Opposition to Falmouth Wharves plan ahead of vital vote

Protesters at Falmouth Wharves last summer

Protesters at Falmouth Wharves last summer

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THE proposed redevelopment of Falmouth Wharves continues to attract opposition ahead of a decision expected next month.

Almost 100 people have now commented on The Fairhaven Shipping Company’s plans for the area, with the majority of them objecting to the proposals which include a 14-bedroom hotel and 44 flats.

Also included in the scheme are 20 light industrial/workshop units, gallery space and a restaurant/cafe. The wharf area around the buildings would be open space with pontoons for small craft and a water taxi stop.

The latest business person to speak out against the plans is Alice Marston, proprietor of Miss Peapod’s Kitchen Cafe on Jubilee Wharf, Penryn. She said: “We cannot allow another unimaginative development to snaffle up the last deep water, all tides access wharf in the county.

“In this time of economic uncertainty, why would you wish to extinguish the potential for future skilled employment?

“Introducing residences to the wharf will permanently prevent the wharf from fulfilling its potential to grow with the future growth of Falmouth port.”

Cornwall Council’s local member for the area, Grenville Chappel, said he is keeping a close eye on developments and is expecting the application to be put before February’s meeting of the council’s strategic planning committee.

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10:05pm Thu 24 Jan 13

SmokingHotCopy says...

Save Our Wharf my foot! It's not like in it's present state you can enjoy it down there anyway.

Personally, I think it's an excellent idea and the sooner the development starts - the better.

Not only will it bring much needed jobs to the local area, during the construction phase local residents will undoubtedly be trained in new construction skills giving them just perhaps a trade for life.

I say bring it on!

What would you rather have? A bunch of scruffy run down buildings made of dog ugly very tired looking concrete or something on this location which is an asset to the area, to the local community?

What would you rather have, a wharf which no one at present can enjoy or a venue which ultimately brings a lot of enjoyment to other people?

The plan seems to me to be very responsible thinking, in fact, I can't think of one good reason why this development should not be given the go ahead and the sooner the better.

I know what I'd like to see down there. Something which is far more attractive than what's there at the moment - no question about it.

Sooner or later Cornwall has to get out of this old quaint way of thinking stopping all development in it's tracks. We are after all, God forbid, living in the 21st century. We've had enough of Cornwall burying it's head in the sand determined to stick to the old fashioned way of doing things. This is a university town now and this kind of development is much very much needed in my opinion.

What better use, what better ideas do some of these individuals who are against the idea, what else do they have in mind for this location?

Don't tell me in all seriousness you'd rather it stay as it currently is! Really? What benefit is this?

What you need to do is to envision the reality of this plan in action. Rather than just jumping up and down saying no just for the sake of it, imagine a day when you can walk down here to enjoy a stroll by the waters edge or to get aboard a water taxi to enjoy the delights of the Penryn River or to enjoy a lovely meal in the restaurant sited at this location.

Cast your mind back to the early days of the Port Pendennis development. Similarly back then there were lots of people dead against the idea yet now this whole area is a wonderful asset to the town much enjoyed by locals and visitors alike.

Same with Challenger Quay at the top of the High Street. Once a derelict quay of no use to anyone, now a beautiful development of homes right on the waterfront - beautiful!

We've seriously got to stop this NIMBY attitude, it's not going to get Cornwall anywhere. The whole county needs major sprucing up lest it slide into obscurity. And no, I'm not talking about allowing just about any development willy nilly but responsible development such as these plans, yes I'm all for it.

The town doesn't just belong to the older generation, it belongs to younger folk too, it belongs to everyone equally.

We can't keep on and on and on saying no, no, no to everything all the time. Sooner or later you have to accept life goes on, it's about new ideas, new ways of doing things, being in love with the new - this is what regenerates areas, not always trying to hold onto the past.

This development has my 100% full support.
Save Our Wharf my foot! It's not like in it's present state you can enjoy it down there anyway. Personally, I think it's an excellent idea and the sooner the development starts - the better. Not only will it bring much needed jobs to the local area, during the construction phase local residents will undoubtedly be trained in new construction skills giving them just perhaps a trade for life. I say bring it on! What would you rather have? A bunch of scruffy run down buildings made of dog ugly very tired looking concrete or something on this location which is an asset to the area, to the local community? What would you rather have, a wharf which no one at present can enjoy or a venue which ultimately brings a lot of enjoyment to other people? The plan seems to me to be very responsible thinking, in fact, I can't think of one good reason why this development should not be given the go ahead and the sooner the better. I know what I'd like to see down there. Something which is far more attractive than what's there at the moment - no question about it. Sooner or later Cornwall has to get out of this old quaint way of thinking stopping all development in it's tracks. We are after all, God forbid, living in the 21st century. We've had enough of Cornwall burying it's head in the sand determined to stick to the old fashioned way of doing things. This is a university town now and this kind of development is much very much needed in my opinion. What better use, what better ideas do some of these individuals who are against the idea, what else do they have in mind for this location? Don't tell me in all seriousness you'd rather it stay as it currently is! Really? What benefit is this? What you need to do is to envision the reality of this plan in action. Rather than just jumping up and down saying no just for the sake of it, imagine a day when you can walk down here to enjoy a stroll by the waters edge or to get aboard a water taxi to enjoy the delights of the Penryn River or to enjoy a lovely meal in the restaurant sited at this location. Cast your mind back to the early days of the Port Pendennis development. Similarly back then there were lots of people dead against the idea yet now this whole area is a wonderful asset to the town much enjoyed by locals and visitors alike. Same with Challenger Quay at the top of the High Street. Once a derelict quay of no use to anyone, now a beautiful development of homes right on the waterfront - beautiful! We've seriously got to stop this NIMBY attitude, it's not going to get Cornwall anywhere. The whole county needs major sprucing up lest it slide into obscurity. And no, I'm not talking about allowing just about any development willy nilly but responsible development such as these plans, yes I'm all for it. The town doesn't just belong to the older generation, it belongs to younger folk too, it belongs to everyone equally. We can't keep on and on and on saying no, no, no to everything all the time. Sooner or later you have to accept life goes on, it's about new ideas, new ways of doing things, being in love with the new - this is what regenerates areas, not always trying to hold onto the past. This development has my 100% full support. SmokingHotCopy
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8:53am Fri 25 Jan 13

ucsweb says...

If you think this developement is going to include training local people to build and that it will increase local jobs, you have a very slim grip on reality.
As always it will be built by a large national company that will bring workers in. And another part of Falmouth's access to the waters edge will be lost.
It is not a matter of being NIMBY it is a matter of having the wrong thing in the wrong place.
If you think this developement is going to include training local people to build and that it will increase local jobs, you have a very slim grip on reality. As always it will be built by a large national company that will bring workers in. And another part of Falmouth's access to the waters edge will be lost. It is not a matter of being NIMBY it is a matter of having the wrong thing in the wrong place. ucsweb
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2:42pm Fri 25 Jan 13

SmokingHotCopy says...

"And another part of Falmouth's access to the waters edge will be lost.

It is not a matter of being NIMBY it is a matter of having the wrong thing in the wrong place."

Are you being serious? Another part of Falmouth's access to the waters edge will be lost? Really? Oh come on!

How many people use this wharf to access the waters edge?

There is no access to the waters edge - period at this location. It's private property for starters.

And it's not like Falmouth is exactly bereft of places to gain access to the waters edge anyway. There are miles upon miles of paths and access points to the water. The way you describe it, you make it sound like this development is going to strip away one of the last remaining access points to the water. The argument at best is laughable in the extreme.

So you think the benefits of having access to the waters edge by means of a bunch of dirty old buildings on a filthy dirty old quay is more beneficial to the local community than having this development in place?

Okay, I challenge you, put it to me, what exactly are the benefits of not allowing this development to go ahead vs it going ahead?

Wrong 'thing' in the wrong place eh? Well where else would you put it, on top of The Beacon perhaps?

I mean where else do you think this development should be given the go ahead? Your argument against this plan, just face it, it's fatally flawed.

After you, sock those benefits at me, I'm all ears...
"And another part of Falmouth's access to the waters edge will be lost. It is not a matter of being NIMBY it is a matter of having the wrong thing in the wrong place." Are you being serious? Another part of Falmouth's access to the waters edge will be lost? Really? Oh come on! How many people use this wharf to access the waters edge? There is no access to the waters edge - period at this location. It's private property for starters. And it's not like Falmouth is exactly bereft of places to gain access to the waters edge anyway. There are miles upon miles of paths and access points to the water. The way you describe it, you make it sound like this development is going to strip away one of the last remaining access points to the water. The argument at best is laughable in the extreme. So you think the benefits of having access to the waters edge by means of a bunch of dirty old buildings on a filthy dirty old quay is more beneficial to the local community than having this development in place? Okay, I challenge you, put it to me, what exactly are the benefits of not allowing this development to go ahead vs it going ahead? Wrong 'thing' in the wrong place eh? Well where else would you put it, on top of The Beacon perhaps? I mean where else do you think this development should be given the go ahead? Your argument against this plan, just face it, it's fatally flawed. After you, sock those benefits at me, I'm all ears... SmokingHotCopy
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9:26am Sat 26 Jan 13

molesworth says...

Totally with you SmokingHotCopy. I only hope they include a gentlemen's outfitters in the plans for the retail units. There's not one west of Bristol.
Totally with you SmokingHotCopy. I only hope they include a gentlemen's outfitters in the plans for the retail units. There's not one west of Bristol. molesworth
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4:59pm Sat 26 Jan 13

SmokingHotCopy says...

I'm still waiting to see from 'ucsweb' what the specific benefits are to not develop this site.

As I stated above, this is on private ground, there is no access at present to the waters edge from this location, the buildings which are currently there are an absolute eyesore - so what precisely are the benefits in keeping this site in it's current condition?

Let me make this easy for you...

There are none. Indeed anyone would be hard pushed to come up with any benefits at all to keep this site as is.

On the other hand...

The benefits of developing this site in the proposed manner, the benefits of doing so are numerous.

Hundreds of people would directly benefit and gain enormous pleasure from the facilities at this location not to mention money coming in to the local economy.

The only real sensible option is to develop this site and the sooner this is accomplished the better it will be for Falmouth as a whole. It's this kind of development we should be actively encouraging not setting up campaigns just for the sake of it to overturn said plans.

What's weird is that despite all of these campaigners saying they don't want this here, not one so far has put forward here in these comments any meaningful reason for the site not to be developed.

Could it be that when they really wrack their brains trying to come up with reasons for it not to go ahead, they cannot in fact actually come up with one good reason why the site shouldn't be developed?

As I asked above, let's see the specific benefits why this site should not be developed vs being developed in the manner described.

After you...
I'm still waiting to see from 'ucsweb' what the specific benefits are to not develop this site. As I stated above, this is on private ground, there is no access at present to the waters edge from this location, the buildings which are currently there are an absolute eyesore - so what precisely are the benefits in keeping this site in it's current condition? Let me make this easy for you... There are none. Indeed anyone would be hard pushed to come up with any benefits at all to keep this site as is. On the other hand... The benefits of developing this site in the proposed manner, the benefits of doing so are numerous. Hundreds of people would directly benefit and gain enormous pleasure from the facilities at this location not to mention money coming in to the local economy. The only real sensible option is to develop this site and the sooner this is accomplished the better it will be for Falmouth as a whole. It's this kind of development we should be actively encouraging not setting up campaigns just for the sake of it to overturn said plans. What's weird is that despite all of these campaigners saying they don't want this here, not one so far has put forward here in these comments any meaningful reason for the site not to be developed. Could it be that when they really wrack their brains trying to come up with reasons for it not to go ahead, they cannot in fact actually come up with one good reason why the site shouldn't be developed? As I asked above, let's see the specific benefits why this site should not be developed vs being developed in the manner described. After you... SmokingHotCopy
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5:47pm Mon 28 Jan 13

molesworth says...

Personally I'd demolish every building along commercial road and start again. They are all a disgrace and that includes the 'prize winning' eco building by the bridge which is an awful eyesore. (I don't care how bl**dy carbon friendly it is.)
Anything that can improve the area gets my vote!
Personally I'd demolish every building along commercial road and start again. They are all a disgrace and that includes the 'prize winning' eco building by the bridge which is an awful eyesore. (I don't care how bl**dy carbon friendly it is.) Anything that can improve the area gets my vote! molesworth
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