Helston dont have the choice to react. The mix of leasehold vs freehold might be different in Truro and penzance etc. There will 100% be pub closures in Helston if Wetherspoons open. The brewerys/landlords that own the leaseholds in Helston won't reduce their cost prices to the tenants/ management running their pubs just because a Wetherspoons opens. They will allow these poor people to sink financially and the next poor sucker will take it on and the cycle will continue.
The point im making is some of the current pubs in Helston dont have the choice to react. The mix of leasehold vs freehold might be different in Truro and penzance etc. There will 100% be pub closures in Helston if Wetherspoons open. The brewerys/landlords that own the leaseholds in Helston won't reduce their cost prices to the tenants/ management running their pubs just because a Wetherspoons opens. They will allow these poor people to sink financially and the next poor sucker will take it on and the cycle will continue. Dub_dan
  • Score: -4

11:30am Sat 9 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Oh dear whats the phone done now. I assure you I have not been sniffing the Witherspoon staff. I did check before I posted as it had also changed Camborne to Cambodia.
Oh dear whats the phone done now. I assure you I have not been sniffing the Witherspoon staff. I did check before I posted as it had also changed Camborne to Cambodia. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 1

11:47am Sat 9 Aug 14

ronedgcumbe says...

Dub_dan wrote:
The point im making is some of the current pubs in Helston dont have the choice to react. The mix of leasehold vs freehold might be different in Truro and penzance etc. There will 100% be pub closures in Helston if Wetherspoons open. The brewerys/landlords that own the leaseholds in Helston won't reduce their cost prices to the tenants/ management running their pubs just because a Wetherspoons opens. They will allow these poor people to sink financially and the next poor sucker will take it on and the cycle will continue.
So you are saying it's ok for Helston drinkers to be ripped off by the breweries. I think it's even more important that some competition is established now.
[quote][p][bold]Dub_dan[/bold] wrote: The point im making is some of the current pubs in Helston dont have the choice to react. The mix of leasehold vs freehold might be different in Truro and penzance etc. There will 100% be pub closures in Helston if Wetherspoons open. The brewerys/landlords that own the leaseholds in Helston won't reduce their cost prices to the tenants/ management running their pubs just because a Wetherspoons opens. They will allow these poor people to sink financially and the next poor sucker will take it on and the cycle will continue.[/p][/quote]So you are saying it's ok for Helston drinkers to be ripped off by the breweries. I think it's even more important that some competition is established now. ronedgcumbe
  • Score: 2

12:08pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Dub_dan says...

They are trying to make a living
They are trying to make a living Dub_dan
  • Score: -5

1:06pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Helston John says...

Dub_dan wrote:
They are trying to make a living
You can't expect the hard up public in these economic times to pay extra for pub stuff just to suit the people running the pubs, and if the managers/tenants of the pubs are that hard done by, why do they still seem to manage to run expensive cars and have good clothes etc. They've had it too easy in Helston for too long, bring on the competition, and as for the coffee bean, they should try doing breakfast at breakfast time not mid morning and stop shutting in the afternoon early, I've been goin to the may tree for early breakfast. Bring on Wetherspoons in the town.
[quote][p][bold]Dub_dan[/bold] wrote: They are trying to make a living[/p][/quote]You can't expect the hard up public in these economic times to pay extra for pub stuff just to suit the people running the pubs, and if the managers/tenants of the pubs are that hard done by, why do they still seem to manage to run expensive cars and have good clothes etc. They've had it too easy in Helston for too long, bring on the competition, and as for the coffee bean, they should try doing breakfast at breakfast time not mid morning and stop shutting in the afternoon early, I've been goin to the may tree for early breakfast. Bring on Wetherspoons in the town. Helston John
  • Score: 3

1:15pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Helston John says...

It didn't seem to bother the other pubs when they opened up one after the other in Helston Years ago, did they bother about the trade of the Blue Anchor or anywhere else. Now just because we're getting one that favours the customers they don't like it. What other pub really welcomes small children in the evening?
It didn't seem to bother the other pubs when they opened up one after the other in Helston Years ago, did they bother about the trade of the Blue Anchor or anywhere else. Now just because we're getting one that favours the customers they don't like it. What other pub really welcomes small children in the evening? Helston John
  • Score: 5

2:07pm Sat 9 Aug 14

butcherjohns says...

bit unfair to the other pubs don't you think most of them opened up 100 yrs ago when there was still trade for them all the point is do we need to lose a large retail space just so another pub can come to town shooters has been on the market for yrs so they aint been that keen to come in people don't go to other towns just because there is a wetherspoons there do they £5 on petrol &£3 on parking just to save £4 on the beer
bit unfair to the other pubs don't you think most of them opened up 100 yrs ago when there was still trade for them all the point is do we need to lose a large retail space just so another pub can come to town shooters has been on the market for yrs so they aint been that keen to come in people don't go to other towns just because there is a wetherspoons there do they £5 on petrol &£3 on parking just to save £4 on the beer butcherjohns
  • Score: -1

2:12pm Sat 9 Aug 14

butcherjohns says...

butcherjohns wrote:
bit unfair to the other pubs don't you think most of them opened up 100 yrs ago when there was still trade for them all the point is do we need to lose a large retail space just so another pub can come to town shooters has been on the market for yrs so they aint been that keen to come in people don't go to other towns just because there is a wetherspoons there do they £5 on petrol &£3 on parking just to save £4 on the beer
and just for the record i did not own a butchers shop that is just what im trained to do from the days when helston had 6 butchers in the main streets
[quote][p][bold]butcherjohns[/bold] wrote: bit unfair to the other pubs don't you think most of them opened up 100 yrs ago when there was still trade for them all the point is do we need to lose a large retail space just so another pub can come to town shooters has been on the market for yrs so they aint been that keen to come in people don't go to other towns just because there is a wetherspoons there do they £5 on petrol &£3 on parking just to save £4 on the beer[/p][/quote]and just for the record i did not own a butchers shop that is just what im trained to do from the days when helston had 6 butchers in the main streets butcherjohns
  • Score: -3

3:20pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Helston John says...

butcherjohns wrote:
butcherjohns wrote:
bit unfair to the other pubs don't you think most of them opened up 100 yrs ago when there was still trade for them all the point is do we need to lose a large retail space just so another pub can come to town shooters has been on the market for yrs so they aint been that keen to come in people don't go to other towns just because there is a wetherspoons there do they £5 on petrol &£3 on parking just to save £4 on the beer
and just for the record i did not own a butchers shop that is just what im trained to do from the days when helston had 6 butchers in the main streets
One of your previous posts said "I've just had to close my shop because of the lack of people in town" maybe it was your prices?
[quote][p][bold]butcherjohns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butcherjohns[/bold] wrote: bit unfair to the other pubs don't you think most of them opened up 100 yrs ago when there was still trade for them all the point is do we need to lose a large retail space just so another pub can come to town shooters has been on the market for yrs so they aint been that keen to come in people don't go to other towns just because there is a wetherspoons there do they £5 on petrol &£3 on parking just to save £4 on the beer[/p][/quote]and just for the record i did not own a butchers shop that is just what im trained to do from the days when helston had 6 butchers in the main streets[/p][/quote]One of your previous posts said "I've just had to close my shop because of the lack of people in town" maybe it was your prices? Helston John
  • Score: 1

3:30pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Helston John says...

Helston John wrote:
butcherjohns wrote:
butcherjohns wrote:
bit unfair to the other pubs don't you think most of them opened up 100 yrs ago when there was still trade for them all the point is do we need to lose a large retail space just so another pub can come to town shooters has been on the market for yrs so they aint been that keen to come in people don't go to other towns just because there is a wetherspoons there do they £5 on petrol &£3 on parking just to save £4 on the beer
and just for the record i did not own a butchers shop that is just what im trained to do from the days when helston had 6 butchers in the main streets
One of your previous posts said "I've just had to close my shop because of the lack of people in town" maybe it was your prices?
The Penrose road Art place claimed it would attract more people into town and people come in for the other shops so Wetherspoons could keep them in town longer. Do we need The Bell, the Rodney, the Red Lion, The Angel, The Seven Stars, Rileys, etc, Its obvious the Blue Anchor has an attraction and Riley's because they offer something different, but I think the Red Lion looks a dump, one of the others doesn't even do food and for families, none of the, really want small children in the evenings.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butcherjohns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]butcherjohns[/bold] wrote: bit unfair to the other pubs don't you think most of them opened up 100 yrs ago when there was still trade for them all the point is do we need to lose a large retail space just so another pub can come to town shooters has been on the market for yrs so they aint been that keen to come in people don't go to other towns just because there is a wetherspoons there do they £5 on petrol &£3 on parking just to save £4 on the beer[/p][/quote]and just for the record i did not own a butchers shop that is just what im trained to do from the days when helston had 6 butchers in the main streets[/p][/quote]One of your previous posts said "I've just had to close my shop because of the lack of people in town" maybe it was your prices?[/p][/quote]The Penrose road Art place claimed it would attract more people into town and people come in for the other shops so Wetherspoons could keep them in town longer. Do we need The Bell, the Rodney, the Red Lion, The Angel, The Seven Stars, Rileys, etc, Its obvious the Blue Anchor has an attraction and Riley's because they offer something different, but I think the Red Lion looks a dump, one of the others doesn't even do food and for families, none of the, really want small children in the evenings. Helston John
  • Score: 1

4:15pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

butcherjohns wrote:
bit unfair to the other pubs don't you think most of them opened up 100 yrs ago when there was still trade for them all the point is do we need to lose a large retail space just so another pub can come to town shooters has been on the market for yrs so they aint been that keen to come in people don't go to other towns just because there is a wetherspoons there do they £5 on petrol &£3 on parking just to save £4 on the beer
Chymder House is up for sale, hypothetically, if Wetherspoons were to convert that, and not use a large retail premises such as Oliver's, it would still not guarantee Helston attracting any chain stores or new retail stores because Olivers, shooters, Thurleys etc have been on the market some time now, and no chain stores or other large retailers appear to have shown an interest in investing in these properties.
[quote][p][bold]butcherjohns[/bold] wrote: bit unfair to the other pubs don't you think most of them opened up 100 yrs ago when there was still trade for them all the point is do we need to lose a large retail space just so another pub can come to town shooters has been on the market for yrs so they aint been that keen to come in people don't go to other towns just because there is a wetherspoons there do they £5 on petrol &£3 on parking just to save £4 on the beer[/p][/quote]Chymder House is up for sale, hypothetically, if Wetherspoons were to convert that, and not use a large retail premises such as Oliver's, it would still not guarantee Helston attracting any chain stores or new retail stores because Olivers, shooters, Thurleys etc have been on the market some time now, and no chain stores or other large retailers appear to have shown an interest in investing in these properties. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 6

1:41pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Helston John says...

Dub_dan wrote:
They are trying to make a living
I see no one has said which Helston pub really welcomes small children in the evening if the parents want a meal. They didn't want me with my young son in them.
[quote][p][bold]Dub_dan[/bold] wrote: They are trying to make a living[/p][/quote]I see no one has said which Helston pub really welcomes small children in the evening if the parents want a meal. They didn't want me with my young son in them. Helston John
  • Score: 1

3:30pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Lev Repel says...

Helston John wrote:
Dub_dan wrote:
They are trying to make a living
I see no one has said which Helston pub really welcomes small children in the evening if the parents want a meal. They didn't want me with my young son in them.
Perhaps your young son wasn't the one they objected to.

Don't see any pubs closing down in Camborne since their Wetherspoons opened.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dub_dan[/bold] wrote: They are trying to make a living[/p][/quote]I see no one has said which Helston pub really welcomes small children in the evening if the parents want a meal. They didn't want me with my young son in them.[/p][/quote]Perhaps your young son wasn't the one they objected to. Don't see any pubs closing down in Camborne since their Wetherspoons opened. Lev Repel
  • Score: 5

4:34pm Thu 14 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

Tesco Fuel in Helston is permanently higher priced than Sainsbury Fuel in Helston, but there are permanent queues for Fuel at Tesco. How odd.

Same with pubs, restaurants, beer, food.

A place in Helston Town where you can take the family for a meal(children up to 8 or 9pm) , Dad can have a couple of pints at a reasonable cost, parking is free, and Mum can drive home. Ideal.

Where else do you get that in Town ?
Tesco Fuel in Helston is permanently higher priced than Sainsbury Fuel in Helston, but there are permanent queues for Fuel at Tesco. How odd. Same with pubs, restaurants, beer, food. A place in Helston Town where you can take the family for a meal(children up to 8 or 9pm) , Dad can have a couple of pints at a reasonable cost, parking is free, and Mum can drive home. Ideal. Where else do you get that in Town ? telstar1962
  • Score: 2

5:07pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

telstar1962 wrote:
Tesco Fuel in Helston is permanently higher priced than Sainsbury Fuel in Helston, but there are permanent queues for Fuel at Tesco. How odd.

Same with pubs, restaurants, beer, food.

A place in Helston Town where you can take the family for a meal(children up to 8 or 9pm) , Dad can have a couple of pints at a reasonable cost, parking is free, and Mum can drive home. Ideal.

Where else do you get that in Town ?
Lol, I like the way the dad gets to drink and the mum gets to drive, the appeals to my sense of humour.
I buy my fuel always at Fords in Helston, Tesco is probably the first garage the holiday makers come to on the way in to Helston on arrival.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Tesco Fuel in Helston is permanently higher priced than Sainsbury Fuel in Helston, but there are permanent queues for Fuel at Tesco. How odd. Same with pubs, restaurants, beer, food. A place in Helston Town where you can take the family for a meal(children up to 8 or 9pm) , Dad can have a couple of pints at a reasonable cost, parking is free, and Mum can drive home. Ideal. Where else do you get that in Town ?[/p][/quote]Lol, I like the way the dad gets to drink and the mum gets to drive, the appeals to my sense of humour. I buy my fuel always at Fords in Helston, Tesco is probably the first garage the holiday makers come to on the way in to Helston on arrival. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

10:39pm Thu 14 Aug 14

butcherjohns says...

well if you came in to my shop you would now it was not the prices as I said now bothers to shop in town we don't have enough shops to draw them in getting bigger ones should be a priority but I read this week council have gone and got more no parking cones what is the town manager doing about trying to get retail investment it seems some of you are only interested in cheap bear and the answer to hildren and pub the blue but is I not law for all that they have to leave by 9pm
well if you came in to my shop you would now it was not the prices as I said now bothers to shop in town we don't have enough shops to draw them in getting bigger ones should be a priority but I read this week council have gone and got more no parking cones what is the town manager doing about trying to get retail investment it seems some of you are only interested in cheap bear and the answer to hildren and pub the blue but is I not law for all that they have to leave by 9pm butcherjohns
  • Score: 1

7:08am Fri 15 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

butcherjohns wrote:
well if you came in to my shop you would now it was not the prices as I said now bothers to shop in town we don't have enough shops to draw them in getting bigger ones should be a priority but I read this week council have gone and got more no parking cones what is the town manager doing about trying to get retail investment it seems some of you are only interested in cheap bear and the answer to hildren and pub the blue but is I not law for all that they have to leave by 9pm
I have always shopped in the town regularly as do several other people from outlying villages. I like the small local independent shops and cafes, the museum the park and the guildhall market and I will continue to support Helston town centre. I very rarely shop in large supermarkets, only on occasions for something if I cannot get it in the town.
Oliver's was up for sale for quite some time, so I think if any large stores were interested in coming to Helston then they had plenty of time to purchase Oliver's but unfortunately obviously chose not to do so.
[quote][p][bold]butcherjohns[/bold] wrote: well if you came in to my shop you would now it was not the prices as I said now bothers to shop in town we don't have enough shops to draw them in getting bigger ones should be a priority but I read this week council have gone and got more no parking cones what is the town manager doing about trying to get retail investment it seems some of you are only interested in cheap bear and the answer to hildren and pub the blue but is I not law for all that they have to leave by 9pm[/p][/quote]I have always shopped in the town regularly as do several other people from outlying villages. I like the small local independent shops and cafes, the museum the park and the guildhall market and I will continue to support Helston town centre. I very rarely shop in large supermarkets, only on occasions for something if I cannot get it in the town. Oliver's was up for sale for quite some time, so I think if any large stores were interested in coming to Helston then they had plenty of time to purchase Oliver's but unfortunately obviously chose not to do so. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

9:25am Fri 15 Aug 14

butcherjohns says...

I was not getting at you gill it was to the one who calls himself helston j ohn he does not have a clue about why some one has to close yet feels he has a god given right to slate them and insult whoever he pleases when all he seems interested in is alcohol praps we need to open A A its a crying shame I was born in the town quite a few yrs ago now and ive had to watch it slowly sink into the quadmire I don't understand how other towns can encourage trade like primart ,matalan b/q etc they would have the whole of the lizard in their grasp yet the powers that be in the town just sit and argue
I was not getting at you gill it was to the one who calls himself helston j ohn he does not have a clue about why some one has to close yet feels he has a god given right to slate them and insult whoever he pleases when all he seems interested in is alcohol praps we need to open A A its a crying shame I was born in the town quite a few yrs ago now and ive had to watch it slowly sink into the quadmire I don't understand how other towns can encourage trade like primart ,matalan b/q etc they would have the whole of the lizard in their grasp yet the powers that be in the town just sit and argue butcherjohns
  • Score: 1

9:21am Sun 31 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

butcherjohns wrote:
I was not getting at you gill it was to the one who calls himself helston j ohn he does not have a clue about why some one has to close yet feels he has a god given right to slate them and insult whoever he pleases when all he seems interested in is alcohol praps we need to open A A its a crying shame I was born in the town quite a few yrs ago now and ive had to watch it slowly sink into the quadmire I don't understand how other towns can encourage trade like primart ,matalan b/q etc they would have the whole of the lizard in their grasp yet the powers that be in the town just sit and argue
Thank you.
[quote][p][bold]butcherjohns[/bold] wrote: I was not getting at you gill it was to the one who calls himself helston j ohn he does not have a clue about why some one has to close yet feels he has a god given right to slate them and insult whoever he pleases when all he seems interested in is alcohol praps we need to open A A its a crying shame I was born in the town quite a few yrs ago now and ive had to watch it slowly sink into the quadmire I don't understand how other towns can encourage trade like primart ,matalan b/q etc they would have the whole of the lizard in their grasp yet the powers that be in the town just sit and argue[/p][/quote]Thank you. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 0

9:21am Sun 31 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

butcherjohns wrote:
I was not getting at you gill it was to the one who calls himself helston j ohn he does not have a clue about why some one has to close yet feels he has a god given right to slate them and insult whoever he pleases when all he seems interested in is alcohol praps we need to open A A its a crying shame I was born in the town quite a few yrs ago now and ive had to watch it slowly sink into the quadmire I don't understand how other towns can encourage trade like primart ,matalan b/q etc they would have the whole of the lizard in their grasp yet the powers that be in the town just sit and argue
Thank you.
[quote][p][bold]butcherjohns[/bold] wrote: I was not getting at you gill it was to the one who calls himself helston j ohn he does not have a clue about why some one has to close yet feels he has a god given right to slate them and insult whoever he pleases when all he seems interested in is alcohol praps we need to open A A its a crying shame I was born in the town quite a few yrs ago now and ive had to watch it slowly sink into the quadmire I don't understand how other towns can encourage trade like primart ,matalan b/q etc they would have the whole of the lizard in their grasp yet the powers that be in the town just sit and argue[/p][/quote]Thank you. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 0

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