Councillors vote down proposal to fund Stadium for Cornwall

Cornwall councillors have sent a clear message to its ruling cabinet that no taxpayers cash should be pumped into the Stadium For Cornwall project.

At a testy meeting on Tuesday, councillors voted 55 to 46 against, with a large number of Conservative councillors voting down a proposal for capital funds to be used to help pay for the development.

A large number of councillors also abstained from the vote.

The council's cabinet will make the final decision.

Cornwall Council has repeatedly said that their position was that the proposed stadium would be built without taxpayer's cash.

In March a statement said: "The Council has not changed its position from the previous Council decision that no public funding will be used for the stadium."

The request for public money to fund the project was considered as an emergency item at a council meeting next Tuesday.

It came after Cornwall council said they received a letter from Cornwall Community Stadium Ltd stating that that despite their best efforts, the stadium project was unable to proceed as a “private sector only” led and funded initiative. Adding that it required financial support from the council, if it was to proceed.

The proposal on the table was that “the Cabinet be invited to consider whether it would be appropriate for the Council to take the lead in delivering a stadium for Cornwall”.

The meeting had to be called after the council decided that if it received a request for financial support, whether direct or indirect, including by way of guarantees or provision of infrastructure all councillors should have a say.

This was due to the “widely perceived lack of transparency surrounding this subject”.

The vote has been greeted with anger by sports fans online, with many calling the decision stupid and a loss for sport in the county.

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2:57pm Tue 15 May 12

Zella says...

It will be a great shame if Cornwall do not secure funding for a stadium. However, how much did Cornwall Council contribute to the much needed CHSW project? Why don't the sixteen thousand or so people that signed a petition for the stadium try fund raising some of their own money. Maybe some tax payers may have been more supportive of the stadium if Cornwall Council had not announced the proposal to stop funding public toilets etc.
It will be a great shame if Cornwall do not secure funding for a stadium. However, how much did Cornwall Council contribute to the much needed CHSW project? Why don't the sixteen thousand or so people that signed a petition for the stadium try fund raising some of their own money. Maybe some tax payers may have been more supportive of the stadium if Cornwall Council had not announced the proposal to stop funding public toilets etc. Zella
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3:31pm Tue 15 May 12

JayPalmer says...

Dicky Evans has just released a statement regarding the council's decision. After reading it, I think this is the end of professional rugby in the Duchy....

The people of Cornwall are going to lose any chance of a venue that they can be proud of, a venue that will host not only the Cornish Pirates but future rugby/sports stars of the future. the decision was very insular and very damaging to the people of cornwall.. I for one won't vote again in the local elections... what is the point...
Dicky Evans has just released a statement regarding the council's decision. After reading it, I think this is the end of professional rugby in the Duchy.... The people of Cornwall are going to lose any chance of a venue that they can be proud of, a venue that will host not only the Cornish Pirates but future rugby/sports stars of the future. the decision was very insular and very damaging to the people of cornwall.. I for one won't vote again in the local elections... what is the point... JayPalmer
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4:55pm Tue 15 May 12

cornishbird says...

How those councillors could say no god only knows. They are quite incapable of seeing the economic benefits that such a project would bring to Cornwall. They claim that funding such a project will take money away from other front line services such as providing toilets, local parks and cleaning the steps of council buildings. Apart from this not being true because the funding would come from another pot of money dedicated to such projects, can’t they see that the revenue that such a project will bring will allow them to not only clean, but polish council steps on a regular basis if they so wish!! Just as we’re about to receive another massive hand out from the European Union to help our ailing economy (again) shouldn’t we be taking some pride in ourselves and trying to do more about boosting it instead?!!!!

Some councillors also seem to be blinded by the fact that they think that it’s only going to be a stadium for the Pirates. This is quite plainly incorrect as they should well know if they had done their job and read the details on what the stadium project entails. It will eventually be a sports community with health facilities, conference centre, hotel, and an entertainment venue to name a few. It will be a place that people aspire to be part of and inspire people to develop skills and talents that we grow here in Cornwall.

Why, also do they dispute this project so vehemently when they can hand out millions of pounds to other projects? The Tate, a £10 million plan to build a park and ride car park at St Erth, the Eden project, Heartlands to name but a few. I’m not for one minute suggesting that these projects shouldn’t receive such money, but how is their cause different to this one???? Cornwall’s coat of arms sits proudly on the council chambers wall stating ‘One and All’. I’m afraid some councillors have missed this point and are not looking after the greater good of ‘all’ of Cornwall.

As a proud Cornish girl born and bred I would love to sign this rant off with ‘Kernow Bys Vyken’ but if this the future of Cornwall with people like this in charge, god help us!
How those councillors could say no god only knows. They are quite incapable of seeing the economic benefits that such a project would bring to Cornwall. They claim that funding such a project will take money away from other front line services such as providing toilets, local parks and cleaning the steps of council buildings. Apart from this not being true because the funding would come from another pot of money dedicated to such projects, can’t they see that the revenue that such a project will bring will allow them to not only clean, but polish council steps on a regular basis if they so wish!! Just as we’re about to receive another massive hand out from the European Union to help our ailing economy (again) shouldn’t we be taking some pride in ourselves and trying to do more about boosting it instead?!!!! Some councillors also seem to be blinded by the fact that they think that it’s only going to be a stadium for the Pirates. This is quite plainly incorrect as they should well know if they had done their job and read the details on what the stadium project entails. It will eventually be a sports community with health facilities, conference centre, hotel, and an entertainment venue to name a few. It will be a place that people aspire to be part of and inspire people to develop skills and talents that we grow here in Cornwall. Why, also do they dispute this project so vehemently when they can hand out millions of pounds to other projects? The Tate, a £10 million plan to build a park and ride car park at St Erth, the Eden project, Heartlands to name but a few. I’m not for one minute suggesting that these projects shouldn’t receive such money, but how is their cause different to this one???? Cornwall’s coat of arms sits proudly on the council chambers wall stating ‘One and All’. I’m afraid some councillors have missed this point and are not looking after the greater good of ‘all’ of Cornwall. As a proud Cornish girl born and bred I would love to sign this rant off with ‘Kernow Bys Vyken’ but if this the future of Cornwall with people like this in charge, god help us! cornishbird
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7:07pm Tue 15 May 12

trelawny says...

If a stadium is ever built it should be in the centre of Cornwall (ie Bodmin area), all people seem to worry about is pleasing the Pirates wher they expect to get 10,000 crowds beggars belief.
If a stadium is ever built it should be in the centre of Cornwall (ie Bodmin area), all people seem to worry about is pleasing the Pirates wher they expect to get 10,000 crowds beggars belief. trelawny
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7:09pm Tue 15 May 12

trelawny says...

If a stadium is ever built it should be in the centre of Cornwall (ie Bodmin area), all people seem to worry about is pleasing the Pirates wher they expect to get 10,000 crowds beggars belief.
If a stadium is ever built it should be in the centre of Cornwall (ie Bodmin area), all people seem to worry about is pleasing the Pirates wher they expect to get 10,000 crowds beggars belief. trelawny
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9:10pm Tue 15 May 12

zangfu says...

I wonder how many of those who voted "in our interests" were actually Cornish? That would be an interesting stat to be made public....

And if sport in our county is so unimportant to the powers that be, why are we allowing the Olympic torch to be flown into Culdrose and paraded through the Duchy from Land's End?

Hypocritical beyond belief! The torch procession should have started in Plymouth because Cornwall is now officially a professional sport-free zone.....
I wonder how many of those who voted "in our interests" were actually Cornish? That would be an interesting stat to be made public.... And if sport in our county is so unimportant to the powers that be, why are we allowing the Olympic torch to be flown into Culdrose and paraded through the Duchy from Land's End? Hypocritical beyond belief! The torch procession should have started in Plymouth because Cornwall is now officially a professional sport-free zone..... zangfu
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10:03am Wed 16 May 12

Zella says...

Just to clarify, (particularly to the person that sends me anonymous cryptic emails) I personally think the council should find the necessary additional funding for the stadium to go ahead. It would be nice if they acheived something productive for the long term future for Cornwall.

I addtionally believe that a list of councillors that were present at the meeting should be published alongside which way they voted. After all, if they stand by their beliefs, which they should, then they should not have a problem with their local constituents being made aware. With the elections due next year, it obviously would be of interest to know what ones local councillors policies/views are, regarding important project decisions that affect the county as a whole. This clearly would be in accordance with an openess and transparency policy.
Just to clarify, (particularly to the person that sends me anonymous cryptic emails) I personally think the council should find the necessary additional funding for the stadium to go ahead. It would be nice if they acheived something productive for the long term future for Cornwall. I addtionally believe that a list of councillors that were present at the meeting should be published alongside which way they voted. After all, if they stand by their beliefs, which they should, then they should not have a problem with their local constituents being made aware. With the elections due next year, it obviously would be of interest to know what ones local councillors policies/views are, regarding important project decisions that affect the county as a whole. This clearly would be in accordance with an openess and transparency policy. Zella
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6:07pm Wed 16 May 12

road_hogg says...

Why should the tax payer fork out to pay for something only required for the 'Pirates'?
The football team wouldn't require even a third of that, and how do they justify that it would be used for pop concerts when you've got the likes of Eden Sessions, the Pavillions and the HFC?
They said no public money should be used, if the Pirates want it, they can jolly well pay for it themselves!
Why should the tax payer fork out to pay for something only required for the 'Pirates'? The football team wouldn't require even a third of that, and how do they justify that it would be used for pop concerts when you've got the likes of Eden Sessions, the Pavillions and the HFC? They said no public money should be used, if the Pirates want it, they can jolly well pay for it themselves! road_hogg
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9:03pm Wed 16 May 12

Zella says...

Looking at things from a different perspective, tax payers money was invested in Eden but not everyone uses Eden. Tax payers money is invested in parks, libraries, schools etc, however, not everyone uses all or any of those facilities. In my opinion, that is what living in a democratic society is all about, along with tolerance of the needs of others.
Looking at things from a different perspective, tax payers money was invested in Eden but not everyone uses Eden. Tax payers money is invested in parks, libraries, schools etc, however, not everyone uses all or any of those facilities. In my opinion, that is what living in a democratic society is all about, along with tolerance of the needs of others. Zella
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7:14am Thu 17 May 12

themaid says...

If there is a pot of money available then maybe some money could be given but not all. This will not benefit everyone and I think the biggest problem most people have is that this is to be built in Truro - yet again more investment in Truro which seems to get everything. I have to agree with Zella though that not everyone uses everything the council gives money to having visiting the Heartlands project I have to say what a wast of money I honestly couldnt see where the money had been spent. Let every household have the details of the stadium and a vote on it and see what the people want.
If there is a pot of money available then maybe some money could be given but not all. This will not benefit everyone and I think the biggest problem most people have is that this is to be built in Truro - yet again more investment in Truro which seems to get everything. I have to agree with Zella though that not everyone uses everything the council gives money to having visiting the Heartlands project I have to say what a wast of money I honestly couldnt see where the money had been spent. Let every household have the details of the stadium and a vote on it and see what the people want. themaid
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4:39pm Fri 18 May 12

DCI Jen says...

I agree with themaid, let every household have a vote on the stadium, and i agree with Zella on democracy. Trouble is would every household get a vote, they didn't for the unitary authority. Best don't let Cory collect the voting papers either.
I agree with themaid, let every household have a vote on the stadium, and i agree with Zella on democracy. Trouble is would every household get a vote, they didn't for the unitary authority. Best don't let Cory collect the voting papers either. DCI Jen
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8:48pm Sun 20 May 12

steve eva says...

i am happy to admit i was one of those who voted yes to part funding of the stadium as i believe it would be good for Cornwall.
The Conservatives had a whip on for refusal which shows their lack of support to Cornwall but i must add that 11 of them ignored the whip.
The one who baffled me the most was Cllr Nolan the ex mayor of Truro who says on one hand that the park and ride east of Truro should have been turned down because of localisum as 250 people signed a petition, yet over 16500 people signed a petition for a stadium but he voted against the stadium.
Can someone possibably explain that to me.
The Stadium could be used for all sports and would be a Community Stadium and yes it would help the Pirates gain promotion if they won the right to do so. I am proud to say i am a supporter of the pirates and anything else that is cornish.
I hope people have long memories and remember those who chose the whip over their County maybe thats why i choose to be an Independent.
i am happy to admit i was one of those who voted yes to part funding of the stadium as i believe it would be good for Cornwall. The Conservatives had a whip on for refusal which shows their lack of support to Cornwall but i must add that 11 of them ignored the whip. The one who baffled me the most was Cllr Nolan the ex mayor of Truro who says on one hand that the park and ride east of Truro should have been turned down because of localisum as 250 people signed a petition, yet over 16500 people signed a petition for a stadium but he voted against the stadium. Can someone possibably explain that to me. The Stadium could be used for all sports and would be a Community Stadium and yes it would help the Pirates gain promotion if they won the right to do so. I am proud to say i am a supporter of the pirates and anything else that is cornish. I hope people have long memories and remember those who chose the whip over their County maybe thats why i choose to be an Independent. steve eva
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