Helston council defers town centre management apprentice decision

A decision on whether to hire apprentices to help staff the Helston town centre management team has been deferred by the town council.

A decision will not now be made until a meeting in December.

The apprentices, aged 18 to 24, will gain experience over 12 months.

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8:26am Mon 3 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin says...

I don't think Helston Town Council should spend anymore of the Sainsbury/Tesco money on anything other than direct things to benefit the town centre to offset the detrimental effects on the town centre caused by the supermarkets. Maybe some of the bigger companies could think about hiring apprentices. If the proposal is not for the apprentices to be funded from the section 106 money and the money is to come from another source, then maybe toilets should take priority.
I don't think Helston Town Council should spend anymore of the Sainsbury/Tesco money on anything other than direct things to benefit the town centre to offset the detrimental effects on the town centre caused by the supermarkets. Maybe some of the bigger companies could think about hiring apprentices. If the proposal is not for the apprentices to be funded from the section 106 money and the money is to come from another source, then maybe toilets should take priority. Gill Zella Martin
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6:17pm Mon 3 Dec 12

meerkats says...

Although it would be a good idea to help young into employment, i still think that the money should be spent on things that would be more beneficial to the town.
Although it would be a good idea to help young into employment, i still think that the money should be spent on things that would be more beneficial to the town. meerkats
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10:21am Tue 4 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

When I first heard this I thought it was a joke. Surly this is not what the supermarket money was intended for. When I read of the plans other town nearby have for spending there money I am so disappointed with the Helston council. This could push the bill for town centre management to other a grand a week. Has the plot got lost somewhere.
When I first heard this I thought it was a joke. Surly this is not what the supermarket money was intended for. When I read of the plans other town nearby have for spending there money I am so disappointed with the Helston council. This could push the bill for town centre management to other a grand a week. Has the plot got lost somewhere. ronedgcumbe
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1:59pm Tue 4 Dec 12

meerkats says...

The supermarket money was intended to be for the town,and not to help the tcm team. Perhaps someone from that dept could take a walk around the town, and take a good look at what the money should be spent on. Maybe ,listen to what people think it should be spent on too ,i doubt very much many would think it should go into hiring apprentices.
The supermarket money was intended to be for the town,and not to help the tcm team. Perhaps someone from that dept could take a walk around the town, and take a good look at what the money should be spent on. Maybe ,listen to what people think it should be spent on too ,i doubt very much many would think it should go into hiring apprentices. meerkats
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2:29pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin says...

I did not think money gifted from the supermarkets could be spent in this way, surely it is outside the criteria specified for use.
I did not think money gifted from the supermarkets could be spent in this way, surely it is outside the criteria specified for use. Gill Zella Martin
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2:41pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin says...

In five years time what is Helston going to have to show for this money other than hanging baskets, a logo, possibly some market stalls and of course some flags. Bearing in mind if the money runs out storage expenses for market stalls will still have to be found if stalls are purchased. I will be interested to see how footfall increases in the town when the branding is launched.
In five years time what is Helston going to have to show for this money other than hanging baskets, a logo, possibly some market stalls and of course some flags. Bearing in mind if the money runs out storage expenses for market stalls will still have to be found if stalls are purchased. I will be interested to see how footfall increases in the town when the branding is launched. Gill Zella Martin
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2:46pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin says...

Incidentally having spent all morning in Porthleven I only had to pay £1.00 to park which would have covered me all day. Consequently I spent more time in the shops than I probably otherwise would have.
Incidentally having spent all morning in Porthleven I only had to pay £1.00 to park which would have covered me all day. Consequently I spent more time in the shops than I probably otherwise would have. Gill Zella Martin
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3:10pm Tue 4 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

I have checked with a Helston councillor who claims this is in the remit for spending this money though personally I think it goes against the spirit of what it was intended.
What amazed me is why a council with so little power intends to do with 3 apprentices. At least there is an election in may and the opportunity to show the council what people think of nonsense like this.
I have checked with a Helston councillor who claims this is in the remit for spending this money though personally I think it goes against the spirit of what it was intended. What amazed me is why a council with so little power intends to do with 3 apprentices. At least there is an election in may and the opportunity to show the council what people think of nonsense like this. ronedgcumbe
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3:28pm Tue 4 Dec 12

meerkats says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
I have checked with a Helston councillor who claims this is in the remit for spending this money though personally I think it goes against the spirit of what it was intended.
What amazed me is why a council with so little power intends to do with 3 apprentices. At least there is an election in may and the opportunity to show the council what people think of nonsense like this.
I agree with your comments ,hopefully people will use their votes in the forthcoming elections and give the council a good shake up. At this rate the supermarkets will be asking for their money back !!
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: I have checked with a Helston councillor who claims this is in the remit for spending this money though personally I think it goes against the spirit of what it was intended. What amazed me is why a council with so little power intends to do with 3 apprentices. At least there is an election in may and the opportunity to show the council what people think of nonsense like this.[/p][/quote]I agree with your comments ,hopefully people will use their votes in the forthcoming elections and give the council a good shake up. At this rate the supermarkets will be asking for their money back !! meerkats
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4:22pm Tue 4 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

I agree meerkats, it is a lack of ideas, ambition or complacency by some councillors that is the problem. Hopefully a good clearout will happen next may.
I agree meerkats, it is a lack of ideas, ambition or complacency by some councillors that is the problem. Hopefully a good clearout will happen next may. ronedgcumbe
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5:30pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin says...

ronedgecumbe, please tell me you are not serious, 3 apprentices ! ! ! This is not a profit making company we are talking about, it is a town council running a relatively small town. Who was responsible for the idea? How about Sainsbury's and Tesco's take on apprentices.
ronedgecumbe, please tell me you are not serious, 3 apprentices ! ! ! This is not a profit making company we are talking about, it is a town council running a relatively small town. Who was responsible for the idea? How about Sainsbury's and Tesco's take on apprentices. Gill Zella Martin
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5:42pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin says...

Perhaps I am missing something here, ok nice idea to help young people gain experience to assist them maybe to gain employment, but who will be giving them this experience. Could they not gain experience from some Councillors anyway for free? Or will they be attached to the TC management team? Personally I would thought any 18 to 24 year old locals could probably teach the town management team something.
Perhaps I am missing something here, ok nice idea to help young people gain experience to assist them maybe to gain employment, but who will be giving them this experience. Could they not gain experience from some Councillors anyway for free? Or will they be attached to the TC management team? Personally I would thought any 18 to 24 year old locals could probably teach the town management team something. Gill Zella Martin
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6:55pm Tue 4 Dec 12

meerkats says...

Gill Zella Martin wrote:
Perhaps I am missing something here, ok nice idea to help young people gain experience to assist them maybe to gain employment, but who will be giving them this experience. Could they not gain experience from some Councillors anyway for free? Or will they be attached to the TC management team? Personally I would thought any 18 to 24 year old locals could probably teach the town management team something.
They probably want to take on 18 to 24 yr olds ,simply because they dont have any ideas of their own and as you said they will probably teach the town mamagement team something,
[quote][p][bold]Gill Zella Martin[/bold] wrote: Perhaps I am missing something here, ok nice idea to help young people gain experience to assist them maybe to gain employment, but who will be giving them this experience. Could they not gain experience from some Councillors anyway for free? Or will they be attached to the TC management team? Personally I would thought any 18 to 24 year old locals could probably teach the town management team something.[/p][/quote]They probably want to take on 18 to 24 yr olds ,simply because they dont have any ideas of their own and as you said they will probably teach the town mamagement team something, meerkats
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6:56pm Tue 4 Dec 12

meerkats says...

management , not mamagement
management , not mamagement meerkats
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10:11am Wed 5 Dec 12

Three Word Wonder says...

£400,000 each from Tesco and Sainsbury. The money is earmarked to mitigate the impact on the town centre from the two supermarkets. Part of the money is set aside for the employment of a Town Centre Manager. This leaves about £250,000 for ‘public realm’ work.

What is 'public realm' work, and has the £250,000 been allocated to it yet ?

£800,000 ?

why were these two supermarkets even allowed to give this money, so called mitigatING their effect on the Town?

planning permission money ??

It stinks




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£400,000 each from Tesco and Sainsbury. The money is earmarked to mitigate the impact on the town centre from the two supermarkets. Part of the money is set aside for the employment of a Town Centre Manager. This leaves about £250,000 for ‘public realm’ work. What is 'public realm' work, and has the £250,000 been allocated to it yet ? £800,000 ? why were these two supermarkets even allowed to give this money, so called mitigatING their effect on the Town? planning permission money ?? It stinks .. Three Word Wonder
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11:26am Wed 5 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin says...

Perhaps Helston town council should do what Penryn are doing, they are asking their local residents for ideas for which to spend their windfall money on.
Perhaps Helston town council should do what Penryn are doing, they are asking their local residents for ideas for which to spend their windfall money on. Gill Zella Martin
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12:21pm Wed 5 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

Apparently this deffered meeting is being held in private which seems rather strange.
To answer Gill Martins question, I believe this to be the town managers idea.
Apparently this deffered meeting is being held in private which seems rather strange. To answer Gill Martins question, I believe this to be the town managers idea. ronedgcumbe
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1:40pm Wed 5 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin says...

Thank you ronedgecumbe for the information. Why doesn't that surprise me. If apprentices are hired then I do not think they should be chosen by the town manager.
Thank you ronedgecumbe for the information. Why doesn't that surprise me. If apprentices are hired then I do not think they should be chosen by the town manager. Gill Zella Martin
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4:25pm Wed 5 Dec 12

meerkats says...

ronedgcumbe wrote:
Apparently this deffered meeting is being held in private which seems rather strange.
To answer Gill Martins question, I believe this to be the town managers idea.
Why in private ,very strange, as for the money ,thought it was for the town ,and as Gill has already said the council should ask the residents for ideas on what to spend it on. What does the tc manager do so much that he needs help with anyway ?
[quote][p][bold]ronedgcumbe[/bold] wrote: Apparently this deffered meeting is being held in private which seems rather strange. To answer Gill Martins question, I believe this to be the town managers idea.[/p][/quote]Why in private ,very strange, as for the money ,thought it was for the town ,and as Gill has already said the council should ask the residents for ideas on what to spend it on. What does the tc manager do so much that he needs help with anyway ? meerkats
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8:12am Thu 6 Dec 12

helztonboy says...

would apprentices of that age not be mostly funded by external means?
would apprentices of that age not be mostly funded by external means? helztonboy
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8:59am Thu 6 Dec 12

Gill Zella Martin says...

As far as I am aware the government pays firms to take on apprentices but I doubt that would be the case with a town council, possibly because there would be very little chance of them all being offered a job at the end. I realize not all apprentices that are taken on are guaranteed a job afterwards but many are offered a job with the firms that take them on. However, I could of course be completely wrong, but have to ask, if Helston council are not proposing to use section 106 money for this then why the need for a secret meeting? Also, if the money was coming from an outside source then I doubt they would even be deferring the decision.
As far as I am aware the government pays firms to take on apprentices but I doubt that would be the case with a town council, possibly because there would be very little chance of them all being offered a job at the end. I realize not all apprentices that are taken on are guaranteed a job afterwards but many are offered a job with the firms that take them on. However, I could of course be completely wrong, but have to ask, if Helston council are not proposing to use section 106 money for this then why the need for a secret meeting? Also, if the money was coming from an outside source then I doubt they would even be deferring the decision. Gill Zella Martin
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10:19am Thu 6 Dec 12

ronedgcumbe says...

I am sure you are correct Gill Martin you would need to show the positions to be viable. You would never receive central funding for such a silly idea.
I am sure you are correct Gill Martin you would need to show the positions to be viable. You would never receive central funding for such a silly idea. ronedgcumbe
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