Public urged to support Helston Wetherspoon by owner of closing business

Public urged to support Helston Wetherspoon by owner of closing business

Public urged to support Helston Wetherspoon by owner of closing business

First published in News

The owner of the family business set to be taken over by JD Wetherspoon in Helston has urged people to get behind the new venture. 

Oliver & Son, a home furnishing store on Coinagehall Street, has confirmed it is to close at the end of the year after 80 years trading in the town.

In its place the low-cost pub chain is hoping to open in the 10,000 square foot premises left vacant.

Owner Chris Oliver, who is the third generation of the family to run the business, has decided that it is time to retire and enjoy more time with his wife and family.

A conditional sale has been confirmed to Wetherspoon, although the opening of a branch in the town is still subject to planning and licensing consent.

Mr Oliver, who hopes the people of Helston will support the new venture, said: “I'm sad that I wasn't able to find a buyer in the furnishing trade. We did have various people come and have a look and talk about it, but nothing was forthcoming.

“Unfortunately you have to look at the potential. We decided that if we couldn't sell it as a going concern we had to look at other ways.

“It's a big premises - the last thing I wanted was to have another huge premises in the middle of Helston which becomes an eyesore. That's not good for anyone.”

He has high hopes for the future venture and its impact on the town, adding: “If we can get it into a thriving business again then that is going to be good for the town.

“It will bring a lot more people into the town.”

Mr Oliver said the pub would employ four or five times more staff than his business, but added: “There is always a downside to such a decision and that is that our loyal staff will lose their employment.”

He urged local employers able to offer jobs to the eight members being made redundant to contact him, adding: “Many of you will know them as friends and appreciate the knowledge and advice that you have received in an enjoyable and conscientious way from them.”

One staff member has been with the business for 20 years and Mr Oliver said they have become like family.

“This is why I have been trying to find another furnishing business to take it on - and their wealth of knowledge is huge,” he said.

Mr Oliver thanked the business's clients for their business, support and friendship over the years, saying: “We would like to think that much of our trade will stay in Helston and we commend to you the other local shops which will be able to satisfy your needs for furniture, carpets and soft furnishings.”

A “Grand Goodbye Sale” will be held later in the year, as all stock items must go. There have also been “considerable reductions” promised on special orders.

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2:02pm Thu 21 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

Good luck to Olivers employees

Good luck Wetherspoon

Will fascinating to watch the transformation
Good luck to Olivers employees Good luck Wetherspoon Will fascinating to watch the transformation telstar1962
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2:25pm Thu 21 Aug 14

meerkats says...

I am sure wetherspoons will do well
I am sure wetherspoons will do well meerkats
  • Score: -19

6:58pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

meerkats wrote:
I am sure wetherspoons will do well
Does Helston REALLY need another pub. No. Helston is fast becoming the number 1 town for pubs/bars in Cornwall, excluding hairdressers, charity shops and estate agents of course.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: I am sure wetherspoons will do well[/p][/quote]Does Helston REALLY need another pub. No. Helston is fast becoming the number 1 town for pubs/bars in Cornwall, excluding hairdressers, charity shops and estate agents of course. Eyespy
  • Score: 9

11:46pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Deemon80 says...

Yes let's all back wetherspoons and stop going to all the pubs/café's and restaurants that are already in the town that are struggling by undercutting them on coffee, food and alcohol. Great idea!!...How about selling to a chain that will not take the majority of trade from other units and actually bring more people in like an argos or a primark to name but a few.
Yes let's all back wetherspoons and stop going to all the pubs/café's and restaurants that are already in the town that are struggling by undercutting them on coffee, food and alcohol. Great idea!!...How about selling to a chain that will not take the majority of trade from other units and actually bring more people in like an argos or a primark to name but a few. Deemon80
  • Score: -7

8:39am Fri 22 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 5

11:05am Fri 22 Aug 14

Deemon80 says...

Helston John wrote:
Deemon80 wrote:
Yes let's all back wetherspoons and stop going to all the pubs/café's and restaurants that are already in the town that are struggling by undercutting them on coffee, food and alcohol. Great idea!!...How about selling to a chain that will not take the majority of trade from other units and actually bring more people in like an argos or a primark to name but a few.
Yeah great idea, trouble is Primarks or Argos don't want to come to Helston and showed no interest in buying Oliver's anyway, what you want and what the big stores want to do are two different things so how does your comment help. Didn't you notice it says in the article other stores looked but didn't buy the premises, didn't you also notice how long Oliver's was on the market for. Get real. You're living in cloud cuckoo land.
Yes I did read read the article and it states no other furnishing business wanted to buy as a going concern, which I understand as the unit is so big. The council are fully aware that olivers want to sell and no one other than wetherspoons are interested so maybe they need to think and step in. Units are empty in the town and more could follow if planning and licensing consent is given to jd. The town, as already stated is saturated with pubs, estate agents, charity shops and eateries. Helston needs something different to draw people into the town and maybe the council can help attract the bigger companies to invest rather than take a backseat all the time.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Deemon80[/bold] wrote: Yes let's all back wetherspoons and stop going to all the pubs/café's and restaurants that are already in the town that are struggling by undercutting them on coffee, food and alcohol. Great idea!!...How about selling to a chain that will not take the majority of trade from other units and actually bring more people in like an argos or a primark to name but a few.[/p][/quote]Yeah great idea, trouble is Primarks or Argos don't want to come to Helston and showed no interest in buying Oliver's anyway, what you want and what the big stores want to do are two different things so how does your comment help. Didn't you notice it says in the article other stores looked but didn't buy the premises, didn't you also notice how long Oliver's was on the market for. Get real. You're living in cloud cuckoo land.[/p][/quote]Yes I did read read the article and it states no other furnishing business wanted to buy as a going concern, which I understand as the unit is so big. The council are fully aware that olivers want to sell and no one other than wetherspoons are interested so maybe they need to think and step in. Units are empty in the town and more could follow if planning and licensing consent is given to jd. The town, as already stated is saturated with pubs, estate agents, charity shops and eateries. Helston needs something different to draw people into the town and maybe the council can help attract the bigger companies to invest rather than take a backseat all the time. Deemon80
  • Score: 3

11:12am Fri 22 Aug 14

Deemon80 says...

Helston John wrote:
Deemon80 wrote:
Yes let's all back wetherspoons and stop going to all the pubs/café's and restaurants that are already in the town that are struggling by undercutting them on coffee, food and alcohol. Great idea!!...How about selling to a chain that will not take the majority of trade from other units and actually bring more people in like an argos or a primark to name but a few.
Perhaps you'd like to actually send your comments directly to Mr Oliver and while Your're at it tell him to donate some of his furniture to the family that had the fire. See I can live in cloud cuckoo land too.
I have no issue with mr oliver selling, I have an issue with the council then allowing the appropriate planning consent and licencing to be awarded to the premises, all of which in my opinion, has already been given the green light else jd would not be investing. I'd also like to add that donating items to the poor family that lost everything does not constitute living in cuckoo land but would actually be a very kind and generous thing to do.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Deemon80[/bold] wrote: Yes let's all back wetherspoons and stop going to all the pubs/café's and restaurants that are already in the town that are struggling by undercutting them on coffee, food and alcohol. Great idea!!...How about selling to a chain that will not take the majority of trade from other units and actually bring more people in like an argos or a primark to name but a few.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you'd like to actually send your comments directly to Mr Oliver and while Your're at it tell him to donate some of his furniture to the family that had the fire. See I can live in cloud cuckoo land too.[/p][/quote]I have no issue with mr oliver selling, I have an issue with the council then allowing the appropriate planning consent and licencing to be awarded to the premises, all of which in my opinion, has already been given the green light else jd would not be investing. I'd also like to add that donating items to the poor family that lost everything does not constitute living in cuckoo land but would actually be a very kind and generous thing to do. Deemon80
  • Score: 1

2:13pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons. Eyespy
  • Score: 7

5:58pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
You're back tracking Ronny boy Edgcumbe would say. He'll be giving you a slap soon.
I am not back tracking, there is a clear difference between that and speaking with hindsight. I simply posted with hindsight, brought about by my listening and reading others opinions and seeing their point of view, also looking at things from another perspective. If Wetherspoons goes ahead I no doubt will go in there at some point, probably early morning at breakfast time, however, I will continue to patronise the Coffee Bean etc as I have done for many years. I just like to see things from others view points and acknowledge that my opinions are not always the right ones. I cannot say what is right for Helston as I do not own a business in the town, only those that do, know what is right for them. I patronise the town regularly, I shopped in Helston this morning and Porthleven. I would imagine Wetherspoons would provide an alternative social hub for those that wish but I would also think some people will remain loyal to their favourite places.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]You're back tracking Ronny boy Edgcumbe would say. He'll be giving you a slap soon.[/p][/quote]I am not back tracking, there is a clear difference between that and speaking with hindsight. I simply posted with hindsight, brought about by my listening and reading others opinions and seeing their point of view, also looking at things from another perspective. If Wetherspoons goes ahead I no doubt will go in there at some point, probably early morning at breakfast time, however, I will continue to patronise the Coffee Bean etc as I have done for many years. I just like to see things from others view points and acknowledge that my opinions are not always the right ones. I cannot say what is right for Helston as I do not own a business in the town, only those that do, know what is right for them. I patronise the town regularly, I shopped in Helston this morning and Porthleven. I would imagine Wetherspoons would provide an alternative social hub for those that wish but I would also think some people will remain loyal to their favourite places. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 3

6:05pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
[quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

6:32pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned. Eyespy
  • Score: -3

7:36pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.
Yes we did have two butchers, banks, book shop, shoe shop, paper shop, Hattons three shops which are now one Spar, goodies, the treasure box etc but the closing of some of these shops were not a result of the out of town supermarkets as some of them closed before the supermarkets existed, and some closed due to personal reasons.
We are not solely a holiday village and we sustain a large post office, spar, mini market, chemist, Andertons, deli, Biddicks electrical shop etc as everyday shops. Free cash machine availability in the post office, youth centre, junior and senior school and a full time Drs surgery, Mullion most certainly does not just cater for holiday makers. Helston and Mullion both have plenty to offer. One just has to accept that this is the 21st century and things have changed, with many people shopping and banking etc online.
[quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.[/p][/quote]Yes we did have two butchers, banks, book shop, shoe shop, paper shop, Hattons three shops which are now one Spar, goodies, the treasure box etc but the closing of some of these shops were not a result of the out of town supermarkets as some of them closed before the supermarkets existed, and some closed due to personal reasons. We are not solely a holiday village and we sustain a large post office, spar, mini market, chemist, Andertons, deli, Biddicks electrical shop etc as everyday shops. Free cash machine availability in the post office, youth centre, junior and senior school and a full time Drs surgery, Mullion most certainly does not just cater for holiday makers. Helston and Mullion both have plenty to offer. One just has to accept that this is the 21st century and things have changed, with many people shopping and banking etc online. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 3

8:00pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.
Incidentally if Mullion only catered for holiday makers it would not sustain three churches and the shops would not remain open all year round!
[quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.[/p][/quote]Incidentally if Mullion only catered for holiday makers it would not sustain three churches and the shops would not remain open all year round! Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 3

8:10pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.
Yes we did have two butchers, banks, book shop, shoe shop, paper shop, Hattons three shops which are now one Spar, goodies, the treasure box etc but the closing of some of these shops were not a result of the out of town supermarkets as some of them closed before the supermarkets existed, and some closed due to personal reasons.
We are not solely a holiday village and we sustain a large post office, spar, mini market, chemist, Andertons, deli, Biddicks electrical shop etc as everyday shops. Free cash machine availability in the post office, youth centre, junior and senior school and a full time Drs surgery, Mullion most certainly does not just cater for holiday makers. Helston and Mullion both have plenty to offer. One just has to accept that this is the 21st century and things have changed, with many people shopping and banking etc online.
If Mullion is so good why have you said on here you'd live in Porthleven if you could?
Mullion is good, but being a Levener I prefer Porthleven, and usually spend more time during the day there than I do in Mullion. I also personally think Porthleven has more to offer than Mullion, and it has a very good town council and Cornwall Councillor. My family were priced out of Porthleven with rents years ago. I am glad Wetherspoons did not choose Porthleven.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.[/p][/quote]Yes we did have two butchers, banks, book shop, shoe shop, paper shop, Hattons three shops which are now one Spar, goodies, the treasure box etc but the closing of some of these shops were not a result of the out of town supermarkets as some of them closed before the supermarkets existed, and some closed due to personal reasons. We are not solely a holiday village and we sustain a large post office, spar, mini market, chemist, Andertons, deli, Biddicks electrical shop etc as everyday shops. Free cash machine availability in the post office, youth centre, junior and senior school and a full time Drs surgery, Mullion most certainly does not just cater for holiday makers. Helston and Mullion both have plenty to offer. One just has to accept that this is the 21st century and things have changed, with many people shopping and banking etc online.[/p][/quote]If Mullion is so good why have you said on here you'd live in Porthleven if you could?[/p][/quote]Mullion is good, but being a Levener I prefer Porthleven, and usually spend more time during the day there than I do in Mullion. I also personally think Porthleven has more to offer than Mullion, and it has a very good town council and Cornwall Councillor. My family were priced out of Porthleven with rents years ago. I am glad Wetherspoons did not choose Porthleven. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 4

8:25pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
We're getting Wetherspoons whether you old fogey like it or not.
I personally think your comment to Eyespy is unnecessarily rude.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]We're getting Wetherspoons whether you old fogey like it or not.[/p][/quote]I personally think your comment to Eyespy is unnecessarily rude. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 2

8:34pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Eyespy says...

Helston John wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
We're getting Wetherspoons whether you old fogey like it or not.
Suff your poxy Wetherspoons.

Tee Hee
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]We're getting Wetherspoons whether you old fogey like it or not.[/p][/quote]Suff your poxy Wetherspoons. Tee Hee Eyespy
  • Score: 2

1:03pm Sat 23 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

Spellcheck

We don't need anyone to 'verify' who Gill is.

I am sure that as part of the recent Cornwall Delivery and Investment Plan, it was stated that Helston needed up to a further 1200 homes by the end of the year 2020, potentially to be built in three phases.

And so with the Town's population due to increase by about 20% in a relatively short space of time, then the need for a business like Wetherspoon seems to be a sensible idea, and with their introduction in Helston, a couple of the licensed establishments will need to raise their game in order to compete.

My ideas of what I think is needed on the edge of Town have been documented on this web-site more than once, and I still think the barren land by Table-Table and all the way round to Sainsbury needs to be developed as a medium sized out-of-town shopping mall, with car parking and transport services provided to get in and out of town.

Whether or not Wetherspoon should be in Town or on the edge doesn't really matter, but if there is a perceived demand for all these new houses, then surely it's time that some more new decent shops were also built to cater for the increased needs of a growing population
Spellcheck We don't need anyone to 'verify' who Gill is. I am sure that as part of the recent Cornwall Delivery and Investment Plan, it was stated that Helston needed up to a further 1200 homes by the end of the year 2020, potentially to be built in three phases. And so with the Town's population due to increase by about 20% in a relatively short space of time, then the need for a business like Wetherspoon seems to be a sensible idea, and with their introduction in Helston, a couple of the licensed establishments will need to raise their game in order to compete. My ideas of what I think is needed on the edge of Town have been documented on this web-site more than once, and I still think the barren land by Table-Table and all the way round to Sainsbury needs to be developed as a medium sized out-of-town shopping mall, with car parking and transport services provided to get in and out of town. Whether or not Wetherspoon should be in Town or on the edge doesn't really matter, but if there is a perceived demand for all these new houses, then surely it's time that some more new decent shops were also built to cater for the increased needs of a growing population telstar1962
  • Score: 2

1:14pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

telstar1962 wrote:
Spellcheck

We don't need anyone to 'verify' who Gill is.

I am sure that as part of the recent Cornwall Delivery and Investment Plan, it was stated that Helston needed up to a further 1200 homes by the end of the year 2020, potentially to be built in three phases.

And so with the Town's population due to increase by about 20% in a relatively short space of time, then the need for a business like Wetherspoon seems to be a sensible idea, and with their introduction in Helston, a couple of the licensed establishments will need to raise their game in order to compete.

My ideas of what I think is needed on the edge of Town have been documented on this web-site more than once, and I still think the barren land by Table-Table and all the way round to Sainsbury needs to be developed as a medium sized out-of-town shopping mall, with car parking and transport services provided to get in and out of town.

Whether or not Wetherspoon should be in Town or on the edge doesn't really matter, but if there is a perceived demand for all these new houses, then surely it's time that some more new decent shops were also built to cater for the increased needs of a growing population
Completely agree with you. It would additionally provide plenty of employment during the building process, and afterwards, for the shops and of course Wetherspoons :)
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: Spellcheck We don't need anyone to 'verify' who Gill is. I am sure that as part of the recent Cornwall Delivery and Investment Plan, it was stated that Helston needed up to a further 1200 homes by the end of the year 2020, potentially to be built in three phases. And so with the Town's population due to increase by about 20% in a relatively short space of time, then the need for a business like Wetherspoon seems to be a sensible idea, and with their introduction in Helston, a couple of the licensed establishments will need to raise their game in order to compete. My ideas of what I think is needed on the edge of Town have been documented on this web-site more than once, and I still think the barren land by Table-Table and all the way round to Sainsbury needs to be developed as a medium sized out-of-town shopping mall, with car parking and transport services provided to get in and out of town. Whether or not Wetherspoon should be in Town or on the edge doesn't really matter, but if there is a perceived demand for all these new houses, then surely it's time that some more new decent shops were also built to cater for the increased needs of a growing population[/p][/quote]Completely agree with you. It would additionally provide plenty of employment during the building process, and afterwards, for the shops and of course Wetherspoons :) Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 3

1:23pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
Can anyone in Helston varify who you are Gill?
Williams furniture shop has delivered x amount of furniture to my address and in my name.

Councillor Jonathan Radford-Gaby has met me on numerous occasions, Councillor Mike Thomas has met me, Delboy in the Coffee Bean has met me on numerous occasions, Chris Dawson the town clerk has met me on several occasions.
I am exactly who I say I am and post under.
Who would you like me to be?
Interesting comment from you who does not post under your full name.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Can anyone in Helston varify who you are Gill?[/p][/quote]Williams furniture shop has delivered x amount of furniture to my address and in my name. Councillor Jonathan Radford-Gaby has met me on numerous occasions, Councillor Mike Thomas has met me, Delboy in the Coffee Bean has met me on numerous occasions, Chris Dawson the town clerk has met me on several occasions. I am exactly who I say I am and post under. Who would you like me to be? Interesting comment from you who does not post under your full name. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 3

4:08pm Sat 23 Aug 14

meerkats says...

Helston John wrote:
Can anyone in Helston varify who you are Gill?
Your continual comments aimed at Gill are getting more and more absurd. and often rude, Why should anyone verify who Gill is and why would she make up a name, incidentally i think Zella is a lovely unusual name.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Can anyone in Helston varify who you are Gill?[/p][/quote]Your continual comments aimed at Gill are getting more and more absurd. and often rude, Why should anyone verify who Gill is and why would she make up a name, incidentally i think Zella is a lovely unusual name. meerkats
  • Score: 2

5:37pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Deemon80 says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion attracts a lot of holiday makers. Helston, sadly does not.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion attracts a lot of holiday makers. Helston, sadly does not. Deemon80
  • Score: -2

6:40pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Deemon80 wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion attracts a lot of holiday makers. Helston, sadly does not.
Very true, but there is the holiday park at the end of the road, which personally I wish they would do away with and build affordable housing there instead. The camping field there to me resembles a **** field, when my daughter comes home she very often stays at the holiday park. I would have thought a lot of users of the park would visit Helston town centre though because it has a wider range of shops than Mullion. I know my daughter does, it's the first place she goes. There are some bed and breakfast places in Helston too.
[quote][p][bold]Deemon80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion attracts a lot of holiday makers. Helston, sadly does not.[/p][/quote]Very true, but there is the holiday park at the end of the road, which personally I wish they would do away with and build affordable housing there instead. The camping field there to me resembles a **** field, when my daughter comes home she very often stays at the holiday park. I would have thought a lot of users of the park would visit Helston town centre though because it has a wider range of shops than Mullion. I know my daughter does, it's the first place she goes. There are some bed and breakfast places in Helston too. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

6:47pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Whoops, it starred out my word, which is not an expletive, for gypsy field.
Incidentally my daughters father was a gypsy.
Whoops, it starred out my word, which is not an expletive, for gypsy field. Incidentally my daughters father was a gypsy. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

6:56pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Can anyone in Helston varify who you are Gill?
Your continual comments aimed at Gill are getting more and more absurd. and often rude, Why should anyone verify who Gill is and why would she make up a name, incidentally i think Zella is a lovely unusual name.
I agree with you, and thank you about my name.

Incidentally, some comments on here indicate that Wetherspoons is a done deal with planning permission, but look what happened at Hill Top after they purchased the building, they were refused planning permission for the pasty drive through. So we will have to wait and see I suppose.
[quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Can anyone in Helston varify who you are Gill?[/p][/quote]Your continual comments aimed at Gill are getting more and more absurd. and often rude, Why should anyone verify who Gill is and why would she make up a name, incidentally i think Zella is a lovely unusual name.[/p][/quote]I agree with you, and thank you about my name. Incidentally, some comments on here indicate that Wetherspoons is a done deal with planning permission, but look what happened at Hill Top after they purchased the building, they were refused planning permission for the pasty drive through. So we will have to wait and see I suppose. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

8:16pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
Can anyone in Helston varify who you are Gill?
Your continual comments aimed at Gill are getting more and more absurd. and often rude, Why should anyone verify who Gill is and why would she make up a name, incidentally i think Zella is a lovely unusual name.
Yeah I admit I don't really comment under my real name, I'm not Helston John, I'm Andrew Wallis and I'm a Cllr.
I believe you should not be purporting to be Councillor Andrew Wallis on this website. Despite the fact it is clearly untrue, in my view it goes beyond the bounds of what is acceptable to post.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: Can anyone in Helston varify who you are Gill?[/p][/quote]Your continual comments aimed at Gill are getting more and more absurd. and often rude, Why should anyone verify who Gill is and why would she make up a name, incidentally i think Zella is a lovely unusual name.[/p][/quote]Yeah I admit I don't really comment under my real name, I'm not Helston John, I'm Andrew Wallis and I'm a Cllr.[/p][/quote]I believe you should not be purporting to be Councillor Andrew Wallis on this website. Despite the fact it is clearly untrue, in my view it goes beyond the bounds of what is acceptable to post. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 2

8:47pm Sat 23 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

The site terms request that you do not post anything that is false.

I do not wish to report Helston John's post by pressing the 'report this post' button, but if anyone from the Packet reads these comments, then I think he should be dealt with accordingly
The site terms request that you do not post anything that is false. I do not wish to report Helston John's post by pressing the 'report this post' button, but if anyone from the Packet reads these comments, then I think he should be dealt with accordingly telstar1962
  • Score: 2

9:38pm Sat 23 Aug 14

meerkats says...

Helston John wrote:
No, you all don't seem to understand, I really am Cllr Andrew Wallis, the local Cornwall Cllr. I just used the name Helston John so I could leave some rotten comments but now I'm going to be serious. I'm proposing selling Helston park to the Welsh assembly, and I'm redirecting Wetherspoons over to Hayle by the water front with the supermarket. I'm also going to suggest that at County Hall we all take sandwiches and stop spending so much money on food. Cllr Haycock is going to stop drinking so much bottled water and is going to save the world.
What on earth is the matter with you, you can not pretend to be someone else on here . i agree with telstar1962 and hope someone from the Packet or even Cllr Wallis will read it.
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: No, you all don't seem to understand, I really am Cllr Andrew Wallis, the local Cornwall Cllr. I just used the name Helston John so I could leave some rotten comments but now I'm going to be serious. I'm proposing selling Helston park to the Welsh assembly, and I'm redirecting Wetherspoons over to Hayle by the water front with the supermarket. I'm also going to suggest that at County Hall we all take sandwiches and stop spending so much money on food. Cllr Haycock is going to stop drinking so much bottled water and is going to save the world.[/p][/quote]What on earth is the matter with you, you can not pretend to be someone else on here . i agree with telstar1962 and hope someone from the Packet or even Cllr Wallis will read it. meerkats
  • Score: 3

9:08am Sun 24 Aug 14

meerkats says...

Helston John wrote:
meerkats wrote:
Helston John wrote:
No, you all don't seem to understand, I really am Cllr Andrew Wallis, the local Cornwall Cllr. I just used the name Helston John so I could leave some rotten comments but now I'm going to be serious. I'm proposing selling Helston park to the Welsh assembly, and I'm redirecting Wetherspoons over to Hayle by the water front with the supermarket. I'm also going to suggest that at County Hall we all take sandwiches and stop spending so much money on food. Cllr Haycock is going to stop drinking so much bottled water and is going to save the world.
What on earth is the matter with you, you can not pretend to be someone else on here . i agree with telstar1962 and hope someone from the Packet or even Cllr Wallis will read it.
Why would Cllr Wallis read it, I am Cllr Wallis and I wrote it.
GZM doesn't post under her real name, no member of the public would remain as polite as GZM does all the time when people are rude to her on here but she'd have to be polite if she wasnt a member of the public.
And I think you and telstar are not very nice saying you hope someone from the packet reads these comments. They won't anyway unless some interfering person reports them because the packet staff are on holiday. I know this because I contacted them to give them some news about my Cllrs work. I am going to hold Cllr surgeries in the new Wetherspoons.
You think im not nice well you certainly arent. !!
[quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meerkats[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Helston John[/bold] wrote: No, you all don't seem to understand, I really am Cllr Andrew Wallis, the local Cornwall Cllr. I just used the name Helston John so I could leave some rotten comments but now I'm going to be serious. I'm proposing selling Helston park to the Welsh assembly, and I'm redirecting Wetherspoons over to Hayle by the water front with the supermarket. I'm also going to suggest that at County Hall we all take sandwiches and stop spending so much money on food. Cllr Haycock is going to stop drinking so much bottled water and is going to save the world.[/p][/quote]What on earth is the matter with you, you can not pretend to be someone else on here . i agree with telstar1962 and hope someone from the Packet or even Cllr Wallis will read it.[/p][/quote]Why would Cllr Wallis read it, I am Cllr Wallis and I wrote it. GZM doesn't post under her real name, no member of the public would remain as polite as GZM does all the time when people are rude to her on here but she'd have to be polite if she wasnt a member of the public. And I think you and telstar are not very nice saying you hope someone from the packet reads these comments. They won't anyway unless some interfering person reports them because the packet staff are on holiday. I know this because I contacted them to give them some news about my Cllrs work. I am going to hold Cllr surgeries in the new Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]You think im not nice well you certainly arent. !! meerkats
  • Score: 1

10:29am Sun 24 Aug 14

Deemon80 says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Deemon80 wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion attracts a lot of holiday makers. Helston, sadly does not.
Very true, but there is the holiday park at the end of the road, which personally I wish they would do away with and build affordable housing there instead. The camping field there to me resembles a **** field, when my daughter comes home she very often stays at the holiday park. I would have thought a lot of users of the park would visit Helston town centre though because it has a wider range of shops than Mullion. I know my daughter does, it's the first place she goes. There are some bed and breakfast places in Helston too.
I can only comment on eating and drinking establishments which over the years have had a steady decline of tourists using these services. The chinese restaurant on wendron street has closed, pubs stop serving food early and henly's as far as I am aware is still closed two nights a week and we are supposed to be in peak season. This is partly due to the amount of restaurants etc now in porthleven and scattered across the lizard so need to dine in helston anymore. Jd opening will affect all types of businesses and not just in Helston. They sell cheap fish and chips and breakfasts and hold curry nights etc. Holiday makers will make the extra journey to save money.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Deemon80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion attracts a lot of holiday makers. Helston, sadly does not.[/p][/quote]Very true, but there is the holiday park at the end of the road, which personally I wish they would do away with and build affordable housing there instead. The camping field there to me resembles a **** field, when my daughter comes home she very often stays at the holiday park. I would have thought a lot of users of the park would visit Helston town centre though because it has a wider range of shops than Mullion. I know my daughter does, it's the first place she goes. There are some bed and breakfast places in Helston too.[/p][/quote]I can only comment on eating and drinking establishments which over the years have had a steady decline of tourists using these services. The chinese restaurant on wendron street has closed, pubs stop serving food early and henly's as far as I am aware is still closed two nights a week and we are supposed to be in peak season. This is partly due to the amount of restaurants etc now in porthleven and scattered across the lizard so need to dine in helston anymore. Jd opening will affect all types of businesses and not just in Helston. They sell cheap fish and chips and breakfasts and hold curry nights etc. Holiday makers will make the extra journey to save money. Deemon80
  • Score: 1

10:52am Sun 24 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

''Public urged to support Helston Wetherspoon by owner of closing business''

HEADLINE RE: Publicity Seeking Helston John

PLEASE IGNORE HIS COMMENTS ( he has taken too many happy pills, allegedly )
''Public urged to support Helston Wetherspoon by owner of closing business'' HEADLINE RE: Publicity Seeking Helston John PLEASE IGNORE HIS COMMENTS ( he has taken too many happy pills, allegedly ) telstar1962
  • Score: 2

11:30am Sun 24 Aug 14

Deemon80 says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Deemon80 wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion attracts a lot of holiday makers. Helston, sadly does not.
Very true, but there is the holiday park at the end of the road, which personally I wish they would do away with and build affordable housing there instead. The camping field there to me resembles a **** field, when my daughter comes home she very often stays at the holiday park. I would have thought a lot of users of the park would visit Helston town centre though because it has a wider range of shops than Mullion. I know my daughter does, it's the first place she goes. There are some bed and breakfast places in Helston too.
I can only comment on eating and drinking establishments which over the years have had a steady decline of tourists using these services. The chinese restaurant on wendron street has closed, pubs stop serving food early and henly's as far as I am aware is still closed two nights a week and we are supposed to be in peak season. This is partly due to the amount of restaurants etc now in porthleven and scattered across the lizard so need to dine in helston anymore. Jd opening will affect all types of businesses and not just in Helston. They sell cheap fish and chips and breakfasts and hold curry nights etc. Holiday makers will make the extra journey to save money.
[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Deemon80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion attracts a lot of holiday makers. Helston, sadly does not.[/p][/quote]Very true, but there is the holiday park at the end of the road, which personally I wish they would do away with and build affordable housing there instead. The camping field there to me resembles a **** field, when my daughter comes home she very often stays at the holiday park. I would have thought a lot of users of the park would visit Helston town centre though because it has a wider range of shops than Mullion. I know my daughter does, it's the first place she goes. There are some bed and breakfast places in Helston too.[/p][/quote]I can only comment on eating and drinking establishments which over the years have had a steady decline of tourists using these services. The chinese restaurant on wendron street has closed, pubs stop serving food early and henly's as far as I am aware is still closed two nights a week and we are supposed to be in peak season. This is partly due to the amount of restaurants etc now in porthleven and scattered across the lizard so need to dine in helston anymore. Jd opening will affect all types of businesses and not just in Helston. They sell cheap fish and chips and breakfasts and hold curry nights etc. Holiday makers will make the extra journey to save money. Deemon80
  • Score: 0

5:39pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Gill Z Martin says...

Deemon80 wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Deemon80 wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion attracts a lot of holiday makers. Helston, sadly does not.
Very true, but there is the holiday park at the end of the road, which personally I wish they would do away with and build affordable housing there instead. The camping field there to me resembles a **** field, when my daughter comes home she very often stays at the holiday park. I would have thought a lot of users of the park would visit Helston town centre though because it has a wider range of shops than Mullion. I know my daughter does, it's the first place she goes. There are some bed and breakfast places in Helston too.
I can only comment on eating and drinking establishments which over the years have had a steady decline of tourists using these services. The chinese restaurant on wendron street has closed, pubs stop serving food early and henly's as far as I am aware is still closed two nights a week and we are supposed to be in peak season. This is partly due to the amount of restaurants etc now in porthleven and scattered across the lizard so need to dine in helston anymore. Jd opening will affect all types of businesses and not just in Helston. They sell cheap fish and chips and breakfasts and hold curry nights etc. Holiday makers will make the extra journey to save money.
I understand that which you say, bearing in mind what tourists may save in Wetherspoons they may spend on petrol getting there, and parking, depending on the time of day. I also agree if I was looking for a specialised restaurant I would sooner head for Porthleven as in my opinion the view from the pubs and restaurants are nicer, not that I personally can afford restaurants, and mainly head for the takeaways or pubs when in Porthleven if it is too wet for picnics. I do not know what the answer is, perhaps we just have too many food outlets in general and those that offer value and good service will survive. You say the pubs have stopped serving food early, but perhaps that is the problem, Wetherspoons serves food all day. Only time will tell I suppose.
[quote][p][bold]Deemon80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Deemon80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion attracts a lot of holiday makers. Helston, sadly does not.[/p][/quote]Very true, but there is the holiday park at the end of the road, which personally I wish they would do away with and build affordable housing there instead. The camping field there to me resembles a **** field, when my daughter comes home she very often stays at the holiday park. I would have thought a lot of users of the park would visit Helston town centre though because it has a wider range of shops than Mullion. I know my daughter does, it's the first place she goes. There are some bed and breakfast places in Helston too.[/p][/quote]I can only comment on eating and drinking establishments which over the years have had a steady decline of tourists using these services. The chinese restaurant on wendron street has closed, pubs stop serving food early and henly's as far as I am aware is still closed two nights a week and we are supposed to be in peak season. This is partly due to the amount of restaurants etc now in porthleven and scattered across the lizard so need to dine in helston anymore. Jd opening will affect all types of businesses and not just in Helston. They sell cheap fish and chips and breakfasts and hold curry nights etc. Holiday makers will make the extra journey to save money.[/p][/quote]I understand that which you say, bearing in mind what tourists may save in Wetherspoons they may spend on petrol getting there, and parking, depending on the time of day. I also agree if I was looking for a specialised restaurant I would sooner head for Porthleven as in my opinion the view from the pubs and restaurants are nicer, not that I personally can afford restaurants, and mainly head for the takeaways or pubs when in Porthleven if it is too wet for picnics. I do not know what the answer is, perhaps we just have too many food outlets in general and those that offer value and good service will survive. You say the pubs have stopped serving food early, but perhaps that is the problem, Wetherspoons serves food all day. Only time will tell I suppose. Gill Z Martin
  • Score: 1

12:12pm Mon 25 Aug 14

telstar1962 says...

Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.
Yes we did have two butchers, banks, book shop, shoe shop, paper shop, Hattons three shops which are now one Spar, goodies, the treasure box etc but the closing of some of these shops were not a result of the out of town supermarkets as some of them closed before the supermarkets existed, and some closed due to personal reasons.
We are not solely a holiday village and we sustain a large post office, spar, mini market, chemist, Andertons, deli, Biddicks electrical shop etc as everyday shops. Free cash machine availability in the post office, youth centre, junior and senior school and a full time Drs surgery, Mullion most certainly does not just cater for holiday makers. Helston and Mullion both have plenty to offer. One just has to accept that this is the 21st century and things have changed, with many people shopping and banking etc online.
Mullion is the OAP Capital in the South-West and caters accordingly.

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[quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.[/p][/quote]Yes we did have two butchers, banks, book shop, shoe shop, paper shop, Hattons three shops which are now one Spar, goodies, the treasure box etc but the closing of some of these shops were not a result of the out of town supermarkets as some of them closed before the supermarkets existed, and some closed due to personal reasons. We are not solely a holiday village and we sustain a large post office, spar, mini market, chemist, Andertons, deli, Biddicks electrical shop etc as everyday shops. Free cash machine availability in the post office, youth centre, junior and senior school and a full time Drs surgery, Mullion most certainly does not just cater for holiday makers. Helston and Mullion both have plenty to offer. One just has to accept that this is the 21st century and things have changed, with many people shopping and banking etc online.[/p][/quote]Mullion is the OAP Capital in the South-West and caters accordingly. Blue Rinse Brigade Rule telstar1962
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Gill Z Martin says...

telstar1962 wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Eyespy wrote:
Gill Z Martin wrote:
Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.
Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.
Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.
Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.
Yes we did have two butchers, banks, book shop, shoe shop, paper shop, Hattons three shops which are now one Spar, goodies, the treasure box etc but the closing of some of these shops were not a result of the out of town supermarkets as some of them closed before the supermarkets existed, and some closed due to personal reasons.
We are not solely a holiday village and we sustain a large post office, spar, mini market, chemist, Andertons, deli, Biddicks electrical shop etc as everyday shops. Free cash machine availability in the post office, youth centre, junior and senior school and a full time Drs surgery, Mullion most certainly does not just cater for holiday makers. Helston and Mullion both have plenty to offer. One just has to accept that this is the 21st century and things have changed, with many people shopping and banking etc online.
Mullion is the OAP Capital in the South-West and caters accordingly.

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Presumably you have not spent much time in Mullion then and seen all the young parents with children! We certainly have enough clubs for different age groups of children and nursery facilities etc.
[quote][p][bold]telstar1962[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eyespy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gill Z Martin[/bold] wrote: Having read and listened to opinions on here and in town, I do with hindsight, think that Wetherspoons would probably be better situated on the outskirts of town somewhere. This would provide easy access with parking, for Helston and the surrounding areas, for whom those that wish to patronise it, additionally it would give some reasonable competition to the May Tree. Leaving the town centre to concentrate on independents and allowing reasonable competition between the existing cafes and pubs. This would prevent the likelyhood of job losses or more closed smaller venues throughout the town. It would also provide a longer time period with which to try to attract another larger retail business.[/p][/quote]Move it as far away as possible from Helston. Possibly on the moon. Who would of thought that Helston would have so many coffee shops that competition would be healthy for the town. Wetherspoons will ultimately crush other coffee shops and leave pubs in Helston with less business given time. Costa probably be just fine. A major company that can afford to lose a few quid and lower business due to the opening of Wetherspoons. I certainly won't be celebrating the opening of Wetherspoons.[/p][/quote]Mullion is very small compared with Helston and that manages to sustain two pubs, both offering very different things, and Trenance coffee shop which does cooked meals as well, plus the Polurrian Hotel and Mullion Cove hotel, both open to the public for food and drinks, deli coffee shop, fish and chip shop, and another takeaway shop, a curry place and a bakers. I would think Helston coffee shops will still survive even if Wetherspoons goes ahead, different people want different things and prefer different environments.[/p][/quote]Mullion is a holiday village for the holiday makers. Mullion like Helston as suffered dramatically from out of town supermarkets and rent rises over the many years. What do the villages ultimately offer that the towns don't anymore. Fish and chip shops, pubs /coffee shops etc.. and a Deli shop that is hardly ever open that Helston doesn't already have in abundance in the town centre. Mullion has lost alot of the key shops that made it unique. A decent butchers, a proper bakery and two banks in the past. Like all villages now, Mullion just caters for the influx of tourists. It seems very clear to me that both Mullion and Helston might as well be the same. Cloned.[/p][/quote]Yes we did have two butchers, banks, book shop, shoe shop, paper shop, Hattons three shops which are now one Spar, goodies, the treasure box etc but the closing of some of these shops were not a result of the out of town supermarkets as some of them closed before the supermarkets existed, and some closed due to personal reasons. We are not solely a holiday village and we sustain a large post office, spar, mini market, chemist, Andertons, deli, Biddicks electrical shop etc as everyday shops. Free cash machine availability in the post office, youth centre, junior and senior school and a full time Drs surgery, Mullion most certainly does not just cater for holiday makers. Helston and Mullion both have plenty to offer. One just has to accept that this is the 21st century and things have changed, with many people shopping and banking etc online.[/p][/quote]Mullion is the OAP Capital in the South-West and caters accordingly. Blue Rinse Brigade Rule[/p][/quote]Presumably you have not spent much time in Mullion then and seen all the young parents with children! We certainly have enough clubs for different age groups of children and nursery facilities etc. Gill Z Martin
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