Vandals drain Helston boating lake

Vandals drain Helston boating lake

Vandals drain Helston boating lake

First published in News

Visitors to Coronation Park were in for a surprise over the weekend when they visited the Helston beauty spot only to find the lake drained of water.

This unusual sight was the result of vandals kicking through the wooden sluice gate last Thursday, leading to the water rapidly vanishing over the course of the night.

When John Leech, who operates the Lakeside Cafe and boating lake, arrived at 8.30am on Friday he found confused ducks and swans walking around on the floor of the lake.
Mr Leech said: “Most of the water ran away, which is a bit of a problem when you're trying to operate boats. It's also a problem for the wildlife.

“There is a large lake and a small lake. In the small lake, where we have the toddlers and kiddie pedal boats, there's not enough water to run them and the swans and ducks are literally walking in it, looking bemused.

“The large lake probably has six inches of water.”

He immediately contacted Cornwall Council, which has carried out remedial work and ensured vandals cannot strike again by installing metal and locks. 

“It was just not a very public spirit act,” he added.

The lack of water exposed a large number of items that had been thrown into the lake, giving Mr Leech and his staff the opportunity to get in and clear it out.

They found a couple of bicycles, “umpteen” trainers and “enough shoes to keep Clarks going”, plus a huge amount of breeze blocks, which the council have since taken away. 

Mr Leech is now planning a similar clear up day in the New Year, when he hopes the lake will be drained again and given a good clear out by volunteers.

It was then Helston Fire Station to the rescue on Monday, when crews spent the evening refilling the lake by pumping water from the nearby River Cober.

“Without the fire brigade we'd be rather snookered,” added Mr Leech.

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7:55am Wed 20 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

This was a terribly irresponsible act of vandalism and I hope the offender/s are identified. We have the fire service to thank for helping to rectify things, but had they been unavailable it could well have been a different story. This affected the business of someone with the provision of boats on the lake, it also could have affected trade for the cafe. It was an unpleasant experience for the wildlife, although they could have returned to the Penrose amenity area from where the swans originated, this would not be an ideal way in which for that to happen.
Whilst it may be ideal to drain the lake and rid it of some of the algae and remove any rubbish, the height of the holiday season is not the time in which to do this.
This was a terribly irresponsible act of vandalism and I hope the offender/s are identified. We have the fire service to thank for helping to rectify things, but had they been unavailable it could well have been a different story. This affected the business of someone with the provision of boats on the lake, it also could have affected trade for the cafe. It was an unpleasant experience for the wildlife, although they could have returned to the Penrose amenity area from where the swans originated, this would not be an ideal way in which for that to happen. Whilst it may be ideal to drain the lake and rid it of some of the algae and remove any rubbish, the height of the holiday season is not the time in which to do this. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 11

9:11am Wed 20 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

In no way condoning the actions of these idiots, but it does seem to be an ideal opportunity for action now...
In no way condoning the actions of these idiots, but it does seem to be an ideal opportunity for action now... krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -6

10:11am Wed 20 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Just trying to find a silver lining Helston John, cup half full and all that.
Just trying to find a silver lining Helston John, cup half full and all that. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -7

10:43am Wed 20 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?
Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?[/p][/quote]Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -17

11:12am Wed 20 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
This was a terribly irresponsible act of vandalism and I hope the offender/s are identified. We have the fire service to thank for helping to rectify things, but had they been unavailable it could well have been a different story. This affected the business of someone with the provision of boats on the lake, it also could have affected trade for the cafe. It was an unpleasant experience for the wildlife, although they could have returned to the Penrose amenity area from where the swans originated, this would not be an ideal way in which for that to happen.
Whilst it may be ideal to drain the lake and rid it of some of the algae and remove any rubbish, the height of the holiday season is not the time in which to do this.
Are you saying it was ok for the vandals to do it but not in the height of the holiday season?
How do you know the swans originally came from the amenity centre over the road, they were born on the lake in Coronation park.
Of course I am not saying it would be right for vandals to commit such an act at anytime. I meant that if future work was planned to drain the lake, the height of the holiday season would obviously not be the best time. It mentions New Year in the article, this obviously would be better as it would be out of season.

I am aware many swans have been born within the lake area, however, years ago the swans were on the water in the Penrose amenities area by the Fairground car-park, and were not on Coronation lake.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: This was a terribly irresponsible act of vandalism and I hope the offender/s are identified. We have the fire service to thank for helping to rectify things, but had they been unavailable it could well have been a different story. This affected the business of someone with the provision of boats on the lake, it also could have affected trade for the cafe. It was an unpleasant experience for the wildlife, although they could have returned to the Penrose amenity area from where the swans originated, this would not be an ideal way in which for that to happen. Whilst it may be ideal to drain the lake and rid it of some of the algae and remove any rubbish, the height of the holiday season is not the time in which to do this.[/p][/quote]Are you saying it was ok for the vandals to do it but not in the height of the holiday season? How do you know the swans originally came from the amenity centre over the road, they were born on the lake in Coronation park.[/p][/quote]Of course I am not saying it would be right for vandals to commit such an act at anytime. I meant that if future work was planned to drain the lake, the height of the holiday season would obviously not be the best time. It mentions New Year in the article, this obviously would be better as it would be out of season. I am aware many swans have been born within the lake area, however, years ago the swans were on the water in the Penrose amenities area by the Fairground car-park, and were not on Coronation lake. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 11

11:24am Wed 20 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?
Councillor Andrew Wallis did not say he wants to sell the lake and park to the owner of Flambards at all.

(Yes I have noticed that those with disabilities are charged for at Flambards, the over 80s now have to pay as well. I also think they must be about the only theme park now that has no family tickets available)

I additionally find your comment hard to believe that Councillor Judith Haycock said she is not interested in the park and lake.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?[/p][/quote]Councillor Andrew Wallis did not say he wants to sell the lake and park to the owner of Flambards at all. (Yes I have noticed that those with disabilities are charged for at Flambards, the over 80s now have to pay as well. I also think they must be about the only theme park now that has no family tickets available) I additionally find your comment hard to believe that Councillor Judith Haycock said she is not interested in the park and lake. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 13

12:02pm Wed 20 Aug 14

meerkats says...

I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first
I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first meerkats
  • Score: -5

12:26pm Wed 20 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?
Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.
Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?
[quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?[/p][/quote]Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.[/p][/quote]Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc? krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -10

12:39pm Wed 20 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?
Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.
Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?
The owners of Flambards won't want it, and no I don't think it's good to privatise a park.
Fair enough, but the option still should be considered even if it is briefly to discount it.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?[/p][/quote]Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.[/p][/quote]Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?[/p][/quote]The owners of Flambards won't want it, and no I don't think it's good to privatise a park.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, but the option still should be considered even if it is briefly to discount it. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -12

12:45pm Wed 20 Aug 14

diesel 1 says...

Good job the fire brigade were not on strike !!!!!
Good job the fire brigade were not on strike !!!!! diesel 1
  • Score: -5

12:50pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

krazyitchkatie wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?
Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.
Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?
I was originally led to believe that the South Kerrier Alliance might take over the management of the park, which in my view makes sense as they run the Old Cattle Market, they are additionally able to apply for funding that the council cannot. Surely it should not matter who actually manages the park providing the public still have free access, and it would be beneficial for a group that could afford to maintain it, to manage it.
[quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?[/p][/quote]Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.[/p][/quote]Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?[/p][/quote]I was originally led to believe that the South Kerrier Alliance might take over the management of the park, which in my view makes sense as they run the Old Cattle Market, they are additionally able to apply for funding that the council cannot. Surely it should not matter who actually manages the park providing the public still have free access, and it would be beneficial for a group that could afford to maintain it, to manage it. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 11

12:52pm Wed 20 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?
Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.
Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?
I was originally led to believe that the South Kerrier Alliance might take over the management of the park, which in my view makes sense as they run the Old Cattle Market, they are additionally able to apply for funding that the council cannot. Surely it should not matter who actually manages the park providing the public still have free access, and it would be beneficial for a group that could afford to maintain it, to manage it.
Indeed.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?[/p][/quote]Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.[/p][/quote]Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?[/p][/quote]I was originally led to believe that the South Kerrier Alliance might take over the management of the park, which in my view makes sense as they run the Old Cattle Market, they are additionally able to apply for funding that the council cannot. Surely it should not matter who actually manages the park providing the public still have free access, and it would be beneficial for a group that could afford to maintain it, to manage it.[/p][/quote]Indeed. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: 5

12:56pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

diesel 1 wrote:
Good job the fire brigade were not on strike !!!!!
It just would have deferred the remedial action not eliminated it, had that been the case.
[quote][p][bold]diesel 1[/bold] wrote: Good job the fire brigade were not on strike !!!!![/p][/quote]It just would have deferred the remedial action not eliminated it, had that been the case. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 10

1:00pm Wed 20 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?
Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.
Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?
The owners of Flambards won't want it, and no I don't think it's good to privatise a park.
Fair enough, but the option still should be considered even if it is briefly to discount it.
How can you consider an option of Flambards buying it when Flambards don't want to buy it for crying out loud.
You're original comment was that Flambards WON'T want it, implying a possible assumption on your part. But it's still an option if they haven't been asked (for crying out loud). I don't know - I'm only going on what you said.

Besides Cllr Wallis can still 'want' to sell it to them, even if they don't want it lol
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?[/p][/quote]Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.[/p][/quote]Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?[/p][/quote]The owners of Flambards won't want it, and no I don't think it's good to privatise a park.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, but the option still should be considered even if it is briefly to discount it.[/p][/quote]How can you consider an option of Flambards buying it when Flambards don't want to buy it for crying out loud.[/p][/quote]You're original comment was that Flambards WON'T want it, implying a possible assumption on your part. But it's still an option if they haven't been asked (for crying out loud). I don't know - I'm only going on what you said. Besides Cllr Wallis can still 'want' to sell it to them, even if they don't want it lol krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -8

1:26pm Wed 20 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?
Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.
Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?
The owners of Flambards won't want it, and no I don't think it's good to privatise a park.
Fair enough, but the option still should be considered even if it is briefly to discount it.
How can you consider an option of Flambards buying it when Flambards don't want to buy it for crying out loud.
You're original comment was that Flambards WON'T want it, implying a possible assumption on your part. But it's still an option if they haven't been asked (for crying out loud). I don't know - I'm only going on what you said.

Besides Cllr Wallis can still 'want' to sell it to them, even if they don't want it lol
Why the bloody hell would the owner of Flambards that is tight fisted enough to charge for disabled people in Flambards going to want to buy a non profit making park. Cllr Wallis only wants to sell it to Flambards because he's taking his local constituents for a ride.
Well you won't know till you present the opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?[/p][/quote]Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.[/p][/quote]Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?[/p][/quote]The owners of Flambards won't want it, and no I don't think it's good to privatise a park.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, but the option still should be considered even if it is briefly to discount it.[/p][/quote]How can you consider an option of Flambards buying it when Flambards don't want to buy it for crying out loud.[/p][/quote]You're original comment was that Flambards WON'T want it, implying a possible assumption on your part. But it's still an option if they haven't been asked (for crying out loud). I don't know - I'm only going on what you said. Besides Cllr Wallis can still 'want' to sell it to them, even if they don't want it lol[/p][/quote]Why the bloody hell would the owner of Flambards that is tight fisted enough to charge for disabled people in Flambards going to want to buy a non profit making park. Cllr Wallis only wants to sell it to Flambards because he's taking his local constituents for a ride.[/p][/quote]Well you won't know till you present the opportunity. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -12

1:27pm Wed 20 Aug 14

meerkats says...

Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first
You're so picky, does it matter what he mentioned first, the packet might have asked him about his business. Gill is actually right for once on this odd occasion, and the wildlife could have gone back to the amenity centre across the road, I've seen the ducks crossing the road before, and Cllr Haycock told me in an email that the swans shouldn't be on the lake and they're still there because people feed them and they shouldn't feed them and they've asked a woman that feeds them every day not to but she won't listen.
i am not picky just expressing an opinion .
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first[/p][/quote]You're so picky, does it matter what he mentioned first, the packet might have asked him about his business. Gill is actually right for once on this odd occasion, and the wildlife could have gone back to the amenity centre across the road, I've seen the ducks crossing the road before, and Cllr Haycock told me in an email that the swans shouldn't be on the lake and they're still there because people feed them and they shouldn't feed them and they've asked a woman that feeds them every day not to but she won't listen.[/p][/quote]i am not picky just expressing an opinion . meerkats
  • Score: -5

1:39pm Wed 20 Aug 14

krazyitchkatie says...

Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
krazyitchkatie wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?
Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.
Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?
The owners of Flambards won't want it, and no I don't think it's good to privatise a park.
Fair enough, but the option still should be considered even if it is briefly to discount it.
How can you consider an option of Flambards buying it when Flambards don't want to buy it for crying out loud.
You're original comment was that Flambards WON'T want it, implying a possible assumption on your part. But it's still an option if they haven't been asked (for crying out loud). I don't know - I'm only going on what you said.

Besides Cllr Wallis can still 'want' to sell it to them, even if they don't want it lol
Why the bloody hell would the owner of Flambards that is tight fisted enough to charge for disabled people in Flambards going to want to buy a non profit making park. Cllr Wallis only wants to sell it to Flambards because he's taking his local constituents for a ride.
Well you won't know till you present the opportunity.
Go on then meerkats you ask the owner of Flambards if he wants to buy the park, and make yourself look stupid, and even if he did buy it he would only want to make a profit and charge people for entry, then you'd be well popular with local residents and visitors, because who the hell charges for entry to a public park.
Now you're just making up weird hypotheses lol

My only point has been that it is always worthwhile to investigate every opportunity instead of just rubbishing it.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]krazyitchkatie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Cllr Wallis said he wants to sell that lake and park to the owner of Flambards, then they can put barriers on the gates and charge mega bucks to get in, like they do at Flambards, they even charge for disabled people at Falmbards now, has anyone else noticed that?[/p][/quote]Interesting idea though - it's always good to at least look at all possible options.[/p][/quote]Interesting that this is getting thumbed down - do others not think it is a good idea to at least LOOK at ALL possible options? Consider all angles, make sure you're not missing an opportunity etcetc?[/p][/quote]The owners of Flambards won't want it, and no I don't think it's good to privatise a park.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, but the option still should be considered even if it is briefly to discount it.[/p][/quote]How can you consider an option of Flambards buying it when Flambards don't want to buy it for crying out loud.[/p][/quote]You're original comment was that Flambards WON'T want it, implying a possible assumption on your part. But it's still an option if they haven't been asked (for crying out loud). I don't know - I'm only going on what you said. Besides Cllr Wallis can still 'want' to sell it to them, even if they don't want it lol[/p][/quote]Why the bloody hell would the owner of Flambards that is tight fisted enough to charge for disabled people in Flambards going to want to buy a non profit making park. Cllr Wallis only wants to sell it to Flambards because he's taking his local constituents for a ride.[/p][/quote]Well you won't know till you present the opportunity.[/p][/quote]Go on then meerkats you ask the owner of Flambards if he wants to buy the park, and make yourself look stupid, and even if he did buy it he would only want to make a profit and charge people for entry, then you'd be well popular with local residents and visitors, because who the hell charges for entry to a public park.[/p][/quote]Now you're just making up weird hypotheses lol My only point has been that it is always worthwhile to investigate every opportunity instead of just rubbishing it. krazyitchkatie
  • Score: -11

1:40pm Wed 20 Aug 14

meerkats says...

Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first
You're so picky, does it matter what he mentioned first, the packet might have asked him about his business. Gill is actually right for once on this odd occasion, and the wildlife could have gone back to the amenity centre across the road, I've seen the ducks crossing the road before, and Cllr Haycock told me in an email that the swans shouldn't be on the lake and they're still there because people feed them and they shouldn't feed them and they've asked a woman that feeds them every day not to but she won't listen.
i am not picky just expressing an opinion .
Yeah and I'm just expressing an opinion saying Your're picky. The wildlife obviously have more sense than you, because if they were there for any length of time without water or food they would leave the lake and go to the next nearest water supply.
And i obviously have more sense than you seeing as your comment above was in reply to krazyitchkatie re Flambards, and not me. i am quite aware the wildlife would go in search of water i am not stupid , just sounded like the guy was more interested in his boats.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first[/p][/quote]You're so picky, does it matter what he mentioned first, the packet might have asked him about his business. Gill is actually right for once on this odd occasion, and the wildlife could have gone back to the amenity centre across the road, I've seen the ducks crossing the road before, and Cllr Haycock told me in an email that the swans shouldn't be on the lake and they're still there because people feed them and they shouldn't feed them and they've asked a woman that feeds them every day not to but she won't listen.[/p][/quote]i am not picky just expressing an opinion .[/p][/quote]Yeah and I'm just expressing an opinion saying Your're picky. The wildlife obviously have more sense than you, because if they were there for any length of time without water or food they would leave the lake and go to the next nearest water supply.[/p][/quote]And i obviously have more sense than you seeing as your comment above was in reply to krazyitchkatie re Flambards, and not me. i am quite aware the wildlife would go in search of water i am not stupid , just sounded like the guy was more interested in his boats. meerkats
  • Score: -8

2:33pm Wed 20 Aug 14

meerkats says...

Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first
You're so picky, does it matter what he mentioned first, the packet might have asked him about his business. Gill is actually right for once on this odd occasion, and the wildlife could have gone back to the amenity centre across the road, I've seen the ducks crossing the road before, and Cllr Haycock told me in an email that the swans shouldn't be on the lake and they're still there because people feed them and they shouldn't feed them and they've asked a woman that feeds them every day not to but she won't listen.
i am not picky just expressing an opinion .
Yeah and I'm just expressing an opinion saying Your're picky. The wildlife obviously have more sense than you, because if they were there for any length of time without water or food they would leave the lake and go to the next nearest water supply.
And i obviously have more sense than you seeing as your comment above was in reply to krazyitchkatie re Flambards, and not me. i am quite aware the wildlife would go in search of water i am not stupid , just sounded like the guy was more interested in his boats.
No my comment was a just a mistake in names, yours was your own choice to pick fault about whether someone mentioned the wildlife or the boats first. For goodness sake, the boats is the guys income, the wildlife can look after themselves, they're not stupid, they wouldn't stay there for long with no water or food they'd move on to another water supply.
yes and the food sold at the Park Cafe is the owners income referring to your earlier comment re Cllr Haycock. Whenever i leave a comment you always pull it to bits anyway in your eyes i am always wrong .
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first[/p][/quote]You're so picky, does it matter what he mentioned first, the packet might have asked him about his business. Gill is actually right for once on this odd occasion, and the wildlife could have gone back to the amenity centre across the road, I've seen the ducks crossing the road before, and Cllr Haycock told me in an email that the swans shouldn't be on the lake and they're still there because people feed them and they shouldn't feed them and they've asked a woman that feeds them every day not to but she won't listen.[/p][/quote]i am not picky just expressing an opinion .[/p][/quote]Yeah and I'm just expressing an opinion saying Your're picky. The wildlife obviously have more sense than you, because if they were there for any length of time without water or food they would leave the lake and go to the next nearest water supply.[/p][/quote]And i obviously have more sense than you seeing as your comment above was in reply to krazyitchkatie re Flambards, and not me. i am quite aware the wildlife would go in search of water i am not stupid , just sounded like the guy was more interested in his boats.[/p][/quote]No my comment was a just a mistake in names, yours was your own choice to pick fault about whether someone mentioned the wildlife or the boats first. For goodness sake, the boats is the guys income, the wildlife can look after themselves, they're not stupid, they wouldn't stay there for long with no water or food they'd move on to another water supply.[/p][/quote]yes and the food sold at the Park Cafe is the owners income referring to your earlier comment re Cllr Haycock. Whenever i leave a comment you always pull it to bits anyway in your eyes i am always wrong . meerkats
  • Score: -9

2:54pm Wed 20 Aug 14

diesel 1 says...

Helston john is spouting off again writing a load of crap. god knows what he says verbally. He runs everyone down.The attitude problem he has is a very big one. Grow up and show some respect to other people you moron.
Helston john is spouting off again writing a load of crap. god knows what he says verbally. He runs everyone down.The attitude problem he has is a very big one. Grow up and show some respect to other people you moron. diesel 1
  • Score: 13

2:56pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John I personally think you are disrespectful and rude about Councillor Judith Haycock and I think you are unkind about some of the comments others post, in particular meerkats.
We may not always agree with each other, however, I believe there is no need to be rude to others.
Helston John I personally think you are disrespectful and rude about Councillor Judith Haycock and I think you are unkind about some of the comments others post, in particular meerkats. We may not always agree with each other, however, I believe there is no need to be rude to others. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 9

3:29pm Wed 20 Aug 14

meerkats says...

Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first
You're so picky, does it matter what he mentioned first, the packet might have asked him about his business. Gill is actually right for once on this odd occasion, and the wildlife could have gone back to the amenity centre across the road, I've seen the ducks crossing the road before, and Cllr Haycock told me in an email that the swans shouldn't be on the lake and they're still there because people feed them and they shouldn't feed them and they've asked a woman that feeds them every day not to but she won't listen.
i am not picky just expressing an opinion .
Yeah and I'm just expressing an opinion saying Your're picky. The wildlife obviously have more sense than you, because if they were there for any length of time without water or food they would leave the lake and go to the next nearest water supply.
And i obviously have more sense than you seeing as your comment above was in reply to krazyitchkatie re Flambards, and not me. i am quite aware the wildlife would go in search of water i am not stupid , just sounded like the guy was more interested in his boats.
No my comment was a just a mistake in names, yours was your own choice to pick fault about whether someone mentioned the wildlife or the boats first. For goodness sake, the boats is the guys income, the wildlife can look after themselves, they're not stupid, they wouldn't stay there for long with no water or food they'd move on to another water supply.
yes and the food sold at the Park Cafe is the owners income referring to your earlier comment re Cllr Haycock. Whenever i leave a comment you always pull it to bits anyway in your eyes i am always wrong .
I didn't say you were always wrong, the only one always wrong on here is Gill because she thinks the Cornwall Cllrs are good.
Gill is not always wrong as you say , her comments are always well written, interesting and -- not rude or offensive like most of yours are.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first[/p][/quote]You're so picky, does it matter what he mentioned first, the packet might have asked him about his business. Gill is actually right for once on this odd occasion, and the wildlife could have gone back to the amenity centre across the road, I've seen the ducks crossing the road before, and Cllr Haycock told me in an email that the swans shouldn't be on the lake and they're still there because people feed them and they shouldn't feed them and they've asked a woman that feeds them every day not to but she won't listen.[/p][/quote]i am not picky just expressing an opinion .[/p][/quote]Yeah and I'm just expressing an opinion saying Your're picky. The wildlife obviously have more sense than you, because if they were there for any length of time without water or food they would leave the lake and go to the next nearest water supply.[/p][/quote]And i obviously have more sense than you seeing as your comment above was in reply to krazyitchkatie re Flambards, and not me. i am quite aware the wildlife would go in search of water i am not stupid , just sounded like the guy was more interested in his boats.[/p][/quote]No my comment was a just a mistake in names, yours was your own choice to pick fault about whether someone mentioned the wildlife or the boats first. For goodness sake, the boats is the guys income, the wildlife can look after themselves, they're not stupid, they wouldn't stay there for long with no water or food they'd move on to another water supply.[/p][/quote]yes and the food sold at the Park Cafe is the owners income referring to your earlier comment re Cllr Haycock. Whenever i leave a comment you always pull it to bits anyway in your eyes i am always wrong .[/p][/quote]I didn't say you were always wrong, the only one always wrong on here is Gill because she thinks the Cornwall Cllrs are good.[/p][/quote]Gill is not always wrong as you say , her comments are always well written, interesting and -- not rude or offensive like most of yours are. meerkats
  • Score: 15

4:32pm Wed 20 Aug 14

diesel 1 says...

We have found the real culprit. It wasn't the broken doors that drained the lake, it was Helston john breathing in.
We have found the real culprit. It wasn't the broken doors that drained the lake, it was Helston john breathing in. diesel 1
  • Score: 8

7:19pm Wed 20 Aug 14

scrumble says...

We went on one of our regular walks round the boating lake today and it was very sad to see the swans walking round the filthy water at the lower end. These magnificent birds deserve better than this. Omex Environmental at Kings Lynn specialise in biological water treatment issues (there are probably many other companies in the UK) Has anyone in Cornwall Council thought of contacting them or other UK companies?
Just a thought, but perhaps it's time to think outside the box.
We went on one of our regular walks round the boating lake today and it was very sad to see the swans walking round the filthy water at the lower end. These magnificent birds deserve better than this. Omex Environmental at Kings Lynn specialise in biological water treatment issues (there are probably many other companies in the UK) Has anyone in Cornwall Council thought of contacting them or other UK companies? Just a thought, but perhaps it's time to think outside the box. scrumble
  • Score: -18

9:28am Thu 21 Aug 14

meerkats says...

Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first
You're so picky, does it matter what he mentioned first, the packet might have asked him about his business. Gill is actually right for once on this odd occasion, and the wildlife could have gone back to the amenity centre across the road, I've seen the ducks crossing the road before, and Cllr Haycock told me in an email that the swans shouldn't be on the lake and they're still there because people feed them and they shouldn't feed them and they've asked a woman that feeds them every day not to but she won't listen.
i am not picky just expressing an opinion .
Yeah and I'm just expressing an opinion saying Your're picky. The wildlife obviously have more sense than you, because if they were there for any length of time without water or food they would leave the lake and go to the next nearest water supply.
And i obviously have more sense than you seeing as your comment above was in reply to krazyitchkatie re Flambards, and not me. i am quite aware the wildlife would go in search of water i am not stupid , just sounded like the guy was more interested in his boats.
No my comment was a just a mistake in names, yours was your own choice to pick fault about whether someone mentioned the wildlife or the boats first. For goodness sake, the boats is the guys income, the wildlife can look after themselves, they're not stupid, they wouldn't stay there for long with no water or food they'd move on to another water supply.
yes and the food sold at the Park Cafe is the owners income referring to your earlier comment re Cllr Haycock. Whenever i leave a comment you always pull it to bits anyway in your eyes i am always wrong .
I didn't say you were always wrong, the only one always wrong on here is Gill because she thinks the Cornwall Cllrs are good.
Gill is not always wrong as you say , her comments are always well written, interesting and -- not rude or offensive like most of yours are.
I'm not rude and offensive, I just say what other people think but havn't got the nerve to say, you reckon I'm the only person that thinks Cllr Haycock is gormless, if you do you're kidding yourself.
What other people are you referring to when you say its what people think but havent got the nerve to say. certainly not me for one. I dont know anything about Cllr Haycock but i think your remarks aimed at her are rude. ,
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: I can never understand what enjoyment anyone would get from vandalising things and i hope the ones who did this are caught . In the article Mr Leech said its a bit of a problem when trying to operate boats then says its a problem for the wildlife too, I think the wildlife is the priority and would have mentioned them first[/p][/quote]You're so picky, does it matter what he mentioned first, the packet might have asked him about his business. Gill is actually right for once on this odd occasion, and the wildlife could have gone back to the amenity centre across the road, I've seen the ducks crossing the road before, and Cllr Haycock told me in an email that the swans shouldn't be on the lake and they're still there because people feed them and they shouldn't feed them and they've asked a woman that feeds them every day not to but she won't listen.[/p][/quote]i am not picky just expressing an opinion .[/p][/quote]Yeah and I'm just expressing an opinion saying Your're picky. The wildlife obviously have more sense than you, because if they were there for any length of time without water or food they would leave the lake and go to the next nearest water supply.[/p][/quote]And i obviously have more sense than you seeing as your comment above was in reply to krazyitchkatie re Flambards, and not me. i am quite aware the wildlife would go in search of water i am not stupid , just sounded like the guy was more interested in his boats.[/p][/quote]No my comment was a just a mistake in names, yours was your own choice to pick fault about whether someone mentioned the wildlife or the boats first. For goodness sake, the boats is the guys income, the wildlife can look after themselves, they're not stupid, they wouldn't stay there for long with no water or food they'd move on to another water supply.[/p][/quote]yes and the food sold at the Park Cafe is the owners income referring to your earlier comment re Cllr Haycock. Whenever i leave a comment you always pull it to bits anyway in your eyes i am always wrong .[/p][/quote]I didn't say you were always wrong, the only one always wrong on here is Gill because she thinks the Cornwall Cllrs are good.[/p][/quote]Gill is not always wrong as you say , her comments are always well written, interesting and -- not rude or offensive like most of yours are.[/p][/quote]I'm not rude and offensive, I just say what other people think but havn't got the nerve to say, you reckon I'm the only person that thinks Cllr Haycock is gormless, if you do you're kidding yourself.[/p][/quote]What other people are you referring to when you say its what people think but havent got the nerve to say. certainly not me for one. I dont know anything about Cllr Haycock but i think your remarks aimed at her are rude. , meerkats
  • Score: -6

3:31pm Fri 22 Aug 14

juwhite says...

Helston John you always seem to say things to get people to argue with you and are highly offensive. You can speak your mind without been offensive to everyone. You must be easy to recognise in Helston as a friendless person who has a permanent scowl and fat lip/black eye where someone has taken offence with you.
Helston John you always seem to say things to get people to argue with you and are highly offensive. You can speak your mind without been offensive to everyone. You must be easy to recognise in Helston as a friendless person who has a permanent scowl and fat lip/black eye where someone has taken offence with you. juwhite
  • Score: 10

4:15pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Jirakitt says...

juwhite wrote:
Helston John you always seem to say things to get people to argue with you and are highly offensive. You can speak your mind without been offensive to everyone. You must be easy to recognise in Helston as a friendless person who has a permanent scowl and fat lip/black eye where someone has taken offence with you.
Helston John has been removed, probably setting up a new email and will be back under a new name, but as now 'happy days'.
[quote][p][bold]juwhite[/bold] wrote: Helston John you always seem to say things to get people to argue with you and are highly offensive. You can speak your mind without been offensive to everyone. You must be easy to recognise in Helston as a friendless person who has a permanent scowl and fat lip/black eye where someone has taken offence with you.[/p][/quote]Helston John has been removed, probably setting up a new email and will be back under a new name, but as now 'happy days'. Jirakitt
  • Score: 1

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